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If that is true, than that wont be a Mac mini at all. It will be called something else.
Anyway, we will see, if a "new headless desktop computer" gets updated October this year or not.

I would say, it won't be updated, but that is just me.
Maybe next year, when the "pro" machine gets released as Apple promised.

There is no sense in releasing two Pro machines at the same time. Mac Mini Pro in October and the Mac Pro next year, simple.
 
The SE is too niche now because the mass market wants large screens. Sure, there are SE diehards, but not enough to make the cost of the project worth the effort. Apple has all the data and the fact it’s not here confirms it isn’t needed.
That's funnily enough pretty much the same that was said back in 2016 when the SE has been released.

And guess what? This assessment turned out to be wrong. The SE flew out of the shelves, massively surpassed Apple's own estimations, and made for something between a fifth and a quarter of all sold iPhones in 2016. Which would mean about 50 million SEs have been sold just in that year.

For comparison: according to estimations (as there are no offical numbers since Apple is apparently too embarrassed), the Apple Watch had sold about 30 million devices by late 2017. In total. Over its whole lifetime.

But the former is an unprofitable niche, while the latter is not?

Have the sales of the SE dropped by then? Yes, almost for sure. But for the simple reason that there never was an updated version of it.

And yet, Apple keeps updating a device that barely registers in their annual earnings report, but buries one that has proven to meet a massive demand?

Tell me again how this makes sense.
 
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Why these trolls just come in here and drop a line like “no innovation” and then disappear and wait until next year to drop the exact same line haha
 
As an engineer, don't you find the A12 Bionic chip an engineering marvel? The Home Court app that was demo'd displayed an ability to track biomechanics that I felt was incredible. And this is an via app on a smartphone, not a purposed device.

We are seeing incremental, but very specific, improvements with smartphones with regard to biometrics and biomechanical capabilities. Face tracking to fingerprint, face, and voice recognition, and now body tracking. Even as a novice developer I'm excited.
Here's the thing about chips; they require power. Apple will never put bigger batteries in iPhones of a certain size (hmm that's why they made their iPhones bigger, I get it) At a certain point phones will be big enough and there's no room for more battery for a faster chip; it's all limits.
 
For me this keynote was a letdown. Nothing really substantially better, but at a higher price. Even XR is approaching 1000 Eur. 64 GB XS MAX is 1200 Eur. No thank you. I should probably switch to a 3 year cycle. It's not a case of having or not having money, but just simple common sense is screaming at me to not be an idiot.
 
The SE is dead. If you need a new budget phone the iPhone 7 (or 8 if you want a step-up) are your best options.

iPhone 7 is an awesome phone, solid and reliable, and with a base price of $449 it's an excellent buy. I'm going to continue to use mine until the next iPhone launch in a couple years, then I'll pick up a new iPhone Xs at the reduced price.
 
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Mac Mini “could” be more expensive..... the value of the base model at the moment is terrible, it’s almost criminal with that 500GB hard drive and 4GB Ram. It runs horrible - I had one then had to move up to the 2014 2.6ghz and put in an SSD myself.

So to now say price increase, what they planning - putting an m3 in, removing ports and doubling the price?!!
 
I'm pretty sure there won't be two Pro machines, rather one device in the middle.

As he said. The Pro machine will have a basic (starter) version for, I don't know 1000 (or rather 1500) dollars and than from there the price goes up to the sky.
 
Right. Steve Jobs didn't listen to shareholders because, who cares right?

If anyone didn't listen to customers, it was Jobs. His entire philosophy was rooted rather specifically in giving customers what he thought they needed rather than what they wanted, very much like Henry Ford.
There's a flaw in that miss-used quote; if you are talking to a man who makes computers' "dont you want a faster compuer? " hell yes. Henry Ford never made hourses. The quote is BS.
 
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Isn't it always the case that Apple doesn't make these types of announcements alongside iPhones and Apple Watch? Not sure, feels like it so this is not a surprise to me at least. If they would've added all those announcements into the keynote, the presentation would've lasted 5 hours.
 
Tim always seems to say that Apple is deeply devoted to all of Apple's products, but he only seems to be focused on the iPhone and Watch (which are great products). But please stop lying to us customers. Stop getting your direction from shared holders, and do what Steve Jobs did and get direction from customers.
Shareholders seem to hate Mac Mini, Mac Pro, AirPods 2, AirPort, Airpower, MacBook Air - and almost everything with Air in it to the Max
 
For me this keynote was a letdown. Nothing really substantially better, but at a higher price. Even XR is approaching 1000 Eur. 64 GB XS MAX is 1200 Eur. No thank you. I should probably switch to a 3 year cycle. It's not a case of having or not having money, but just simple common sense is screaming at me to not be an idiot.
there is nothing bad about a 3 year cycle. I'm actually starting my 4th year now. Not because of the money, but the updates weren't worth upgrading yet. And iOS 12 even made everything a lot faster, so another reason not to upgrade.
 
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there is nothing bad about a 3 year cycle. I'm actually starting my 4th year now. Not because of the money, but the updates weren't worth upgrading yet. And iOS 12 even made everything a lot faster, so another reason not to upgrade.
That’s my assessment as well.
 
There is no sense in releasing two Pro machines at the same time. Mac Mini Pro in October and the Mac Pro next year, simple.

It makes a lot of sense if you can imagine a new Mac Pro starting at, let's say, $9,999 and the new Mac (Pro) Mini starting at about $2,999. I'm afraid our longed and beloved Mac Mini is dead as we know it. Apple wants its entry level desktops with a screen attached. Sad future for the less wealthy. But you know Apple...
 
That event really made me look forward to the new Mac Mini.

I'm expecting 64 GB / 256 GB / 1 TB storage options.

It also comes without GPU-out ports, you'll have to wirelessly mirror your iPad Pro as a screen.

#progress
 
But at some point the internals change so much that it would actually be a total redesign even if it looks the same. I understand many of the SE fans are upset because they loved their little phones, but Apple doesn't think with emotions. They think as a business. Can a business case be made? I'm going to out out on a limb (but not that far) and say the answer is no. They ran the numbers and found a much better business case can be made by making the iPhone 7 their introductory budget iPhone.

An expensive small screened phone just wouldn't survive in today's premium market. There were many people that bought the SE because they liked the size, but I promise many more bought it on price. Throwing huge amounts of development costs into a phone that people expect to be priced cheap is a good way to start losing money on a product line.

I think it is time for people to behave and think without emotion by valuing iPhone cost, benefits by comparing it with Android mobiles, and make calls! I am sure Apple may get emotional if people do it that way!
 
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