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I can just see some of you folks at a car show: " What? If Mercedes isn't going with repulsive collision avoidance, I'm going back to horses!!"
 
Timothy...

...I appreciate your thoughts and the intelligent way you expressed them. But I must disagree with some of your points.

"Everyone Else

The rest of the world does not pay much attention, at all, to the hype of the computer world. Apple could have released 3 ghz towers today, and outside of the geeks, no one would have paid attention. The success of the iMac (and Apple) is closely tied to catching the attention of Everyone Else. And, that was the reason for the 'hype.'"

No. Apple themselves said, "Beyond the rumor sites. Way beyond." That message was aimed at us, the "geeks", as you say.

"Sure, 6 months seems like an eternity to us, but in hindsight, and to the rest of the world, Apple has accomplished great things."

6 months *IS* an eternity in Computerland, my friend. And for a company that has experienced shrinking market share (down to around 3+% from 5+% two years ago), they need to do "amazing things", truly amazing, not the nonsense they released at this Expo.
 
CES

So, is Steve speaking at CES tomorrow?

If he is, we should expect a rehash of what was said today. Nothing major new.

I think they rescheduled the keynote because of the Time article/cover.
 
Maybe this well help you analogize product placement

Top End Pentuim 4 == Corvette
-stunning numbers, not the most expensive, but made of plastic, and for the masses

Dual Top End Athlon == Lotus
-very fast, but spends alot of time in the shop, and doesn't have quite the history or following that Corvette does

Dual 800 G4 == Porsche
-it's fast, but is doesn't have twelve cylinders, prancing horses, or NASCAR acceptance. It quietly does its thing, and once you buy one, you'll never switch back.

New iMac == BMW M3
-Its got some oomph, but is is the entry model speed demon. Dosen't have all the options available, but suitable for many. Has all the design and styling ques just right..

Old iMac == New Beetle
-its cute, does what is advertised, and your sister's pedicure gal got one because it had AOL IM, and matched her new carpets

Your average Dell == Ford Aerostar
-I suppose you could put a big block motor and a six speed in one of these if you wanted to, and haul every peripheral you own in the back. Whatever you do, everybody else in the Target parking lot will be driving the same thing, well, 95% of everybody else

I too was waiting for a tower, but am not disappointed. I still use a 9600. Its got three monitors, 4 SCSI busses, and PCI 100bT, USB, and Firewire, and it runs OSX just fine. Do I want more speed? Yes. Am I upset not to see a G5 enabled hovercraft today? No. Will I be upset if I buy a $3,500 dollar machine and can't get 4 years use out of it? LIVID.
 
ok to me

If you create a hype (not apple, just those rumor sites) people get dissappointed.
You expect to much.

Look at now ibook, imac, iphoto
great products, nice prices (iphoto is even free!!!)

i'm also dissappointed (in myself) i couldn't wait no longer and bought an ibook in november...
damn!
 
Mischief wrote...

"I can just see some of you folks at a car show: " What? If Mercedes isn't going with repulsive collision avoidance, I'm going back to horses!!"

LOL! What a ridiculous analogy. So the Windows/x86 platform is now horses, and the Mac is a Mercedes, eh? Oh man. That's toooo funny. Here I am hearing people say that the Mac was a BMW and the PC was a Volkswagen. It's worse than I thought!
 
Re: Argh

Originally posted by Stike
Some things are rather annoying.
I hoped for my Kodak DC240 DigiCam to work with iPhoto, because it didn´t work with ImageCapture.
It sucked.

Error message: "Could not find /users/.../pictures/iPhoto Library/2002/07/01" or something like it.
Great Software.

The new iMac is cool, however as I saw the German Prices it made me feel sick. Converted to US$ the price for the Superdrive iMac in Germany is $ 2280!
(source: german applestore)
How can this difference be explained?

And I too need a tower, in the meantime I´ve 2 Harddisks floating around, and a new iMac can´t take them...
Click to expand...

Tell your government to stop overprinting money and taxing computer imports.

Rocketman
 
Awesome iMac

The new iMac is perfect, i dunno why u all r so dissapointed. The imac is very cheap and powerful!!! its perfect for us average-users.

u Pro that NEED a tower, wait until March for the g5, or get a dual 800 NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Steve held something back

The keynote was much shorter than scheduled. They must have waited until the last minute on something and it was either not ready or they decided they needed something for Tokyo.

They couldn't poke palm in the eye when they were speaking or the PC version of iPod would be better intoduced in Tokyo. Not to say those products even exist, but who knows.

I watched the keynote on techtv. Those PC geeks were giving the ol' been there, done that routine....losers.
 
CRAP!

I sold my Quicksilver machines at home ready to buy a new tower! ****! Well, I will have to cope with my PB and Quicksilver at work.

As anybody noticed that the imac is designed so that a bigger monitor could easily be added!

 
i agree with Crusty Bob. what are you guys putting into those pci slots. the last pci card that i ever bought was for a 7300 so i could get usb access to it. but as far as i am concerned pci slots are worthless and need to become extinct like the floppy drive. i am a professional designer just as some of you are and i am an educator and the only pci card that i ever interact with is on a mac with a media 100 station... but i would never need to buy one of those, not with final cut pro out. and and and i do not see why the media 100 board could not eventually be replaced by firewire.
 
Well I didn't like the iMac to start with, but I've warmed to it now - in fact I think it's great. My only gripe is the fact that the display only goes to 1024 x 768, surely 1280 x 1024 would have been a more realistic maximum? A 64mb 4 x AGP graphics card would have made it a little more furure proof too.

No new towers though. Bad move. Maybe Mr Jobs has something up his sleeve for near future and didn't want to wizz on the iMac's bonfire, but a speed boost (at the least) better come soon otherwise they will look poor next to 2.2Ghz P4's - velocity engine or not. A 133 bus, DDRAM, and 64mb GeForce3 graphics as standard wouln't go amiss either.

C'mon Steve! You know you want to!
 
Pro that wants an iMac.

with final cut 3 and all, I don't need a tower. If I want more storage, I'll get a FW RAID. Physical size and afordability mean more to me. It's still a bigger screen than my iMac Rev D (CRT=15" translates to LCD=13").
 
To everyone complaining about the hype:

Hello, McFly...

Apple USED you. Plain and simple. The purpose of hype is to raise awareness, and by getting your panties in a wad over the last week you helped Apple accomplish this. They suckered you. Plain and simple.

Apple isn't here to cater to your inflated egos. The company does not revolve around you. They are a business, who above all else, needed to upgrade it's four year old consumer line. If you ever wondered why they are losing market share, you could look to the outdated iMac line. That all changed today.

Open your eyes and grow up.
 
The new LCD iMac is stunning. I've had my doubts about some of Apple's recent product design, but this has entirely renewed my faith.

They've somehow captured the spirit and personality of the original iMac, but in a totally new and up-to-date design.

It's incredible value for money - and I think iDVD is going to be the killer app now that it has well and truly reached the consumer market.

Great news also about OS X as default - no iPhoto for OS 9!
 
What the hells that PCI slot for? huh?

Ever heard of hooking up two montiors at once!?
How 'bout adding a sound card?
Video card for Final Cut?
Who the hell'd ever want to do that?

Guess not Zim and Crusty Bob....
 
Are you Kidding me think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an incredible marketing strategy.... Apple has come out with a new iMac THAT ROCKS If they came out with a new tower (g5, g4 >1Ghz) it would have eaten all the fire of the new iMac for lunch...
Right now they are simply trying to sell iMacs to people with PCz and give people who have held off on buying a new mac because they where over priced or under-powered for the price a steal. And all the hype wasn't trying to attract the mac faithful to see a new super computer that most of them couldn't afford (I know I cant afford a new g4 or what would have been the g5) but to attract heathens to the mac market place with a totally unconventional looking, and pretty substantially powered machine. Apple needed to capture the worlds attention and it did that with its unbecoming hype so all the non mac drones can see the new imac on the news and maybe even the keynote and think "gee pa it'd like to get me one of those"......
Remember last year when the media criticized Steve for " preaching to the converted" well this is a ploy to attract new customers. I'm sure there will be a MW for us containing a G5 and a very sweet machine to go with it but I mean come on with todays economy do you think that apple need to produce a super machine for more then they want to pay for a car, sure we would have scraped together the money but for for the most part, to use a cliché that should never be uttered again, the sales would have been "underwhelming".
way to think Apple.
Anybody else ready to scream by tech tv's coverage?
 
It's pretty cool...

When I first saw the iMac in the wee hours of the night last night, I wasn't moved.

But now that I've seen it in action, looked and thought about the specs...I love this machine.

I think my wife will be getting one. She's a musician, and this will sit perfectly next to her keyboard, and really compliment the "style" of her studio.

I love this thing...and I initially had my doubts. But, I'm now converted.

Imagine a row of 10 of these lined up in an Apple Store window at varying heights. A stunning display.

BTW...for those of you who HATE the design...you can always just pull the screen down lower, completely hiding the computer, and there you have it. An LCD screen all on it's own!
 
Re: Mischief wrote...

Originally posted by Kethoticus
"I can just see some of you folks at a car show: " What? If Mercedes isn't going with repulsive collision avoidance, I'm going back to horses!!"

LOL! What a ridiculous analogy. So the Windows/x86 platform is now horses, and the Mac is a Mercedes, eh? Oh man. That's toooo funny. Here I am hearing people say that the Mac was a BMW and the PC was a Volkswagen. It's worse than I thought!
Click to expand...

You ever used a Mac ********?
 
Call me crazy but...

I know it's un-precedented but...

The focus had to be on the new iMac, replacing the oldest item in Apple inventory. And I totally agree with those that say there should be no distraction from the release of what is, no-one can seriously argue against this, essentially a revolutionary ('scuse pun) new computer. I'd buy one but... being a 'power' user I need larger screens and cards and such for high-end graphics work (etc. etc.)

Does anyone think it is possible that seriously speed-bumped towers might be annouced tomorrow in "the POWER of X"?

Keeps the consumer, Time-cover sensation stealing headlines separate from the existing market we NEED more power MAC nuts such as I, for the professionals, out of the lime lite. Give Phil S his moment in the sun. Wait and see...
 
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