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It's surreal that some people already know that Face ID will be slow. The phone hasn't even hit the markets yet.

There's nothing surreal about it

1. We already know this will be a slow and more deliberate two-step process. There is no avoiding that when you need to hold the camera up to your face to ID it. If Apple had created a tech where the phone camera could scan you are some extreme angle, like the moment the camera leaves your pocket, then it may be as fast as touchID. But from what we have seen, that is not the case.

2. We have already seen real-life demonstrations and failures. Even on-stage. Even if we brush that aside, we have seen how it behaves in the journalist youtube videos. Even without any false positives or negatives, you can tell it will be a slower more deliberate process compared to TouchID.

If you have not used a FaceID scanner before on a phone, then you probably just won't understand why it won't be fun to use every time you want to unlock your phone.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying it will be horrible. We are probably talking a few milliseconds and a few false negatives here and there. But TouchID is a better tech until someone can make that great leap forward in ID'ing a face at extreme angles. And no one does that currently.
 
Another quote from David Pierce for Wired..

Face ID, at least in the brief demos I got, worked one of two ways: amazingly fast or not at all. It won't work if your phone's flat on a table—you'll have to pick up and look at your phone every time you want to unlock it. I suspect a lot of people will just go back to having numerical passcodes.
 
I will not be a bit surprised when we see TouchID return in 2018 embedded in the screen. Seems FaceID alone was a solution to the TouchID issue which is what Apple wanted to have for this release, but could not make it work.

I think this is definitely gonna happen and is one of the main reasons I'll be waiting until the X2 or whatever it's gonna be called.
 
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It's well known that Apple is investigating the implementation of Touch ID IN the screen... so... yeah we'll see sooner or later.
 
Agreed. I LOVE having a physical home button.
I don't even care about the button too much, after trying out the sensor on the 7 where the button used to be, I actually really think it's cool. If they stuck that sensor on the back of the phone I'd consider the X.

But having Face ID and ONLY Face ID, **** that.
 
Really hope it doesn't spell the end for Touch ID completely. Removing it, is to the iPhone what removing Magsafe was to the MacBook Pros, one of the best features to actually come to the device.
 
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That black tab is annoying. Can you imagine watching TV with one side of the screen having a black tab? How will movie watching work? Will it block out a part of the movie?
Jeez....the tab is not there when watching videos, movies, tv. Unless you zoom in. A lack bar is on left and right of screen giving you a full rectangular 16:9 view.
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The video in all its glory.

Third times a charm.
Worked fine once he wiped the flop sweat from face. My Touch ID doesn't work reliably with wet fingers either. Who knew?
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Sometimes my finger I'd takes a second touch. I am betting it works quite well.

You can bet a few butts puckered when it did not work on stage.
Yeah Craig's bonus dropped by 2 mil.
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FROM $999
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Perhaps it just rejects Craig’s face and wasn’t a software mistake. :D
He didn't have that mask on, so first phone did not recognize him.
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Lots of complaints coming from people that haven't actually used it. People said Touch ID would suck and would take WAAAAAAY longer than a passcode and was garbage..... until they actually used it. People complained about AirPods falling out easily until they actually shipped and were shown to stay in very well and without issue.

I guarantee we will see all the competitors adding similar hardware to Apples on their phones to enhance their facial recognition.
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That's exactly the case. Just like Touch ID, you have to enter your passcode to enable it the first time after restart.
Guy gave me $100,000 the other day. Boy was I pissed, the bills were not new and all small denominations. The nerve of people.
 
I'm confused. Brag that they won't give privacy away to the Feds then use FaceID and remove passcode.

Is the passcode feature totally gone? If so thais is WAY less secure.
 
I'm confused. Brag that they won't give privacy away to the Feds then use FaceID and remove passcode.

Is the passcode feature totally gone? If so thais is WAY less secure.
Passcode has not been removed. It's the main security feature of the phone.

Touch ID and Face ID are a convenience. Both keep all their data on a secure enclave of the chip that is not accessible, or transmitable. The finger print and face data are locked in phone. The enclave part of chip sends unlock code, but not the data. This has been this way for years.

You don't have to use either. In fact for maximum security turn off Touch ID or Face ID and use multiple alpha numeric passcode ten digits or more.
 
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People will panic/overreact with the stage failure (looked like one failed attempt, not three).

I see it as being a winner as more examples of it working pop up online.
 
Is the Face lock optional? Could one ultimately not enroll the Face and use just the passcode to unlock?
Of course that is the most secure way. You can also choose not to use passcode at all. These have always been options.
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Is it true that face ID in the dark will have to turn the LED light on to illuminate your face while trying to unlock your device?
That's what the infrared light is for.
 
Bit scary, as a kid my brother just to do that with a torch, used to frighten the life out of me.
:eek: Oh Jeez, Deany, I almost freaked out for a moment there. I was just about to think your brother was a bit more scary than what you're talking about. A "torch" means an entirely different thing in America. Fortunately, I remembered (and it's also visible) that you are in Wales. :p
 
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:eek: Oh Jeez, Deany, I almost freaked out for a moment there. I was just about to think your brother was a bit more scary than what you're talking about. A "torch" means an entirely different thing in America. Fortunately, I remembered (and it's also visible) that you are in Wales. :p

Hi Grumps
Yikes! I updated post.
thanks
deany
 
I can only get touch ID to work 30% of the time and it takes 4/5 tries. So face ID can't be worse than that for me
I hear ya. It's like that for me on my Samsung Touch ID. It worked almost perfectly for me for weeks on my S8+ and then never again was it quite as good. It still works so I know it's not defective. It's just the same results I've always had with Touch ID until my iPhone 7 Plus and my HTC 10.

Iris scanning hurts my eyes, which is why I don't use it. But when I did use it, it was really convenient just to hold the phone up and have it unlock on the S8. On the Note 7, I had to scan and swipe and didn't care for that. I'm torn on all of this and between the iPhone 8 Plus and the iPhone X.
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Hi Grumps
Yikes! I updated post.
thanks
deany
Oh no I didn't mean you needed to change it, sorry! I love our regional differences! I thought it was funny! I think there are as many British forum members here as Americans, so it is hardly fair to expect you to change your expressions to American versions.
 
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