Aevan, define legacy - is it USBA, HDMI, or SD Card. Last I checked all of these are dominant. How many projectors in meeting rooms have USBC? How many of your colleagues have USBC thumb drives. Get down to earth please.
Ok, it's just a word we started using here. I did not mean 'obsolete' by legacy. Replace 'legacy' with 'previous generation' or 'pre-USB-C' or whatever you like.
I'm down to earth, thank you. Typical Macrumors discussion style: if you disagree with me, then it must mean I'm delusional or something.
What have you been smoking
- I have had professional series laptops form Dell in the last 20 years, and heck, there is every port that I need. So USBC came along, lets make all other ports legacy, it doesn't matter that 99% of the people have not even heard of USBC.
I don't smoke. Again, very nice way to talk.
As I said before, if you value having all these ports on your computer - these Dell laptops are a better choice for you. You're just choosing a life of frustration by using a Mac. It's like NTFS and HSF+ (or upcoming APFS) - 99% people don't use Apple's file systems, and whenever someone brings you a flash drive or a removable drive - it won't work. So why bother yourself with something like this? Get a Dell. It's a good, capable computer. Not being cynical here.
A professional tool? So lets try to convince a business owner that all of a sudden all his meeting rooms VGA or HDMI projectors are legacy, and he needs to buy cables/dongles. Multiply by 2 meeting rooms per floor, 13 floors, and then 9 buildings. And that is in head quarters only. Professional tool?
Hey, I know a lot of offices here that still have HP Laser printers with LPT ports and keyboards with PS/2 ports. You can still use them on modern computers with adapters, but by your logic - laptops should come with LPT and PS/2 ports.
No, please don't answer that, perhaps you'd actually like that. But let me tell you that I would agree with you if Apple just cut the ability to use VGA and HDMI projectors completely. I do need them from time to time. But I CAN use them. I just pull out this little adapter - seriously - with one, single, small adapter I have every port I used to have on my previous MBP, minus the SD card reader. And there are adapters with SD card slots too, so there's that.
Apple has always been stubborn and arrogant. Steve Jobs would probably tell you that you're using your projectors wrong, if he were alive. But the thing is, Apple is not crazy. They are not going to remove the ability to use HDMI and pretend everyone has AirPlay capabilities or something. They are just saying: here's the core device, it's has this minimalistic beauty. In those times when you need HDMI or USB-A, use the adapter.
Now, I UNDERSTAND this is not the same as having them on board. The question here is whether you see any value in having this design. I guess you don't. You're probably reading this and thinking: what value could there possibly be in a decision to REMOVE functionality. And when I tell you "because the future can't come fast enough and if we don't brute force sexy new ideas we won't live to see all the truly amazing things in our lifetimes" - you'll probably laugh at me, and I can't really blame you.
So I'm telling you - mark my words - you're just heading for more pain. Get a PC. They will never be deliberately cutting edge and will always be more practical. In a few years, Apple will remove all ports or decide that we don't really need keyboards or something. This is Apple. They are kinda like a few kids trying to imagine Star Trek technology and fake it with what we've got now.
If you're looking for a computer that will work best with what 99% of people use and have - it has ALWAYS been more convenient to get a PC. Apple calls this "Think Different" - but, most of the time, it's just inconvenience. I remember how many times I had to explain the people in my studio that I cannot copy a large file on their flash drive without formatting it to something they won't be able to use. Or explain to our IT guy that no, I cannot plug in a LAN cable in my expensive Retina MacBook Pro, even though his 5 year old Lenovo has that option. Or explain why I can't just copy a file to my iPhone's storage without iTunes and a 3rd party app.
This is, and always has been - Apple. They make futuristic works of art. And if you say "computers shouldn't be works of art, they should be practical tools" - I have nothing to disprove your viewpoint. I can only tell you: get a PC.
But back to the original topic: a few adapters. Seriously? No one is asking you to spill blood everytime you want to plug in a TV to your MBP. It's too hard to carry an adapter? Why would you have to do it when that Dell has a HDMI port? Apple should've included one USB-A? Yeah, get a PC. It's not that you don't
get Apple, it's just that what they do doesn't provide value for you.
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On what basis? Unlike an adapter, it's an integrated part of a keyboard that would add cost to leave off for you but adds no cost to leave on for the majority who use it.
Adding additional ports adds cost - it's not just holes, you know. It adds cost in size, internal components and in terms of beauty of design.
And majority of people do not use those ports. Majority of people use only one of them and they can continue using it by ADAPTING the amazing universal port to whatever they need.
