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It's funny watching you try to bring every single Apple issue you can into this discussion. I'm curious, do you have a list attached to your monitor so that you can wield this incredible power at a moments notice? Maybe a "Top 10 Apple Problems" chart and a die you can roll to help you decide which one to post next?
Samsung is employing an army of commenters attacking Apple, which is very effective, because a lot of people believe what they read on the internet and the sentiment against Apple is like what Microsoft got previously.
 
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It's funny watching you try to bring every single Apple issue you can into this discussion. I'm curious, do you have a list attached to your monitor so that you can wield this incredible power at a moments notice? Maybe a "Top 10 Apple Problems" chart and a die you can roll to help you decide which one to post next?

And is Pippin on the list? Why is Pippin never on the list.
 
Samsung is employing an army of commenters attacking Apple, which is very effective, because a lot of people believe what they read on the internet and the sentiment against Apple is like what Microsoft got previously.

No doubt. It's not like haven't been caught (and fined) for doing exactly that.

But I don't think Samsung needs to do this anymore. There are enough people who will bash Apple/promote Samsung out of the sheer goodness of their heart.
 
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Come on dude. What problem did it solve?

The phone looks terrible and has a plastic, unreliable screen with ripples. You have to unfold it with 2 hands, it's expensive as hell, the screen on the front is ridiculous, it is heavy, thick, and is largely pointless versus a 6.5" standard mobile screen.

It's a fun party trick, but it's largely a novelty.

I haven't tried it myself, and wouldn't pay that much for a phone, all I can say is the reviewers all seem to think the experience is good so the tech should have a future even though this product is just a first attempt.

I think your criticism applies to FaceID and the notch though. Zero problems solved over fingerprint scanners on the back of a phone, massive cost, looks terrible, animoji is a novelty, and I have the inconvenience of having to take out my phone, look at it, and swipe just to unlock it.
 
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Your personal experience means nothing. I'll take actual numbers averaged out from hundreds of millions of users over the personal opinion of someone who resorts to calling people "fanboys" because they can't form a proper argument.

It's a waste of time arguing with people who live in la la land. Apple has just as many issues as everyone else, they just happen to handle the service end much better and much more consistently. To sit here and say they don't means you have never worked in or around the industry to know enough to have a valid opinion.
 
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How cheap does a device have to be for imperfections to count? Does Apple get let off with bright spots on their iPad screens?

A lot cheaper than $2,000 that's for sure.

A crease in a folding phone is more necessary than a notch is on a non-folding phone.

Such ridiculous nonsense. Just stop.

A screen crease is not a feature. Screens are supposed to be flat, not come with image warping defects. It defeats the whole point of being able to open it full screen.

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The Fold is a bold product. But to defend the crease as "necessary" is such a trash argument.
 
I haven't tried it myself, and wouldn't pay that much for a phone, all I can say is the reviewers all seem to think the experience is good so the tech should have a future even though this product is just a first attempt.

I think your criticism applies to FaceID and the notch though. Zero problems solved over fingerprint scanners on the back of a phone, massive cost, looks terrible, animoji is a novelty, and I have the inconvenience of having to take out my phone, look at it, and swipe just to unlock it.
The reviewers were hand picked by Samsung and they just "tested" the unit. They didn't use it as a daily driver, keep it in their pocket, use it extensively, etc. Tell me the reasons it's better than a 6.5" Max and what specific problems it solves.

Have you seen how thick it is? It's literally more than 2 iPhones thick.

Animoji is not an entire concept design of a phone. It's a feature that will lead to much more advancements in facial recognition and depth sensing technology, which is why FaceID was done. FaceID was never just about unlocking your phone.

And speak for yourself. I hate using a home button and TouchID on my iPad Pro. FaceID is better in every way. You haven't seen the end of facial recognition. In the meantime, I love it...way more than TouchID.
 
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Well, it looks like Samsung will have to wait on Apple to release their fold, so they can reverse engineer it and copy it. Another regular Samsung production. Samsung should just stick with copying like they did from the original iPhone. take a history lesson and look at Samsung phones before and after the iPhone was released...........imagine if Apple released some **** like this, the internet would break....LOL
 
It's a waste of time arguing with people who live in la la land. Apple has just as many issues as everyone else, they just happen to handle the service end much better and much more consistently. To sit here and say they don't means you have never worked in or around the industry to know enough to have a valid opinion.

So you start with a lie and finish with a logical fallacy.
 
Smart move, but the damage is likely already done. The Fold added no value as is (not better than anything we have today, much worse actually), I don't know why anyone would buy it knowing that it will likely break. Apple is smart to wait this out until the tech matures and is ready for consumers (on some level, likely not phones). Samsung got desperate and it backfired, time to go back to the drawing board.
 
Just a reminder why Apple wouldn't experiment with Tech like this.
To be clear, reports are that Apple does experiment with tech like this, they just don't let it out of the lab if they can't make it work well enough to build and sell at the rate of half a million a day or so. I hear they build lots of prototypes that never see the light of day.
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'Breaking' news indeed.
And it was reported above the fold.
 
To all the Samsung apologists / Apple haters defending this folding phone after multiple reviewer unit failures...

I want to see you all stay the course and buy this thing. Prove the rest of us wrong. Tell us how it’s holding up after six months.

I predict you will all see how much worse this is than Apple’s admittedly bad keyboards or slightly bent iPads.
 
You mean like new butterfly keybords on macbooks that have been "perfect" as you put it, since day one?

I hate the butterfly keyboard as much as the next guy (my “4” key just stopped working right today). But at least the flaws with that design are not so readily apparent that hundreds of forum posters were able to accurately predict the problems before it was released. Unlike the issues with the Fold.
 
I think your criticism applies to FaceID and the notch though. Zero problems solved over fingerprint scanners on the back of a phone, massive cost, looks terrible, animoji is a novelty, and I have the inconvenience of having to take out my phone, look at it, and swipe just to unlock it.

Funny, somehow I don't find any of what you've typed here a problem nor an inconvenience. To each his own.

Also, this Fold release is just plain bad. Just look at it in isolation of the release and design of the product. Forget about what it was meant to do, because like you and others I want to see a good folding screen product, too. Forget also that Apple and all other tech companies from time to time release products with issues. This is just plain bad. I have no idea what you're even trying to argue about.
 
The reviewers were hand picked by Samsung and they just "tested" the unit. They didn't use it as a daily driver, keep it in their pocket, use it extensively, etc. Tell me the reasons it's better than a 6.5" Max and what specific problems it solves.

Have you seen how thick it is? It's literally more than 2 iPhones thick.

Animoji is not an entire concept design of a phone. It's a feature that will lead to much more advancements in facial recognition and depth sensing technology, which is why FaceID was done.

And speak for yourself. I hate using a home button and TouchID on my iPad Pro. FaceID is better in every way.

It doesn't solve any issues. And with Android essentially dead on tablets, it doesn't become very useful when in tablet mode.

App developers have come up with many creative ways to deal with our tall, thin screens on smartphones. For example, many Apps let you swipe left or right to get access to another screen of features/options. Keep the primary content in the middle and allow quick access to additional functions when needed.

I would think opening up to a tablet just to get that extra functionality is actually worse than just using a smartphone with a larger screen. And let's face it - with the horribly tiny outer screen on the Fold, who would ever want to use it in its folded state? They might as well have done away with the outside screen completely and replaced it with a small watch-sized notification area instead. Since you were going to unfold it anyway to get anything done.
 
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