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That's an exaggeration. Most people never had any issues at all. A small number of people had minor issues.

Curious, did you claim your cash reward over the class action lawsuit that Apple settled over the iPhone 4? Do you remember how much you got?

I'll refresh your memory. It was $15 or a free bumper case. A problem that was so unbelievably bad and rendered the $600 iPhone 4 supposedly "useless" as a cell phone manages to scrape up a massive penalty to the tune of $15 per device.

Regardless what people "claim" happened with their device, the fact the settlement was only $15 proves that this issue was a non-issue. If it was as bad as people claim the settlement should have been substantially higher (even up to the full retail price of the iPhone), instead of only 2% ($15) of the value of the device.
Not at all an exaggeration. The phone lost signal when held in a normal fashion, the same way I hold my xs. 15$ didn’t fix the problem, it covered it up. In fact, had apple actually fixed the phones it would have costed way more then 15$. They lucked out that the public was fine with a patch, IMO.

You are trying pretty hard to squash anything anti apple and you look kinda ridiculous because of it.
 
It’s baffling the flaws were only discovered when production ready devices were distributed for tech reviews.
Well somethings can only be discovered when a device is in the hands of a real consumer. A Samsung employee would know that they are not supposed to peel off part of the the display.

A Samsung employee wouldn’t put the phone on top of moulding clay.

I’m sure Apple didn’t think there were any issues with their butterfly keyboards. There are so many variables which can only really be seen when a device is in the hands of a real consumer. There are obviously people out their that use their MacBook in a way which doesn’t effect their keyboard.

The fact is both Apple and Samsung make high quality devices which work for a larger number of people. Every company will have some defects with their products. It doesn’t mean they have QC issues.
 
How cheap does a device have to be for imperfections to count? Does Apple get let off with bright spots on their iPad screens?

A crease in a folding phone is more necessary than a notch is on a non-folding phone.
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I doubt it. For me a lot of the cost is the unclear usage cases meaning Samsung try to cover all bases. Just accept this should be used open more often than closed so you can reduce the 6 cameras to something more sensible and have a much simpler screen on the outside just for notifications.

I disagree. $1900 for what is essentially a phablet tells me that most of the resources went into the innovative screen design. But for it to be practical it has to be able to take some abuse and work with less-than-optimal users.
I worked repairing medical equipment in hospital and had to remind the nurses and docs that dropping a $25,000 monitor off a table is a bad idea. I also complained to the vendors about the fragility of their equipment. Like the army, it needs to work after being buried in mud and run over by a tank. ;)
 
Apple wait because they don’t have a choice. They don’t have the manufacturing prowess of the likes of Samsung. They need Samsung to make these early prototypes and to get the technology to a point of maturity before they can add their spin.

Yep. Just like they waited with touch-ID, faceid, airpods, Apple Watch, Retina displays, ProMotion, the A-series chips, ...
 
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Yep. Just like they waited with touch-ID, faceid, airpods, Apple Watch, Retina displays, ProMotion, the A-series chips, ...
Touch ID and Face ID they bought. They didn’t design that from the ground up. So yes they waited for another company to develop the technology.

The Apple Watch wasn’t the first smartwatch. Even though it’s the best smartwatch Apple were late to the game on that front.
 
There was also an instance where substances found inside the device affected the display performance.

Samsung should call Apple and request licensing rights to the condoms engineered for the new-generation butterfly keyboards.

Given the predicament they find themselves, if there is IP involved, then Samsung will gladly pay the condom licensing fees. And Cook seeing this fresh opportunity to turn the butterfly fiasco into profit, will gladly comply to license Apple's condom-infused keyboard technology./s
 
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Touch ID and Face ID they bought. They didn’t design that from the ground up. So yes they waited for another company to develop the technology.

Apple bought the technology for the sensors. All the algorithms they use to take raw data from those sensors and use it to read fingerprints (or faces) and to store that data in a secure format that can't be reverse engineered is all on Apple.

Your comment is about as ridiculous as saying if I bought a Steinway grand piano that I'm going to be able to compose symphonies.
 
I haven't tried it myself, and wouldn't pay that much for a phone, all I can say is the reviewers all seem to think the experience is good so the tech should have a future even though this product is just a first attempt.

I think your criticism applies to FaceID and the notch though. Zero problems solved over fingerprint scanners on the back of a phone, massive cost, looks terrible, animoji is a novelty, and I have the inconvenience of having to take out my phone, look at it, and swipe just to unlock it.
I don't think you have ever used the FACE DOWN and AWAY fingerprint sensors on the back of the phone. Single worst place to put bio-metrics.

I am amazed you never have to actually look at your phone to use it.
 
A better issue than exploding batteries. :D

Maybe they're just folding it wrong.

If they told customers that then they really would be copying Apple! In the excuse category at least.

"Holding it wrong" for the iphone 4 certainly was a classic tech/Apple moment.

Bad reception is definitely a better problem to have than exploding batteries and super fragile folding phones but I guess Samsung at least took it on the chin and owned up to it. Hopefully they stop taking punches though. Helps having them around to push competition and keep improving products in the product segment.
 
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Oh, MacRumors, why do you waste your time with a comment section anymore? I knew I would find the “discussion” ultimately turn this story into Apple bashing. New site name suggestion: MacRumors & Predictable Comments.

BTW not a fanboy. I’m disappointed with the downward trend of Apple QC as much as the next person, but this wasn’t an Apple story.

End of unsolicited disclaimer. You may now commence trolling my comment.
 
This kind if thing always baffles me, regardless of the company. Did no one at Samsung think to field test this before the release announcement and before handing it out to reviewers?
 
Oh, MacRumors, why do you waste your time with a comment section anymore? I knew I would find the “discussion” ultimately turn this story into Apple bashing. New site name suggestion: MacRumors & Predictable Comments.

BTW not a fanboy. I’m disappointed with the downward trend of Apple QC as much as the next person, but this wasn’t an Apple story.

End of unsolicited disclaimer. You may now commence trolling my comment.
Apple bashing? Thought would be Samsung bashing wiry people going back and forth on apple vs Samsung like all articles that mention Samsung
 
Apple bought the technology for the sensors. All the algorithms they use to take raw data from those sensors and use it to read fingerprints (or faces) and to store that data in a secure format that can't be reverse engineered is all on Apple.

Your comment is about as ridiculous as saying if I bought a Steinway grand piano that I'm going to be able to compose symphonies.
Why would you buy a piano if you don’t know how to use it? Apple wouldn’t buy something they couldn’t get any use out of.
 
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Why would you buy a piano if you don’t know how to use it? Apple wouldn’t buy something they couldn’t get any use out of.

Your post tried to imply that all Apple did was buy tech for FaceID/TouchID without doing any work themselves. I pointed out how incredibly wrong that was and that just because you buy a piece of the puzzle doesn't mean the rest gets done for you.
 
There are clearly major issues with the device. This is the byproduct of a company culture that is more interested in yelling "FIRST" than anything else.

Of course, Apple releasing their products later doesn’t mean they will be free of all problems, but they usually do end up offering a more polished user experience.
 
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Your post tried to imply that all Apple did was buy tech for FaceID/TouchID without doing any work themselves. I pointed out how incredibly wrong that was and that just because you buy a piece of the puzzle doesn't mean the rest gets done for you.
No my post said that Apple had waited for Touch ID and Face ID to be mature products before they did anything with the technology.

My initial point was that Apple have to wait in most cases for technology to mature because they don’t have the manufacturing prowess to take something to maturity such as foldable displays.

Touch ID and Face ID were then cited as examples of where Apple didn’t wait for technology to mature but developed something themselves from the ground up.

However both of them were purchased. Of course Apple did something with them but they didn’t develop the initial tech.
 
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The Wall Street Journal reports that Samsung has delayed its launch of the Galaxy Fold until "at least next month" after multiple review units experienced sudden display failures while being tested by the media last week.

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Samsung initially said it remained committed to launching the Galaxy Fold on April 26, but the rollout is now expected in the "coming weeks." The company has yet to confirm the delay, but it wouldn't be surprising given that at least some of the folding smartphones appear to have a serious hardware issue.

Galaxy Fold launch events in Hong Kong and Shanghai have already been postponed, according to Engadget's Richard Lai.

Samsung earlier confirmed that it would "thoroughly inspect" the affected devices to determine the cause, but it has yet to provide an explanation. Samsung also cautioned that removing the protective layer on the display could cause damage, but some displays failed even with the protective layer in place.

The delay would be an embarrassing mishap for a smartphone that starts at $1,980, but the right move before the Galaxy Fold gets into the hands of thousands of customers around the world and potentially turned into a larger problem.

Update: Samsung has confirmed the delay in a statement provided to CNBC, noting that it will announce a new release date "in the coming weeks" and "will take measures to strengthen the display protection."

Article Link: Galaxy Fold Launch Delayed as Samsung Commits to 'Strengthen the Display Protection' [Updated]
Gonna fold my money back up and put it away.
 
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Touch ID and Face ID they bought. They didn’t design that from the ground up. So yes they waited for another company to develop the technology.

The Apple Watch wasn’t the first smartwatch. Even though it’s the best smartwatch Apple were late to the game on that front.

Lol. The “Face ID” they “bought” was the size of a shoebox. The “touch ID” they bought was not at all manufacturable in the form factor of a phone. You claim apple isn’t aces at manufacturing, but even with your lame attempts to snipe just a couple of my many examples, the truth don’t lie.
 
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