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After 6 years of development and all the talk about not rushing and waiting until the experience was right for their customers, I’m surprised they didn’t catch such a major defect. My guess is the protective layer was a last ditch effort that didn’t end up working. With their mobile division in a steady decline, I suppose they had to give it a shot though. I’m interested to see if the Huawei fold runs into similar issues or if they have now bested Samsung when it comes to design and manufacturing.
 
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The Mate X looks good but I'm concerned about the screen being on the outside and the fact that it's a Huawei phone that's not sold thru US carriers so the support may be non existent here. My next phone will be foldable though, hopefully Samsung is able to go back to the drawing board, fix these issues and come back with a better product. I wasn't going to get gen 1 of the Fold but I was and still am on board for gen 2. Another thing is I'm kinda happy these issues came about now rather then when customers received their paid for products, it's literally free public testing for Samsung to see what issues this phone will have which I'm kinda feeling they should've done anyway. Anyhow I'm still rooting for Samsung and gen 2 of the Fold.

Well all the Huawei phones I've owned so far from the original Mate all the way to Mate 20 Pro... have been very durable and I never needed any of them to be fixed. As my second phone I am currently using a Mate RS Porsche Design very high quality phone and feels very nice in the hand. I did have problems with a Nexus 6P (which I guess is also a Huawei) that Google basically wouldn't repair my cracked screen which was kind of a bummer.

As for the screen being on the outside... well I guess we'll need to keep it away from the keys and coins. I think a little phone sleeve would be perfect to keep the outside protected when it's in a bag or something.

The few problem I have with Huawei phones is that because they are not officially carrier supported here in the US, they lack things like WiFi calling and HD Voice support, being an Android phone both functionality require carrier support. Visual Voicemail on AT&T is on an app and though it does work most of the time, unfortunately the app does gets confused because the phones are mostly all dual-SIM designs and I don't think AT&T designed the VVM app with Dual-SIM functionality in mind.

I do hope that Samsung does fix this folding phone design because right now it look like a prototype.
 
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Foldgate. Or is Apple the only company that gets the honor of a -gate? :D[/QUOTE
A non-snarky comment. It's better they delay this than release it as-is. If Apple were in the same situation they'd likely respond the same way.
It does cast doubt on the tech for foldable displays being ready for the mass market though.

There not ready, they are missing the foldable glass, so just making do with a plastic film layer how cheep is that, £2,000 mugs
 
Apple never rushes to be the first. They try to do it the best and make it BEST for the user experience.
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Samsung has been working on this for 7-8 years. That’s pathetic.

Wow that's as long as Apple has been working on Siri and Maps.
 
After 6 years of development and all the talk about not rushing and waiting until the experience was right for their customers, I’m surprised they didn’t catch such a major defect. My guess is the protective layer was a last ditch effort that didn’t end up working. With their mobile division in a steady decline, I suppose they had to give it a shot though. I’m interested to see if the Huawei fold runs into similar issues or if they have now bested Samsung when it comes to design and manufacturing.

Huawei is a better design but needs a version 2 with a better clasp (no physical release button) and foldable glass to protect the constantly exposed screen
 
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Better than the Apple approach like with bent iPad Pros claiming it's within tolerance.

Wow! It takes 15 posts in MU before people starting criticizing Apple with issues they had never down.

Seemed Sammy screwed it up really badly.
 
Wow! It takes 15 posts in MU before people starting criticizing Apple with issues they had never down.

Seemed Sammy screwed it up really badly.

Well it only took 2 posts for someone to claim Apple only releases perfect products with no flaws.
 
Unless the display failures were a simple and correctable manufacturing defect I doubt a one-month delay will be long enough to fix what is likely a fundamental design issue.
If they fix it right, this will be a lengthy delay. Just from pictures, I identified two major flaws. One is that their “screen protector” is laid on top with the edges and corners accessible to being picked at with fingernails. The real solution is to embed the edges and sides into the phone’s body. Two is that there is a giant air gap on the top and bottom of the hinge where there’s a spacing of at least a quarter inch between the hinge and the bottom of the screen. With such a giant gap, things are bound to get in under that screen.

Neither of those are quick fixes since that requires significantly redesigning both the body and the hinge. If this comes out this year, I’ll be surprised.
 
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Reviewers have become alpha testers. The whole thing is rushed to the market so that they can say "I did it (first)!". Hopefully Huawei's one will actually work.

(No mandatory mention of Apple and why it's doomed in a thread about Samsung, sorry)
 
I called this when the first broken units were sent out to social media.......they really should now just wait till next year and rename and redesign the device at this point. No one will trust this device this year....
 
The Galaxy Fold will be worse than AirPower.

The tear-away makes the Galaxy Fold look sooo dated:
- one side of the battery looks like it was pulled from a Galaxy S6!
Motherboards look too large to be honest.

I honestly do NOT expect Huawei’s Falcon hinge competitions device to not have issues either - and they’re being VERY quiet about their device through all of this - especially not allowing hands on or review units since their announcement and talking down Samsung.

This clamshell design was great for Communicators like:
Nokia E90 and previous generations,
Ericsson R380 - the first mass produced and globally available to consumers smartphone using Epoc,
HTC Windows PocketPC devices of their heyday years ....

But for modern smartphones .... let’s wait until fully wireless video communicated AR glasses to a Watch or smartphone is available. Battery life will be a better concern to tackle when that ever comes.
 
And this is why Apple always waits to put out new tech. They wait until they can perfect it.

Actually, Apple and other companies will never put out something like this. This is not the correct application for these displays right now, such a dirty, unfinished application just to try and make a quick buck by saying you innovated on something.
 
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Well it only took 2 posts for someone to claim Apple only releases perfect products with no flaws.
Speaking as someone who got the original iPhone 2 months after it came out, the iPad literally the first hour it was launched, and the Apple Watch about 2-3 weeks after it was first released, all of those products were as flawless for me as any product I've ever owned and certainly didn't seem like 1st gen products to me. Obviously no company is completely perfect, and Apple has had products come out that had problems, but they've never had a product release like the Fold or the Note 7.

The Fold is a product that has deep, obvious flaws beyond the problems the reviewers encountered (and of course the problems the reviewers encountered were ones many, many people wondered about when the product was launched). The Fold's chief problem to me is it seems to be a very unimaginative take on the folding phone that uses technology that's not up to the task. Rather than acknowledge or address these problems, you just seem to be tossing out Apple deflection arguments that more than anything don't seem to be grounded in a genuine understanding of Apple products. This approach may work on Android fanboy sites, but you're on a forum where people know a lot more about Apple than you do so your deflection arguments just seem silly and vapid.
 
I’d be interested Samsung but not with that notch when opened.

Also front screen seems a bit odd but I have to use it in person. Kind of centred... wondering if off center would have been better for one handed use.
 
And this is why Apple always waits to put out new tech. They wait until they can perfect it.
Yeah they waited more then a year to launch Airpower. How did that work out for them?

Apple is simply waiting for Samsung to perfect the foldable screen tech. The end.
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Have you noticed how quiet that hysteria became? There was never a widespread issue to begin with.
The same happened with the Note 7 after the last recall. Suddenly phones stopped catching fire.
 
Yup. It took them eight years to come up with a crappy prototype that they were all set to pawn off on customers at top dollar. So I really can’t imagine they’ll be able to fix the problem in a few weeks or months. It wouldn’t surprise me if this model never ships and they launch a Fold 2 next year or the year after.

Eight years is a long tease, and the shipping date was set for Friday. I guess this is worse than the AirPower fiasco; depends on whether Samsung ever ships a decent Fold (and whether Apple ever cracks AirPower).
It's still better than the vaporware called AirPower which was never actually seen in a functional state.
The Fold basically has reliability problem. I don't see how that's not fixable whit a workable device like the Galaxy Fold.
Also Airpower was just a charging pad, let's not forget that.
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LOL, Apple had the sense not to release the AirPower when they realized it wouldn't work. That makes it a lot better than the Fold.
More like Apple couldn't get a charging pad to work properly more than a year after they officially presented it on stage.
That is indeed worse.
 
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Yeah they waited more then a year to launch Airpower. How did that work out for them?

Apple is simply waiting for Samsung to perfect the foldable screen tech. The end.
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The same happened with the Note 7 after the last recall. Suddenly phones stopped catching fire.

Except there was no recall of the new iPad Pros. And since Samsung disabled Note 7 devices remotely, the chances of them catching fire was always going to be slim.
 
Apple bought the technology for the sensors. All the algorithms they use to take raw data from those sensors and use it to read fingerprints (or faces) and to store that data in a secure format that can't be reverse engineered is all on Apple.

Your comment is about as ridiculous as saying if I bought a Steinway grand piano that I'm going to be able to compose symphonies.
That's baseless speculation.
AutenTec's fingerprint tech was quite advanced at both the hardware and software level. That's why Apple was able to integrate their sensor in a phone so fast.
Anyway Shanghaichica is correct. Apple's doesn't have the manufacturing prowess of the likes of Samsung and they have to wait for Samsung to perfect the foldable screen tech. https://forums.macrumors.com/members/shanghaichica.806089/
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Except there was no recall of the new iPad Pros.
The situation was acknowledged by Apple and it's was of a different nature, that's why there was no recall.
And since Samsung disabled Note 7 devices remotely, the chances of them catching fire was always going to be slim.
A lot of people kept their Note 7 and I don't remember anything happening?
Also Samsung eventually did try to disable the remaining Note 7s but those that kept them most likely rooted them to bypass this problem.
 
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