Galaxy S7's 'Best Smartphone Display' Makes Strong Case for Apple to Shift to OLED iPhones

[happywaiman]

Maybe it's just an Asian thing, but AMOLED in Asia usually mean the UI control is burnt on the screen.
My iPhone 5s maybe has a backlit leak for 1mm, but at least it doesn't go worse after 30 months of use

Beside, you know that AMOLED still only have like 70% brightness as iPhone, right?
Retina screen require the panel has about 500lm at full brightness white screen (consider Safari on Google, even 5s got 550lm), but even in 2016, Samsung still only manage to get 400lm at the power consumption of the iPhone 6 Plus panel. No wonder Samsung screen seems darker under the sun. That is okay on things like watch (no white background app is allowed), but not phone, especially the design language of iOS: completely white, high brightness, and as natural as possible. (The material in Android's Material Design is too artificial. Does anyone still think it's based on paper? )
Look, I believe iPhone has a huge room to improve their screen. For starter, get me color calibrate to counter backlit different. They have like three sources for the backlit LED. Then give me ColorSync in iOS, especially Safari.
But that doesn't mean IPS is bad. Apple just need some advancement in their "tick" year. (For one thing, iOS should lower the minimum brightness, like the Mac. Without a more aggressive dynamic range, my iPad is too bright to read at night, even if I turn the background to black and get the night shift on)

 

[AppleScruff1]

I'd like to feel like little vibration when you touch the screen like the Android phones have.

Thankfully you can turn it off, personally I can't stand it. When I try out an Android phone at the store, I turn it off just to play with the phone.

 

[yegon]

Edit: Actually, happywaiman above answers this.

What's OLED like when used outdoors these days? Have they improved in this regard?

Have an OLED Vita and in the distant past a Galaxy Tab 7.7 with a SAMOLED+ screen. Nice displays, especially in the Tab, but they were markedly harder/nigh on impossible to see outside compared with LCD, which is vitally important on a mobile.

 

[Flow39]

What kind of BS are you peddling here? I haven't had a single issue with any of my OLED screens. My daughter uses my old phone and that sucker is 4-5 years old. No issue. I had my S4 for 2 years - no issue.

Are you using old biases?

I have had an opposite experience to that on 2 recent AMOLED phones. My 2014 Moto X burned in after about 2-3 months of use and my Nexus 6 burned in after about 2 weeks of use. My iPod Touch (just over 5 years old), iPhone 6, and iPad Air 2 all have 0 burn in. Yes, they use a different display technology, but the point is there are still issues with burn-in on AMOLED.

 

[oplix]

Zero chance. Apple isnt going to use a battery sucking QHD display. Guess what - if this display was 1080p or less it would suck.

 

[Jack Burton]

Great job, samsung. Now make an OLED TV that isn't enormous and I'll be first in line to buy it.

 

[MICHAELSD]

By then, there may be a better tech in use.

OLED is almost as good as it gets for displays since it has a perfect contrast ratio, in theory.

 

[mi7chy]

I have had an opposite experience to that on 2 recent AMOLED phones. My 2014 Moto X burned in after about 2-3 months of use and my Nexus 6 burned in after about 2 weeks of use. My iPod Touch (just over 5 years old), iPhone 6, and iPad Air 2 all have 0 burn in. Yes, they use a different display technology, but the point is there are still issues with burn-in on AMOLED.

Moto X uses a low quality Chinese OLED display not Samsung SAMOLED.

LCD used in iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 have countless other issues such as yellowing, bad pixel(s), dust under glass, back light bleed, grey as black, uniformity issues, book spining, pressure distortion, etc. so combined they're even worse.

 

[insomniac86]

I realize that nightshift will help this, but is there a reason iPhone screens can't be turned down further? In pitch black they are way too bright for my taste and I don't think I've ever even had my brightness higher than 50% during the day.

In sunlight it will turn itself to max brightness automatically, unless you have disabled this.
Under direct sunlight the iPhone 6s screens are hard to see even at 100%.

Unrelated but I found the iPhone 6 had the best screens when wearing polarised sunnies.

 

[CagdasCizer]

** Touchwiz. Go get a Nexus 6p or 5x and tell me the stock Android experience is a bad one.

I did. I still do. My work device is a sd410 with 2gig ram android one device. I actually runs as smooth as my 6+ which is amazing. I have actually no issues with it at all. But the design of stock android (or any android skin) is too bad for my taste. I love ios design and keyboard so much its really hard for me to use any android device as daily driver. I tried many skins and launchers but still android is a no-no for me. But my reasons are purely personal. Android is pretty smooth since 2013

 

[jhudgins]

I want OLED but not until the tech is ready. Burnin is still an issue with laptops and you shouldn't have to sacrifice the user experience just to minimize the possibility of it. Who wants to stress out over dark themes and too much web browsing? It can be frustrating waiting for Apple to adopt the latest technology, but when they do, generally, they're the best at implementing it. Just wait.

 

[BvizioN]

They've fallen behind a long time ago;

No file manager = fail.

Don't make me laugh! I think majority of ordinary iOS users would have absolutely no idea what you talking about!

 

[bladerunner2000]

Don't make me laugh! I think majority of ordinary iOS users would have absolutely no idea what you talking about!

Not surprising, they've never seen one.
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The problem with you guys talking about OLED TVs is you have to understand the reason LG is selling OLED mass market is due to them using an RGBW pixel arrangement, also known in the industry as WOLED. By using a white pixel sub arrangement they are able to bypass the number one issue with OLED TVs and that is the blue pixel dying out.

Samsung introduced the worlds first 55" RGB OLED - which Sony pioneered years before but couldn't release due to cost, but had to stop production again due to the failure rates of a true RGB OLED TV.

Any manufacturers doing OLED tv will have to use LGs tech - which they bought from Kodak - as it's the cheapest (still not cheaper than lcd) way to mass market OLED TVs.

Now don't get me started on 70"+ OLED TVs which are so difficult to build right now.

We are at least 5 years off an affordable sub $1000 50" OLED TV.

How sure are you of this?

Last year I bought my first real TV, a 48" Sony 1080p and I love it. I sit about 7feet away from it when watching movies, and I don't think I'd notice a difference in sharpness if I moved onto a 4K TV unless I sat up close. I thought about 4k though... but then thought about OLED... and 120hz/240hz refresh rates... But I wasn't planning on getting any of the extra feature unless it was OLED, so I decided to wait it out until OLED comes along... but do you really think it's that far off?

 

[Led-zep]

The problem with you guys talking about OLED TVs is you have to understand the reason LG is selling OLED mass market is due to them using an RGBW pixel arrangement, also known in the industry as WOLED. By using a white pixel sub arrangement they are able to bypass the number one issue with OLED TVs and that is the blue pixel dying out.

Samsung introduced the worlds first 55" RGB OLED - which Sony pioneered years before but couldn't release due to cost, but had to stop production again due to the failure rates of a true RGB OLED TV.

Any manufacturers doing OLED tv will have to use LGs tech - which they bought from Kodak - as it's the cheapest (still not cheaper than lcd) way to mass market OLED TVs.

Now don't get me started on 70"+ OLED TVs which are so difficult to build right now.

We are at least 5 years off an affordable sub $1000 50" OLED TV.

 

[Applefan4]

Don't make me laugh! I think majority of ordinary iOS users would have absolutely no idea what you talking about!

Don't deny that iTunes is absolutely cancerous. I've taught my mom how to use Note 3's file system in 5 minutes because it's just like transferring media on/off flash drive, while it took much longer to learn to use iTunes and she still thinks (and I agree) is a pain in the ass.

Transferring stuff I've torrented to my 6S+ is one my biggest gripes when using iPhone

 

[lagwagon]

This has nothing to do with it, the screen itself is not pressure sensitive and current OLED panels are not any thicker than equivalent LCD panels (could easily be used with 3D Touch). The issues with OLED are what I've described above.

Except OLED doesn't have a backlight like LCD does. Which is pretty much the main component of 3D Touch, because that how it measures the distance changes when pressing into the screen.

So no, the current implementation of 3D Touch can't be easily used with OLED.

Though I'm sure Apple has already thought of the "how" as it's rumoured they are swapping to OLED in 2018 (for the what should be the iPhone 8)

 

[diipii]

I can't tell anymore if people are being sarcastic or not.

If it's about Appleland they are.

 

[Wahlstrm]

I sure did a stupid thing yesterday and now it can't be unseen..

I went to a store an critically compared my iPhone with an 1440p oled screen..

It was not as bad as it was looking back at an old 3Gs after using 4s retina for a while,
but yeah, Apple needs to up the res a bit..

 

[MonkeySee....]

I've not read this whole thread and I suspect I'm in the minority but I don't see the issue with Apples display and I'm on a 4S. lol

Maybe because I've not seen an OLED screen.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

 

[TouchMint.com]

2 or 3 years huh?

Pepperidge Farms remembers when Apple was the innovator.

 

[John Mcgregor]

I've not read this whole thread and I suspect I'm in the minority but I don't see the issue with Apples display and I'm on a 4S. lol

Maybe because I've not seen an OLED screen.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Looking at my iPhone 6S Plus and my Galaxy S6 i have no idea who could conclude that Galaxy S6 has a better screen. Blind man probably.
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Don't deny that iTunes is absolutely cancerous. I've taught my mom how to use Note 3's file system in 5 minutes because it's just like transferring media on/off flash drive, while it took much longer to learn to use iTunes and she still thinks (and I agree) is a pain in the ass.

Transferring stuff I've torrented to my 6S+ is one my biggest gripes when using iPhone

Your suffering is well deserved.

 

[jamezr]

Looking at my iPhone 6S Plus and my Galaxy S6 i have no idea who could conclude that Galaxy S6 has a better screen. Blind man probably.
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Your suffering is well deserved.

OMG......really? Just the whole world can tell the difference right from the start. I have a 6s+ and a Note 5 and the difference in the displays are like night and day! I guess the whole industry must be blind then huh? Because the whole tech industry rates the Galaxy S6 and Note 5 displays to be much much better than the 6s displays. So the whole world is blind....except for you huh?

 

[Kabeyun]

Transferring stuff I've torrented to my 6S+ is one my biggest gripes when using iPhone

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Now it's easy. You're welcome.
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2 or 3 years huh?

Pepperidge Farms remembers when Apple was the innovator.

So you're saying innovation means playing leapfrog with the Joneses? You think Apple engineers never heard of or can't figure out OLED?

People used to complain that they didn't put as many hertz in their CPUs as the competition. They complain that they don't put as many pixels in their camera sensor as the competition. They complain that they put too many millimeters in the thickness. (Yet somehow, inexplicably, their gadgets are really popular.)

Wraparound screen edges are a gimmick. Removable media is a gimmick, especially now that everyone's streaming everything (I have a 128GB iPhone that's half full). A 1440p screen the size of a deck of cards is a hilarious gimmick, as it exceeds the resolving power of the human retina. More spec-ery.

Not saying Apple can't make stuff better. But lord, people, focus on what matters, like battery life and UI and data handoff. No day to day iPhine user ever said, "Boy, I wish I had more pixels."

It's about the whole package. Trust me, they're working on good stuff.

 

[nando87]

Amazing device, bad OS, bad technical support.
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http://softorino.com/waltr

Now it's easy. You're welcome.
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So you're saying innovation means playing leapfrog with the Joneses? You think Apple engineers never heard of or can't figure out OLED?

People used to complain that they didn't put as many hertz in their CPUs as the competition. They complain that they don't put as many pixels in their camera sensor as the competition. They complain that they put too many millimeters in the thickness. (Yet somehow, inexplicably, their gadgets are really popular.)

Wraparound screen edges are a gimmick. Removable media is a gimmick, especially now that everyone's streaming everything (I have a 128GB iPhone that's half full). A 1440p screen the size of a deck of cards is a hilarious gimmick, as it exceeds the resolving power of the human retina. More spec-ery.

Not saying Apple can't make stuff better. But lord, people, focus on what matters, like battery life and UI and data handoff. No day to day iPhine user ever said, "Boy, I wish I had more pixels."

It's about the whole package. Trust me, they're working on good stuff.

Stop drinking so much apple's kool aid. Jony Ive himself said in several interviews that the current iPhone display feels ancient to him because of the way it turns on and off, clearly implying the OLED capabilities for perfect black, always on and others. Apple will use OLED in 2 or 3 years because they need to amortize their investment in their actual displays, nothing more. And because of higher margins too.

 

[samcraig]

It's been an interesting conversation to read. And amazing to see the opinions that arise (and so strongly) just because an article states that one OEM's screen is better than another's. There's definitely some cognitive dissonance or something going on...