Galaxy S7's 'Best Smartphone Display' Makes Strong Case for Apple to Shift to OLED iPhones

I want OLED but not until the tech is ready. Burnin is still an issue with laptops and you shouldn't have to sacrifice the user experience just to minimize the possibility of it. Who wants to stress out over dark themes and too much web browsing? It can be frustrating waiting for Apple to adopt the latest technology, but when they do, generally, they're the best at implementing it. Just wait.

Like the light bleed and yellow tinted screens on the iPad a couple of years ago?
 
Ahh appreciate you taking the time. It still seems to look way better than any thing with fast motion on any LCD panel that I've seen. The motion compensation stuff on LCD is just annoying. Either way, I was planning on waiting at least another year so prices go down a bit before making the leap, hopefully it's a bit more of a solid technology by then. Thanks again.

No problem. Even with the shortcomings, it is easily the best looking display I have ever seen. It makes watching a movie at home, in the dark, a real experience.
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I want OLED but not until the tech is ready. Burnin is still an issue with laptops and you shouldn't have to sacrifice the user experience just to minimize the possibility of it. Who wants to stress out over dark themes and too much web browsing? It can be frustrating waiting for Apple to adopt the latest technology, but when they do, generally, they're the best at implementing it. Just wait.

Yes burn-in is possible, but you really have to be negligent with the display. The same way burn-in was possible with Plasma at the end of its life. It was possible, but nothing like the early stages on Plasma TVs.
 
Don't deny that iTunes is absolutely cancerous. I've taught my mom how to use Note 3's file system in 5 minutes because it's just like transferring media on/off flash drive, while it took much longer to learn to use iTunes and she still thinks (and I agree) is a pain in the ass.

Transferring stuff I've torrented to my 6S+ is one my biggest gripes when using iPhone

Just your noting that your issue is transferring things you've torrented, makes you a member of the minority. You're clearly trying to use the iPhone outside of what Apple wants you to do, which is your prerogative, but to think that most users would appreciate going back to one of the things that made PC's unbearable for most non-tech people, is simply ridiculous thinking. Imagine, getting a photo texted to you, then when you want to save it, you have to scroll through multiple options of where you want it saved, then remember where you put it after the fact. That's not fast or easy, it's a piece of the past that makes no sense to hold onto.
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Amazing device, bad OS, bad technical support.
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Stop drinking so much apple's kool aid. Jony Ive himself said in several interviews that the current iPhone display feels ancient to him because of the way it turns on and off, clearly implying the OLED capabilities for perfect black, always on and others. Apple will use OLED in 2 or 3 years because they need to amortize their investment in their actual displays, nothing more. And because of higher margins too.

Even if Jony Ive commented on the perfect black of OLED always being on, the fact remains that most websites and certainly emails have been designed with white backgrounds, not black. Meaning OLED needs to run at high power in order to have the background white, negating a bunch of the benefit that OLED has. Sure, watching movies can be better on an OLED screen, but we're talking small screen phones here - not big screen tv's.

I don't see a switch to all black backgrounds in websites, documents, spreadsheets, emails, and even photographs, any time soon. Perhaps at some point, a switch will happen and we'll all be looking at screens that are primarily black, with the copy in white, but I doubt it will be anytime soon.
 
Removable media is a gimmick, especially now that everyone's streaming everything (I have a 128GB iPhone that's half full). A 1440p screen the size of a deck of cards is a hilarious gimmick, as it exceeds the resolving power of the human retina. More spec-ery.

Removable media isn't a gimmick. I'll give you a couple of real world scenarios where removable media is integral to my life. 4k videos take up a crapload of storage space so I tend to run out of room VERY quickly. Having kids I don't want to miss a moment of their lives and with smartphones becoming the go to device since it's always on you, having lots of storage space is important. I also don't play games much anymore on my phones, but there was a time when I enjoyed it and liked having multiple games installed, another reason removable media is important. You can make the same case for movies as well. I use cloud services a lot, and of course I'll back up my stuff whenever I get onto wifi. But for most of the time I'm not on wifi and do not have an unlimited data plan.

As for resolution, I notice a marked difference between my Note 5 and the iPhone 6s+, much sharper. Samsung also takes advantage of this by scaling their UI so you can see more on screen, for example in Maps/GPS apps you can see more of the map, more street names, etc. Also, while I understand it's only a very small minority, VR is incredible on the Note 5. VR really takes massive advantage of the higher resolution.

And let's get one thing clear, Apple not putting in this technology is usually based on saving money. They have by far the largest profit margin on hardware of any company out there and they know it. It's an incredibly smart move because they know just how many trade offs their fans are willing to take to have that Apple logo. If they wanted to put out an OLED screen they could, they just choose not to.
 
That's the equivalent of calling us idiots, fanboys, isheeps and worse.

When others critizise : 5400rpm hard drive in a $1,499 iMac? Ridiculous move by Apple!

When you critizise : Apple users don't want the best display, we want Apple to maximize profits.

You don't attack a perceived flaw of a product, you use a flaw to attack the customers for enabling the evil corporation to do it's greedy thing. Big difference! Nobody here defends everything Apple does or worships the company as an infallable savior. But you keep pretending we are. That's why you come over as an Apple-hater. It's not what you critizise or how often, but the way you do it.

Again, you are trolling.
And you seem to prove his point, ironic isn't it.
 
OMG......really? Just the whole world can tell the difference right from the start. I have a 6s+ and a Note 5 and the difference in the displays are like night and day! I guess the whole industry must be blind then huh? Because the whole tech industry rates the Galaxy S6 and Note 5 displays to be much much better than the 6s displays. So the whole world is blind....except for you huh?

I guess. Yes. Just like the world is blind when a much older 6S with fewer CU cores, lower cpu clock speed and less ram still provides better performance and fluid ui. Not something i can say about s6 and from what i saw in the videos s7 is no better.

"4 GB RAM for better multitasking" - what a ****ing joke.
 
I want OLED but not until the tech is ready. Burnin is still an issue with laptops and you shouldn't have to sacrifice the user experience just to minimize the possibility of it. Who wants to stress out over dark themes and too much web browsing? It can be frustrating waiting for Apple to adopt the latest technology, but when they do, generally, they're the best at implementing it. Just wait.
Burn-in is barely an issue with 99.99999 percent of devices and what laptops used OLED?
 
Just your noting that your issue is transferring things you've torrented, makes you a member of the minority. You're clearly trying to use the iPhone outside of what Apple wants you to do, which is your prerogative, but to think that most users would appreciate going back to one of the things that made PC's unbearable for most non-tech people, is simply ridiculous thinking. Imagine, getting a photo texted to you, then when you want to save it, you have to scroll through multiple options of where you want it saved, then remember where you put it after the fact. That's not fast or easy, it's a piece of the past that makes no sense to hold onto.
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Even if Jony Ive commented on the perfect black of OLED always being on, the fact remains that most websites and certainly emails have been designed with white backgrounds, not black. Meaning OLED needs to run at high power in order to have the background white, negating a bunch of the benefit that OLED has. Sure, watching movies can be better on an OLED screen, but we're talking small screen phones here - not big screen tv's.

I don't see a switch to all black backgrounds in websites, documents, spreadsheets, emails, and even photographs, any time soon. Perhaps at some point, a switch will happen and we'll all be looking at screens that are primarily black, with the copy in white, but I doubt it will be anytime soon.

You do have high contrast mode though. high contrast mode works like crap in android and iOS, but in windows it's phenomenal and works perfectly. I don't believe any windows phones or tablets have OLED yet, the upcoming Samsung windows tablet will be the first one. I also really dig having the ability to have always on notifications and things like a night clock which only lights up the pixels of the clock text, something impossible to do on the iPhone. Yeah I know little things which not a lot of people use, but maybe because they are not available. If Apple had always on notifications I bet it would be very popular.

As for the file manager, I couldn't live without mine. It just allows me to be much more organized and gives me control over where files go and accessing them through any program or cloud service. I do appreciate an app being able to be a limited file manager, but it just doesn't work universally when I have multiple apps accessing those files or I need to export them to a different app.
 
I guess. Yes. Just like the world is blind when a much older 6S with fewer CU cores, lower cpu clock speed and less ram still provides better performance and fluid ui. Not something i can say about s6 and from what i saw in the videos s7 is no better.

"4 GB RAM for better multitasking" - what a ****ing joke.

Looking at my iPhone 6S Plus and my Galaxy S6 i have no idea who could conclude that Galaxy S6 has a better screen. Blind man probably

ohhhh....so now you changed your tune. First it was the displays now its the internals....yeah gotcha.
You have been disproven time and time again with your Samsung hate....just get over it already.

Get back to me when the iPhone can do this....

 
I guess. Yes. Just like the world is blind when a much older 6S with fewer CU cores, lower cpu clock speed and less ram still provides better performance and fluid ui. Not something i can say about s6 and from what i saw in the videos s7 is no better.

"4 GB RAM for better multitasking" - what a ****ing joke.

This is true fundamentally. Consumers overall don't seem to care much about specs unless Apple markets them. If Apple consumers get better specs they are happy, but if they don't they seem to be happy as well. It's that intangible power Apple has over consumers where they don't need the most incredible specs. I think that's somewhere that Samsung has seriously gone wrong. As you mention, throwing more RAM at the issue isn't solving anything.

Putting aside the topic of specs for a second I think Samsung keeps making the same 2 mistakes:
1) Not overhauling Touchwiz so it truly runs smoothly and can finally outrun the very negative legacy and press it gets. Or just get rid of Touchwiz and make your features modular so they can be installed on top of vanilla Android. Every release they promise the same thing, a streamlined Touchwiz due to optimization, less bloatware and more RAM, and every year they don't deliver.
2) Focus on customer service. Being able to walk into an Apple store, have your problem diagnosed and instantly fixed with a replacement is incredibly powerful. Versus having some moron in a Samsung experience store inside a Best Buy who has no idea what they are doing and you have to send your phone to Texas and wait 3 weeks for it to *maybe* get fixed. These are completely different ends of the spectrum and it hurts Samsung. I don't expect Samsung to open stores nationwide or worldwide, but in the US they at least have the advantage of having Samsung centers there. Why not train that staff on tech support, provide warranty replacements, etc?

For us here on the forums specs mean a lot, but in the real world they don't mean much after a certain point. But things like a smooth UI and awesome customer service count for a lot.
 
How about emailing a song? Who says it has to be a Finder system. What about managing attachments, downloading photos from the Internet into *gasp* a different grouping than the gallery?
Shows how little gou know.
I can put photos and music in iCloud drive, and attach files from iCloud drive in email.
Maybe it's just an Asian thing, but AMOLED in Asia usually mean the UI control is burnt on the screen.
My iPhone 5s maybe has a backlit leak for 1mm, but at least it doesn't go worse after 30 months of use

Beside, you know that AMOLED still only have like 70% brightness as iPhone, right?
Retina screen require the panel has about 500lm at full brightness white screen (consider Safari on Google, even 5s got 550lm), but even in 2016, Samsung still only manage to get 400lm at the power consumption of the iPhone 6 Plus panel. No wonder Samsung screen seems darker under the sun. That is okay on things like watch (no white background app is allowed), but not phone, especially the design language of iOS: completely white, high brightness, and as natural as possible. (The material in Android's Material Design is too artificial. Does anyone still think it's based on paper? )
Look, I believe iPhone has a huge room to improve their screen. For starter, get me color calibrate to counter backlit different. They have like three sources for the backlit LED. Then give me ColorSync in iOS, especially Safari.
But that doesn't mean IPS is bad. Apple just need some advancement in their "tick" year. (For one thing, iOS should lower the minimum brightness, like the Mac. Without a more aggressive dynamic range, my iPad is too bright to read at night, even if I turn the background to black and get the night shift on)

Apple could make a laminated iphone display, as they did with the air2 and mini 4. If they do that and improve blacks(next gen in-cel display), and up the dpi, reduce bezels, they can have a very good display on their hands. See display mate' s review of the iPad mini 4 screen.
They will close the gap a little by doing this. But Apple is trailing in screen tech and they will until 2018.
But Apple has the resources to close the gaps in wireless/fast charging and screen-tech(micro led by luxvue) in the next 2 years. And they will, perhaps without the help of Samsung ...
 
Wow. Feels like I got back into my wayback machine. These posts are almost identical when the S3 came out years ago. Other than some of the technologies changing, all the other posts and rhetoric are the same.

The same will be true 4 years from now when the 11S and S11 roll off the assembly lines. At the end of the day, buy/use what you like and what works for you.
 
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Don't deny that iTunes is absolutely cancerous. I've taught my mom how to use Note 3's file system in 5 minutes because it's just like transferring media on/off flash drive, while it took much longer to learn to use iTunes and she still thinks (and I agree) is a pain in the ass.

Transferring stuff I've torrented to my 6S+ is one my biggest gripes when using iPhone

I totally agree that iTunes is horrendous. I been using iPhone for years on cant't even remember the last time I used iTunes on my Mac to sync my iPhone.
 
I wouldn't put much stock in what Displaymate says, since they are a paid consultant for Samsung. That being said, I'm sure that it has a nice display.
 
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Or in this case, what Apple wants them to see.

Here is the thing with you guys who believe most iPhone users have not used anything else. You can't possibly be anymore wrong! I personally don't know any single person who is iOS user and have not tried other platforms (mainly Android) I also have tried several times (Galaxy Phones) and also I do agree that there are obvious advantages, there are too many drawbacks and certainly not worth it for me. So I think people are not that naive to think only Apple products exist. People try, people switch, people will always go back to kind of products they prefer. That file manager thing by the way, I knew it was there, I did not use it not even once when I was using Samsung phone. Because I didn't need it. I do agree that having the option is certainly an advantage, but the statement "No file manager= fail" is laughable because iPhones/iPads have never had file manager before and iPhone users aren't going to suddenly want the file manager to the point that is a deal breaker for them.
 
Here is the thing with you guys who believe most iPhone users have not used anything else. You can't possibly be anymore wrong! I personally don't know any single person who is iOS user and have not tried other platforms (mainly Android) I also have tried several times (Galaxy Phones) and also I do agree that there are obvious advantages, there are too many drawbacks and certainly not worth it for me. So I think people are not that naive to think only Apple products exist. People try, people switch, people will always go back to kind of products they prefer. That file manager thing by the way, I knew it was there, I did not use it not even once when I was using Samsung phone. Because I didn't need it. I do agree that having the option is certainly an advantage, but the statement "No file manager= fail" is laughable because iPhones/iPads have never had file manager before and iPhone users aren't going to suddenly want the file manager to the point that is a deal breaker for them.

Most iProducts are bought out of vanity.
 
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I would have preferred to just reply with this image, but think about it.
Kind of like your assertion that Apple users just want a screen that works…implying a conscientious compromise of quality. Right, that cute meme of yours works perfectly for your original argument, too. Nice job.
 
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But the screens may have shorter lifespans. If Apple could get everyone to exchange their current iPhone for the latest model on a yearly basis, quick-dying screens wouldn't matter. Otherwise, I say pass on OLED until the tech is reliable.

I have a Samsung S4 which is about three years old and the screen is just great. Maybe it won't last two more years butby then I'll have a new phone.
 
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