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I'll tell you who decides when it's a good time to adopt any type of technology in Apple products: Apple. They completely skipped Blu Ray, and rightly so, and for all anyone knows, Apple may have something revolutionary which completely blows ANY OLED/AMOLED out of the water, making it look like a primitive toy. They've done it before, they are certainly competent and confident enough to do it again.

Bookmark this post, and come back in 5 years and see if I was wrong, and if you're looking at this in 2021, and I *WAS* wrong, well that's okay too, we are all wrong with great regularity. :)
 
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I've enjoyed the very energy-efficient AMOLED display on my Moto X. Would be cool to see iPhones do similar stuff.
 
I have a Samsung S4 which is about three years old and the screen is just great. Maybe it won't last two more years butby then I'll have a new phone.
People actually want their iPhones to last longer than a paltry 3-4 years; the 3G S is still a very usable (albeit slow and low res) iPhone, which some people still use. Most Samsungs WILL be abandoned or in landfill in 2-3 years, because they're gaudy plastic crap, and their "design" ages faster than bananas, and their flimsy plastic chassis and spray painted coatings will wear and break before ANY iPhone even begins to show signs of aging.
 
Anecdotal evidence aside, I'm sure Apple wouldn't be investigating short OLED lifespans if it wasn't an actual problem.

could also be a perception thing:

Using anecdotal evidence again: My mother is still using her Samsung Galaxy S3 she bought years and years ago, and hasn't suffered any display quality issues.

getting her a smartphone was a mistake.. She's now sending me constant emails and pictures and messages and getting angry when I don't respond to her instantly
 
How about emailing a song? Who says it has to be a Finder system. What about managing attachments, downloading photos from the Internet into *gasp* a different grouping than the gallery?

I don't know how something different than the gallery for photos would help me on a small, touchscreen mobile device though? Id like an automatic "downloaded from web" folder maybe - but a separate app would just confuse me where things had gone...although you CAN do that if you want the share sheet lets you save to anything. Install Transmit FTP and you can have a file manager system where you download anything to anyone - even mount a disk on a local server to save to. Dropbox app can do it too. You can already do all of these things since iOS8. I haven't felt the need to, but you can. Definitely check out Transmit though, its super flexible.
 
Is that really an argument? Those phones are on max brightness and are left on 24/7 for the entire time they're on display.

And you think you can reliably predict the usage conditions which several hundred million phone users will subject theirs to? Apple won't entertain this technology until it can be absolutely proven that under NO circumstances will it tarnish their phones mark of quality.
 
Is that really an argument? Those phones are on max brightness and are left on 24/7 for the entire time they're on display.

AND so are the Iphones (and other LCD Phones) which do not exhibit this behavior. Of course we can debate whether OLED's lower lifespan and burn in rate is an issue in "real-world use" but it is still a fact that OLED screes DO have more burn in issues and shorter lifespans than LCD displays.

However, OLED displays have made HUGE leaps in quality over the recent 5-7 years. (from low-res junk to really really nice displays), that being said, even recent "flagship" OLED phones (s6 and s6 edge) I have personally seen burn-in so bad that I would consider the phone unusable on display in my local AT&T store.
 
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Removable media is a gimmick, especially now that everyone's streaming everything (I have a 128GB iPhone that's half full). A 1440p screen the size of a deck of cards is a hilarious gimmick, as it exceeds the resolving power of the human retina. More spec-ery.

Not saying Apple can't make stuff better. But lord, people, focus on what matters, like battery life and UI and data handoff. No day to day iPhine user ever said, "Boy, I wish I had more pixels."

It's about the whole package. Trust me, they're working on good stuff.

LOL! You really believe that? Hahaha.
 
so this is THE "OLED" that is supposed to have darker blacks than a CRT, uses less energy than an LCD, and lives for like forever?

I heard about OLED a very long time ago, but last I heard there was one of the colors (blue or green) that dies or changes color too soon making it unreliable? Please update me.

Funny how LCD is considered "unacceptable" now. I recall back in 2001, someone would drool to get the "thin" display that looks like its from the future, over the bulky CRT

2001 was a long time ago
 
AND so are the Iphones (and other LCD Phones) which do not exhibit this behavior. Of course we can debate whether OLED's lower lifespan and burn in rate is an issue in "real-world use" but it is still a fact that OLED screes DO have more burn in issues and shorter lifespans than LCD displays.

However, OLED displays have made HUGE leaps in quality over the recent 5-7 years. (from low-res junk to really really nice displays), that being said, even recent "flagship" OLED phones (s6 and s6 edge) I have personally seen burn-in so bad that I would consider the phone unusable on display in my local AT&T store.

Difference is most iPhone and iPad LCD displays come defective out of the box under normal use with yellowing, grey as black, bad pixel(s), uniformity issues, book spining, dust under screen, pressure distortion, etc. and isn't immune from backlight aging while aging of SAMOLED under normal use takes years usually long after you've upgraded. From personal experience my iPhone 4 developed a yellow spot over time that didn't go away while the Galaxy S from the same year still looked like new up until I still had it last year. No display is perfect but SAMOLED is closer to perfection while LCD has many more inherent defects but it's cheaper and more profitable for Apple.
 
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I don't know how something different than the gallery for photos would help me on a small, touchscreen mobile device though? Id like an automatic "downloaded from web" folder maybe - but a separate app would just confuse me where things had gone...although you CAN do that if you want the share sheet lets you save to anything. Install Transmit FTP and you can have a file manager system where you download anything to anyone - even mount a disk on a local server to save to. Dropbox app can do it too. You can already do all of these things since iOS8. I haven't felt the need to, but you can. Definitely check out Transmit though, its super flexible.

My phone has a separate folder for images downloaded from the Web, say grabbing an image from reddit, a separate folder for screenshots, and then my gallery. Definitely wouldn't want to combine them as it would be difficult to find certain images later.
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Shows how little gou know.
I can put photos and music in iCloud drive, and attach files from iCloud drive in email.
This comment made me curious, so I looked it up. I couldn't find a single article or video explaining how to pick a song that's in my music library and send it to someone. As a music producer that is often juggling various mixes this is important to be able to do quickly and easily. The only articles I found attempted to explain iCloud drive and were so utterly convoluted that I was at a loss for words and still didn't help me figure out how to email a song from my phone. Not to mention the problem I am asking a solution for should not require cloud storage between my and the recipient's email servers, let alone iCloud storage that Apple charges for beyond a few measly gigabytes. Help me understand this, I'm not trolling, I just want to know how how to email a song from my phone.
http://ios.wonderhowto.com/how-to/view-use-icloud-drive-files-your-iphone-0157524/
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-use-icloud-drive-3604620/
 
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My phone has a separate folder for images downloaded from the Web, say grabbing an image from reddit, a separate folder for screenshots, and then my gallery. Definitely wouldn't want to combine them as it would be difficult to find certain images later.
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This comment made me curious, so I looked it up. I couldn't find a single article or video explaining how to pick a song that's in my music library and send it to someone. As a music producer that is often juggling various mixes this is important to be able to do quickly and easily. The only articles I found attempted to explain iCloud drive and were so utterly convoluted that I was at a loss for words and still didn't help me figure how to email a song from my phone. Not to mention the problem I am asking a solution for should not require cloud storage beetween my and the recipient's email servers, let alone iCloud storage that Apple charges for beyond a few measly gigabytes. Help me understand this, I'm not trolling, I just want to know how how to email a song from my phone.
http://ios.wonderhowto.com/how-to/view-use-icloud-drive-files-your-iphone-0157524/
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-use-icloud-drive-3604620/
It made me curious too, and I have to admit you can do more now with iCloud Drive. You can' t do it all without a pc. A shame.
So I apologize about my lack of knowledge.
Never missed it though...
 
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Difference is most iPhone and iPad LCD displays come defective out of the box under normal use with yellowing, grey as black, bad pixel(s), uniformity issues, book spining, dust under screen, pressure distortion, etc. and isn't immune from backlight aging while aging of SAMOLED under normal use takes years usually long after you've upgraded. From personal experience my iPhone 4 developed a yellow spot over time that didn't go away while the Galaxy S from the same year still looked like new up until I still had it last year. No display is perfect but SAMOLED is closer to perfection while LCD has many more inherent defects but it's cheaper and more profitable for Apple.
Nice hyperbole regarding most iPhone and iPad displays.

And plenty of iPhones are perfect after 4 years of service. While plenty of oled exhibit burn in.
 
And you think you can reliably predict the usage conditions which several hundred million phone users will subject theirs to? Apple won't entertain this technology until it can be absolutely proven that under NO circumstances will it tarnish their phones mark of quality.

That much is obvious. My point is not to say that apple is stupid for having waited years to start incorporating OLED into the iPhone. My point is not to make false assumptions about 1st-2nd gen. tech, when the 5th-65th gen. tech that is out right now is incredible. If it wasn't incredible atm, apple wouldn't be testing it, and planning on implementing it in less than 24 months.
 
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