Where I am, also outside the USA, Apple has 3D terrain maps, google doesn't even have STREETS on their maps. (Apparently google thinks this town of many tens of thousands of people does not exist.)
I take it you are aware that at any time Apple can:
- Track your location
- View your browsing history
- View your documents
- View your Mac's (approx.) location
- Send and receive Audio from your devices
- Obviously read iMessages
- View your photos
- etc
Tell me, how is this different from what Google can do?
This is a shame and would be huge for travel. It's in the Android version, you can actually draw a box around a region you'd like cached offline. Was hoping this would come to iOS.Well I'll just stick to using Google Maps on my Mac, taking a screenshot and sending it to my iPod Touch through USB until they figure out a way to have maps offline!
All i know is that google = sell your information to advertisers. how else do they make money.
Apple = didnt want to sell your info, therefore they said NO to google maps on the iphone. Apple makes money from you buying the iphone.
I wasn't talking about android, I was talking about google maps, on the web, you know the product this MacRumors article is about?
I wasn't talking about android, I was talking about google maps, on the web, you know the product this MacRumors article is about?.
Boring keynote and way too long.
You're simply wrong. iMessages, documents in the cloud, including browsing history, etc, are encrypted. Apple cannot decrypt it without violating their privacy policy (Which only allows them to do this with a court order.)
Google reads all this stuff as a matter of policy.
The same in what sense? Your belief is that some nutter is sitting at Google HQ reading your browsing habits and emails.Why do you assume that they are the same?
And don't give me that "I'm not a fanboy" line.... you're making up facts to try and defend Google's business model, by claiming that Apple does the same thing. Why would you do that without motivation?
If you were ignorant enough of the situation to not know that Apple encrypted this data, you wouldn't be motivated to comment in the first place.
I take it you are aware that at any time Apple can:
- Track your location
- View your browsing history
- View your documents
- View your Mac's (approx.) location
- Send and receive Audio from your devices
- Obviously read iMessages
- View your photos
- etc
They also (very obviously) track what your interests are based on apps, music and videos you download, and such.
Tell me, how is this different from what Google can do?
(Note: For reference I am not a 'fanboy' of any brand - I use products that do what I need, and hold no loyal 'ties' to Apple or Google just for the sake of it)
You said you weren't talking about Android because this MacRumors post was about the web product. It's not. It's about the mobile apps, the quote was irrefutable evidence. You are wrong, plain and simple.
The funny thing is that even with his goal changed he is still wrong, Google has had vector maps for the web service since 2.011 using MapsGL
Google sell that information to advertisers. Apple don't. Fact.
Google sell that information to advertisers. Apple don't. Fact.
Also, Apple can't read iMessages
Ok, you want to play that game. Lets get to it.
Could you cite a source for that?
And a source for that?
The same in what sense? Your belief is that some nutter is sitting at Google HQ reading your browsing habits and emails.
In my view (and the view of most of the sane world) is that NEITHER read ANY of your info. Sure, they both COULD but wouldn't.
So, yes - in that sense, they are the same.
Pot, meet kettle.
I was providing a logical response to an irrational post. People always make these wild claims that Google steal your info, Google sell your info or Google violates your privacy. When it comes to backing it up by providing some sort of info on Google regularly violating anyones privacy, they vanish or cite the same old Safari source. (Note I dont agree with what Google did there - that was majorly out of order)
I'm fully aware that Apple provides a level of data encryption. Thats great that they do that. But there's a slight problem. Apple hold a master decryption key, so my point still stands - they could (but obviously never would) do all sorts of stuff with your data.
Source: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/0...key-when-it-comes-to-icloud-security-privacy/
And I'll repeat it again - I am not a fanboy. I've owned Macs for years, I sit here typing this on a rMBP, I own an iPhone and an iPad which I use daily. On the flip side, I own a Nexus 7 tablet for development (I write iOS and Android Apps on the side, so need a couple of devices to test apps out on).
It is possible to disagree with a companies business practices without resorting to "them vs us" - I use Google and Apple stuff daily, some of their stuff is crap, some of it is great - thats as far as it goes for me. What I dont like is when people start making claims that "Google sucks because they steal your data" or "Apple sucks because they keep Siri recordings on their servers". It's all nonsense and nothing you, I or anyone else here says will get 'real' answers, just more fud with nothing to back it up.
This is a shame and would be huge for travel. It's in the Android version, you can actually draw a box around a region you'd like cached offline. Was hoping this would come to iOS.
Google sells information, Apple sells hardware. You can rationalize it all you want, but this is how the companies make their money.
What information does sell Google?