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Greenposi0n on Sunday 10/10/10 - Not anymore thanks to GeoHot (UPDATED)

vong said:
untehtered means you can turn off your iphone without having it plugged in.

tethered means you have to have your iphone plugged into a computer or you will lose JB

edit; beat me to it ha
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AFAIK, you don't just lose the jb, you can't even used your phone.
 
maturola said:
this also mean that if Geohot's exploit is no compatible with the Apple TV them Apple tv's users will be left behind until maybe 4.2 =( very sad.
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The Apple TV has a tiny userbase. The iPhone 3GS has a huge userbase. This Limera1n release is a big win because it actually supports older devices that people use.
 
FWIW limera1n seems to be working just fine for me on my i4

I haven't run into any problems with cydia purchased apps (except displayrecorder)
 
Figures, why cant this kid get along and play nice with the rest of the Devs so the JB scene is the winner at the end?
Why does it always gotta be me me me:rolleyes:

Gimzotoy said:
That's traditional operating procedure for this guy. Look at what he "did for" the PS3 owners. He kicked off an arms race that left Sony removing features from the PS3, promised to continue working on hacking them, and then promptly packed up shop and never said another word about it.

So now the other teams are stuck rushing to implement this guy's exploit while still meeting the deadline they just set. We get to trade a coded and thoroughly tested exploit for one that's potentially-buggy rushed to market. Or, we end up waiting for geohot's exploit to become more mature.

Either way, the community suffers. I know the guy's pretty young, but from the looks of comments around the 'net it seems like people in the jailbreak scene are sick of his childish behavior. I had hoped when he left last time it'd be for good, but unfortunately that didn't work out...
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Daiden said:
The Apple TV has a tiny userbase. The iPhone 3GS has a huge userbase. This Limera1n release is a big win because it actually supports older devices that people use.
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Limera1n thankfully works with atv2 so development on a jb for it shouldn't suffer
 
So if I have a never before jailbroken 4.0.2 iPhone 4, would I still need to save the sh blobs function on tiny umbrella or go straight to to process of saving the baseband? Thx in advanced.
 
This might be a noob question, but why are people keeping their old baseband? Maybe i missed the discussion of this somewhere....

I plan to JB with limerain then when greenposi0n comes out i'll revert back and use that.
 
kilfrg7864 said:
This might be a noob question, but why are people keeping their old baseband? Maybe i missed the discussion of this somewhere....

I plan to JB with limerain then when greenposi0n comes out i'll revert back and use that.
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They want to keep the old baseband so they can unlock the phone. If you just do a straight update of 4.1, the baseband gets updated and then they can't unlock.
 
so is greenpoison for sure not going to released in 5 hours? I don't want to wait all night just for it not to happen.
 
The person who said 3GS users don't matter is clearly not a college student. I'm in an iPhone development class, so you could say we're pretty serious iPhone users, and half the class is still on 3GS.
 
Can someone please explain the following to me:

Before I had to replace imyiP4 due to a hardware defect I used Jailbreakeme.com and loved all the changes I could implement on my phone. But once I replaced my phone with a 4.1 installed OS I was back to square one. So now questions....

1. What is the big deal about today's release of JB software? A lot of hostile chatter but, what does it all mean in the long run? Why shouldn't I use it?

2. Tethered vs. untethered. I don't understand what this means with regard to a JB and why it is so important to me if I use the JB software that came out today?

3. is it 100% certain that GreenpoisOn is not happening tomorrow?

Please, no flames, I am just looking for clear cut answers and the existing tread is all over the place....Thanks!
 
elgrecomac said:
1. What is the big deal about today's release of JB software? A lot of hostile chatter but, what does it all mean in the long run? Why shouldn't I use it?

2. Tethered vs. untethered. I don't understand what this means with regard to a JB and why it is so important to me if I use the JB software that came out today?
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1. It's a big deal because today's release and the purported release for tomorrow used different exploits. Exploits are getting harder to find and it would be silly to let Apple know about both of them so they can patch them. By changing around the exploit that tomorrow's release uses, they can save the exploit for later.

2. Tethered means that to reboot your phone, you have to hook it up to your computer and run a program. This is a bad thing if you are away from your computer and you need to reboot your phone. You basically end up with a brick until the next time you sit in front of your computer.
 
elgrecomac said:
Before I had to replace imyiP4 due to a hardware defect I used Jailbreakeme.com and loved all the changes I could implement on my phone. But once I replaced my phone with a 4.1 installed OS I was back to square one. So now questions....

1. What is the big deal about today's release of JB software? A lot of hostile chatter but, what does it all mean in the long run? Why shouldn't I use it?

2. Tethered vs. untethered. I don't understand what this means with regard to a JB and why it is so important to me if I use the JB software that came out today?

3. is it 100% certain that GreenpoisOn is not happening tomorrow?

Please, no flames, I am just looking for clear cut answers and the existing tread is all over the place....Thanks!
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George Hotz, Limera1n's developer apparently wanted the attention of having been able to release the Jailbreak for iOS 4.1 before others. If GreenPois0n releases their Jailbreak two good exploits will have been released giving Apple the chance to fix them in the nice update. They're hard to find and should be treasured, considering George Hotzs has been sitting on that exploit for the past six months? Anyways, now the better jailbreak will have to be held off. A tethered Jailbreak is iffy. You'll have to plug your device into the computer whenever you restart it. That's way too inconvenient. Many claim that Limera1n is too glitchy and I wouldn't be in the least surprised if this specific release has tons of glitches because of how quickly it was pieced together. I'm not too familiar with the entire jailbreak scene, but this is what I've been able to gather so far. Please correct me anyone if I'm wrong.
 
dhy8386 said:
Limera1n thankfully works with atv2 so development on a jb for it shouldn't suffer
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Is this something you have tried or has it been comfirmed by the dev team?? I was actually more interested to see where a jailbreak for the atv2 was going to take us as opposed to a jailbreak for my iPhone 4. I'm currently jailbroke on 4.0.1 so I'm in no rush whatsoever!
 
Thank you!

Much appreciated , ulbador. Thank you.



ulbador said:
1. It's a big deal because today's release and the purported release for tomorrow used different exploits. Exploits are getting harder to find and it would be silly to let Apple know about both of them so they can patch them. By changing around the exploit that tomorrow's release uses, they can save the exploit for later.

2. Tethered means that to reboot your phone, you have to hook it up to your computer and run a program. This is a bad thing if you are away from your computer and you need to reboot your phone. You basically end up with a brick until the next time you sit in front of your computer.
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Geohot did the the right thing. Face the facts and give both sides some credit.

CDT's greenpois0n exploit doesn't apply for the new bootrom 3GS. Shatter isn't known to Apple yet, therefore they can save it for later. Shatter potentially can work with later hardware revisions, (think original bootrom 3GS versus the new bootrom 3GS). If Apple revises the current iPhone 4's bootrom, Shatter should theoretically still work. Furthermore, Shatter only works with A4 devices (iPhone 4, iPod touch 4G, iPad and the new TV ONLY). iPod touch 3G, iPhone 3GS new bootrom will not work.

On the other hand, Geohot's limera1n exploit will not survive the next bootrom. Apple already knows about it. But it does work on ALL 4.1 devices. iPhone 4, iPod touch 3G and 4G, iPhone 3GS new bootrom and iPad. It should theoretically work on the new TV too but it hasn't been tested. Geohot will also make it work for iPod touch 2G. Think about it, why waste an exploit that Apple doesn't know about, only works for A4 devices and also works for future hardware revisions (Shatter) instead of just using an exploit that works for ALL devices that can install iOS 4.1 and Apple already knows about?

I thought Geohot just wanted to get attention and all that stuff but I was wrong. Read into what MuscleNerd, Comex, p0sixninja and others have been tweeting. Geohot's exploit won't last and works for all devices. It would be a waste to not use it while you can. Shatter should be saved for later, it can work with future hardware and giving it to Apple right now is pure stupidity. Also, Shatter doesn't work for iPhone 3GS new bootrom, iPod touch 3G or 2G.

To sum it all up: Geohot's exploit has a deadline because Apple knows about it. It supports ALL devices (iPhone 4, 3Gs with new bootrom, iPod touch 2G, 3G and 4G and ipad)

Greenpois0n/Shatter is not known by Apple, has the potential to work with future hardware revisions, and only supports A4 devices.
 
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