I like to stream music too but I prefer to do it over wifi since batt life seems to be better than on 3g.
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Has AT&T done enough to keep you once VZW gets the iPhone?
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I like to stream music too but I prefer to do it over wifi since batt life seems to be better than on 3g.
That's not what I said. I said it's not ONLY geograpical. Some areas are just ignored as a business decision. I was also alluding to tower issues like you describe (that's often political, not geographical). But the person I replied to implied that all reception issues were purely geographical which is not true.
Actually it is and I've proven it by using my CDMA phones outside of the US. Not sure why you bring up a GSM chip. But to that point, CDMA/GSM chips already exist and are being used in some slim smartphones.
Why on earth would you be switching those around? But yeah, I guess you wouldn't be able to without calling CS....still not sure why you would swap them around back and forth.
Will *228 work where there is no cellular signal? Or where there is no Verizon service like the rest of the world?
There is no point in comparing the ability to swap devices on GSM compared to CDMA, it's not even in the same ball park.
uhhh say you want to use a HSPA+ capable data stick, you can put your SIM in it and use your phone's data plan.......
I'm not trying to compare. I'm trying to give people real information that they can use. You guys are trying to act like these things are completely impossible on Verizon.
I've already agreed the sim solution is superior. I've always hated that Sprint and Verizon refused to implement R/UIM. But if I have a smartphone and a dumphone on Verizon and I'm at home and want to take the dumbphone out for the night, all I need to do is dial *228. I'm guessing this takes care of a large portion of this type of phone switching. People should know it's available instead of having some AT&T fanboy dismiss it entirely.
Hope you were able to get the unlimited plan!
Good point though.I've been on the unlimited plan.....but that's not how I was going to use it. When a line frees up, was going to get an unbranded data stick and use it with 10 dollar family unlimited data.I'm not trying to compare. I'm trying to give people real information that they can use. You guys are trying to act like these things are completely impossible on Verizon.
I've already agreed the sim solution is superior. I've always hated that Sprint and Verizon refused to implement R/UIM. But if I have a smartphone and a dumphone on Verizon and I'm at home and want to take the dumbphone out for the night, all I need to do is dial *228. I'm guessing this takes care of a large portion of this type of phone switching. People should know it's available instead of having some AT&T fanboy dismiss it entirely.
Hope you were able to get the unlimited plan!
only way i'd switch is if vzw iphone plan was noticeably cheaper i have a 20% FAN discount through my university... and ATT service is great here in north texas
They don't flash vz phones according to my friend who works there. Don't know how true that is because I would take just about any phone to them to do so. Although I heard the features won't be the same.
I'm just waiting for AT&T to make me an offer I can't refuse...
NOT holding my breath, though...
NOT holding my breath, though...
Ooooh! I have second line on a family plan not really getting used. Never thought of this. So they don't push you onto a laptop plan?!? How cheap can you get the aircards for if you're buying w/ no contract?
Not really lies, when you think about it.
Okay. I'll be a bit more specific. Who in their mind is going to be comfortable with paying international roaming charges for their phone, GSM, CDMA, or otherwise? For the sake of this argument, let's make it general consumer-wise, not business. If a given carrier charges .35 per minute, are you really going to spend exactly 2 or 3 minutes on a call back home from wherever you are, just to keep charges down?
Now.. back to the alleged VZW iPhone. I'll rephrase my statement. It becomes an iPod Touch, unless you want to live with aforementioned roaming charges, when instead you can buy a sim, drop it in, and you have a working phone in the country you're in. I don't see a VZW iPhone having that functionality. I really do not.
So.. Outside of a world phone, it pretty much becomes a brick.
BL.
Not that cheap.... last I checked on Sierra's website... around $150, it goes up with the features you want.
Edit - AirCard USB308 from Sierra Wireless sets you back $210, and gives you 21.1Mb/s HSPA+ support and 5.76Mb/s HSUPA support on the 3G (UMTS, HSPA, HSPA+) 850, 1900 and 2100MHz bands.
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Me, don't talk much when I travel. I carried my CDMA Treo to several foreign countries and made a few brief calls to let my family know I was well. And for the times I did need to make a bunch of local calls, I just rented a phone. I see your point, but not everyone thinks the way you do. It may not be the best solution...but it's not a brick.
OUch...not cheap but perhaps worth considering.
But people are doing this without AT&T flagging them for using it on an aircard?
I actually *highly* disbelieve the whole "using $10 plan on a USB stick". You figure, if AT&T has a system in check to scan through data plans on correct devices (ie $20 1st Gen iPhone Plan on a 3G iPhone or not having one on any smartphone), they surely have a system to check for *huge* loops like this one.
Well, here's a link on their site about flashing phones, though it seems it's limitted to certain phones, best phone I saw from a quick glance would be the evo, and there is a driod in there so they do flash verizon as well.
http://www.metropcs.com/metroflash/
I just drove the length of Louisiana, Mississippi, PA, and NJ in the past week while streaming radio through my iPhone 3G and never once had a drop. Shrug. In fact, the dead area I found near Altoona, PA that couldn't even get Edge now has 3G. I can't believe I'm saying this considering where I stood with AT&T a year ago, but they've improved by leaps and bounds in a very short time and I'm sticking with them.
Personally, for me, AT&T hasn't been a problem. I'm not saying they have zero issues around the board but, from my experiences, everything works when I need it to do and how I need it to. Couple that with the fact that a CDMA iPhone can't even do voice/data simultaneously leads me to believe that, yes, Verizon might be "faster" but it's also a crippled faster when compared to AT&T.
What I do hope for is competition.
What I do hope for is competition.
You know, even though I won't be moving to verizon, I hope a ton of people do cause this will do 2 things. 1 free up bandwidth for me to use, and 2 get AT&T to either lower prices or roll out lte faster to remain competitive.
I have no complaints about AT&T. For those who do want to go to Verizone, go! You can only free up our bandwidth!
You can only free up our bandwidth!I had an iPhone 3G, and suffered nothing but constant dropped calls and bad coverage while living in Tucson, Phoenix, and San Antonio but I kept my phone and ATT. Then moving to wichita I would have no coverage not 3G, not edge, not anything. Needless to say this was totally unacceptable, I called ATT about it and they said tough luck nothing we can do. Switched to verizon and forgot how much I missed them. Currently stuck with a Droid Incredible but will probably just buy the iphone at full price =/.
Ive been a att customer for a long time now since the 1st gen iphone and have never had a problem with att. I do get a dropped call here and then but i really dont see it as a bid deal. Once verizon gets the iphone lets see what there network will do.
That is interesting. cuz going east on the Penn Turnpike, near Somerset is a 30 mile deadspot for me. Strange, keep a tower through the tunnels, but lose the tower on a fairly flat area.... Over by Lakehurst NAS, realized I had no signal turned off 3G and, boom, 4 bars of Edge. And, in MS, between Jackson and Meridian, there are 3 areas of around 15 to 20 miles, I can't keep a signal.
Now, back before the switch to digital, when AT&T was the "real" AT&T and analog phones, yes, there was some static, but by the almighty, if you had one bar, you could still make a phone call. But, I guess thats what I get for being old and having a memory.
Just last night my Aunt called me up because she couldnt find an address and was lost, I was able to launch google maps and quickly guide her from where she was to where she was going. Being on a call and using data at the same time is something I love too much to give up..... Of course the LTE iphone on verizon will resolve this in the future, but even then I will be sticking with AT&T
I only have my own iphone with AT&T and got in under the unlimited data plan. For me, logging into AT&T online and changing stuff around, and/or paying my bill via my phone has never been easier. I am a previous Verizon member and will not be switching back. In NJ and CT where I spend 99% of my time, I have full 100% service and never drop a call. No need for a switch.