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HomePod Firmware Suggests iPhone 8 Will Be Able to Scan Your Face Even While Device is Lying Flat
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Yes law enforcement will really like this feature. Even if someone doesn't want to unlock the phone for them to search they just need to hold it up to the person's face. It'll be very easy if they have a person they arrested handcuffed.
Let me get this straight... Apple already has all our fingerprints potentially tied to our Apple IDs. Now they are going to have our faces as well?
I mean, I know the fingerprints are encrypted and kept on the device itself but there's always the possibility....
I mean, I know the fingerprints are encrypted and kept on the device itself but there's always the possibility....
The power button is much larger so it could be there.
Apple has brought features back that customers complained about loosing before.
What if it requires a gesture like blinking your eyes?
It could also use risk analysis to evaluate other factors than your face (geolocation, typical usage patterns, whether the device has been set down, etc.). Come up with a score and decide whether to authenticate.
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someone explain why people are so angry about touchID going away?
you never had it a few years ago. technology changes.
promise you wont miss it in a few days after owning the iphone 8
you never had it a few years ago. technology changes.
promise you wont miss it in a few days after owning the iphone 8
All I know is... that the iPhone 8 will fundamentally change how I use this phone. People were mad at no more slide to unlock. Now. No more Touch ID and no no more home button.
So when our girlfriends/boyfriends are trying to snoop on our phones... instead of covering my fingerprints I gotta cover my face? I might have to go full burka around the house.
CALLED IT!!
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Why would you need to see your phone at that point? If you use your current phone this way nothing happens either.
The issue for me is one of the ability to refuse to unlock a phone.
I can, to some extent, refuse to put my finger on something. I mean, I can be held down and forced, but it would require a certain amount of violence to get done. I can also lie about which finger it is until the number of attempts has been used up.
It a lot easier to hold up a phone to my face, against my will, and unlock it. There isn't much I can do to refuse that.
I can, to some extent, refuse to put my finger on something. I mean, I can be held down and forced, but it would require a certain amount of violence to get done. I can also lie about which finger it is until the number of attempts has been used up.
It a lot easier to hold up a phone to my face, against my will, and unlock it. There isn't much I can do to refuse that.
You realize there is a home button in the sense of its functionality right? You can't remove home Button functionality. It's how you use the device.
Not sure it will be able to lay flat because Apple loves the nasty camera bump.
I will absolutely NOT buy the iPhone 8 if it does not have a touch id, I hate touch id at the back and i hate touch id on the power button but I'm willing to buy it if they include touch id, i don't care where they put it, if it has a touch id i will buy it if not then I'm willing to wait till next year my 6s is working perfectly.
I don't really mind about 'Face ID' being an option, so long as some kind of user action is required to scan for the face.
What I really don't want is every new smartphone scanning every person's face that gets near enough to it all the time, just in case it is the owner wanting the phone unlocked. That would be beyond creepy and open to abuse by trackers, advertisers, governments and allsorts... more than already.
This is what I also hate about social media and geotagging... it removes choice and consent from the individual and often makes the choice for others who may not even be aware of the choice they have been deprived of. It is wrong, IMHO. So I hope Apple have considered that, though I fear even if they have, others will not, or will not care.
What I really don't want is every new smartphone scanning every person's face that gets near enough to it all the time, just in case it is the owner wanting the phone unlocked. That would be beyond creepy and open to abuse by trackers, advertisers, governments and allsorts... more than already.
This is what I also hate about social media and geotagging... it removes choice and consent from the individual and often makes the choice for others who may not even be aware of the choice they have been deprived of. It is wrong, IMHO. So I hope Apple have considered that, though I fear even if they have, others will not, or will not care.
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Apple seems to have put a lot of work into making Face ID versatile and able to work in as many situations as possible. This only worries me that there won't be any Touch ID on the iPhone 8...