No they don’t. My cousin husband still has a S6 and the screen still looks great with no burn in or yellowing. My girlfriends sister has a S7 edge coming on 3 years old and the screen still looks better than any lcd iphone to date i have seen. This burn in issue is a rediculous argument
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iPhone XR How much sharper is the XS display compared to the XR?
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It's probably a defective unit. Did you read how they had only had the phone for one month?!
I'm not worried about life span. Some people still have older OLED phones and they're doing just fine.
Tests on the iPhones showed that they are much less susceptible to these issues.
Side note though, my eyes are burning now that we are going through these discussions. Like I just swam in heavily chlorinated water.
If you are serious it’s probably pwm flickering. XR much easier on the eyes.
For some it seems like it might not be:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/eye-strain-on-iphonexr.2150554/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/xr-color-shift-blurry-fonts.2152449/
I’m glad to say my Max came with perfect uniformity and good viewing angles. Displaymate are fairly spot on because comparing to different phones my eyes tell me it’s the best screen i have seen.
Good for you! I'm hoping that what I see is just a bad batch that will be flushed out of the system soon. But at the same time it should not have happened in the first place, the quality should be consistent and not depend on luck. Pretty disappointed with apple...
How much shaper is the Xs compared to the Xr. I think everyone has to see for themselves and decide which is the better value for them. Personally I've been down the comparison road a few times now and I've been told I must be blind not to see the HUGE difference between the OLED Xs or Xs Max vs the Xr. I've heard the Xr has fuzzy text, the colors are washed out and doesn't do blacks very well they look grey. Sorry, but I call BS on all of that, but hell maybe I am blind. Bottom line for me is that in my comparison while the OLED has better contrast and perhaps a tad bit more vivid colors and of course the rich blacks. I just don't think it was convincingly better than the Xr that I wanted to drop some extra cash on it.
You know at the end of the day, we each pick whichever device we see value in. Well most of us, I do think they're some on this forum that just go for specs and believe those regardless. I am happy with the choice I made and I am happy with the choice everyone else made/makes for themselves and nothing anyone in this forum says is going to change that one iota. I will say this if some of you have super vision or vision that you can see I huge difference, I am damn glad I don't!
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I don't disagree and I've had two Xs Max's and both of them had perfectly uniformity and the viewing angles were fine. It's good that you've got the phone you want and you are satisfied and happy. Congrats!
You know at the end of the day, we each pick whichever device we see value in. Well most of us, I do think they're some on this forum that just go for specs and believe those regardless. I am happy with the choice I made and I am happy with the choice everyone else made/makes for themselves and nothing anyone in this forum says is going to change that one iota. I will say this if some of you have super vision or vision that you can see I huge difference, I am damn glad I don't!
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I don't disagree and I've had two Xs Max's and both of them had perfectly uniformity and the viewing angles were fine. It's good that you've got the phone you want and you are satisfied and happy. Congrats!
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You know at the end of the day, we each pick whichever device we see value in. Well most of us, I do think they're some on this forum that just go for specs and believe those regardless. I am happy with the choice I made and I am happy with the choice everyone else made/makes for themselves and nothing anyone in this forum says is going to change that one iota. I will say this if some of you have super vision or vision that you can see I huge difference, I am damn glad I don't!
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Well said. I've noticed these threads regularly devolve into shouting matches, where defenders of each model loudly declare they made the right choice, and everyone else made the wrong choice. I don't really understand that mentality...there's no reason for XS fans to decry the "horrible" XR display, just like XR fans needn't mock XS buyers for spending so much money on a similar device.
I feel like the shouting wasn't as loud when we only had standard and Plus models to choose from. But now that we have a legitimate choice between three excellent options, people are flying off the handle in defense of their personal selection. There's no right/wrong answer, folks. Pick the model that's right for you, for your eyes and your wallet, and accept that your fellow MR denizens are making the best choices for themselves. Live and let live.
It's been a while, but I believe there was some of that. I recall some new 6+ owners lauding their 1080p displays, saying they could never go back to the old 5/4 resolution. But I don't think it was a widespread sentiment, and I don't remember a whole lot of argument on the subject. Though maybe I'm just forgetting.
At minimum, I think I can safely say there was nowhere near as much salt as I've been seeing around here recently. Most rage/salt was reserved for the perpetual iOS vs Android arguments. Those will never end.
I think you are right, but it's the time in which we are living... it seems that people these days argue about everything. When it comes to these phones, just buy what you want and having a discussion about it is fine, but the mine is better than yours mentality it just makes no sense.
I went through six Xs Max before giving up. Four were perfectly uniform, two had minimal colour shift, but all had very warm screens and issues with signal strength. They also all had very noticeable PWM. Although I prefer Apple and iOS, I also own the S9+ and the Note 9 (and a number of other phones) - neither have the colour shifting of the iPhone Xs Max and the PWM was less of an issue for me. When viewing images and videos, the colours on the Xs Max do appear more accurate than those on the S9+ and Note 9, which I find to be a little too blue (and I don't mean cool). When viewing webpages, the colours on the Xs Max do not seem accurate. Placing a 'layer' over the Xs Max screen using the display accommodations is not a 'fix' (this is actually a terrible idea).
I have a degree in multimedia/graphic design, and have worked in this industry for twenty years, so I am more than familiar with how colour, screen temperature, and screen calibration works (I am by no means saying I am an 'expert'). I am also very pedantic when it comes to the screens in my devices since that is what you spend the most time looking at. I have no issue with my 2018 MacBook Pro - it is the best and most most accurate screen of any MacBook Pro I have owned. I also have an iMac with no issues.
Yes, OLED is a superior technology to LCD with better blacks, colours and contrast (I am talking about the technology in general here, not just phone screens). However, (for ME) I don't believe that the OLED screens in the Xs series are the best from the devices I have tried. A persons view is very subjective on this (for example, many will disagree on this point with me). If you got a 'perfect' screen (which few do actually exist), then you are one of the lucky few and if that were me, I would be holding on to it!
If the issues with the Xs screens are not a problem for the majority of people, then that is great if they are happy with the device. However, for a number of people, the issues do exist, and as someone who is sensitive to PWM, I cannot use the Xs Max without getting headaches, blurry vision and feelings of nausea. I even went and had my eyes tested last week (which were fine). The weird thing is, I never had this issue with my iPhone X, which unfortunately I no longer own.
In the end I have settled on the Xr. Yes, the 'resolution' is lower, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is that the PPI also needs to be taken into consideration. A lot of people seem to be making comments without fully understanding the technology (not just in this thread, in general). Does the iPhone Xr look as 'pretty' as the Xs iPhones? Hell no! The bezel on the Xr is more noticeable, the fonts are sharper on the Xs at closer viewing distance, the colours and contrast are superior, and the rear camera is preferable (we now have the Halide app for portrait photos on the Xr). The three Xr I have used have had a very small colour shift - but not to the extent of the Xs. The Xr screens I have seen do not exhibit the warmth present on the Xs Max (I am not saying the Xr screen is cool, because it is not).
Would I pick the Xs Max over the Xr if there were no issues with PWM, the warm screen and poor viewing angles, and low signal quality? YES, in a heartbeat. But the reality is, that is not going to happen for ME, the screen on the Xr is just much easier on my eyes. So, although I can more than afford the iPhone Xs Max, I cannot compromise on the issues that are important to ME - and so the Xr is the choice for me at this time. Will I try again next year when Apple releases their 2019 iPhones? Of course.
To answer the OP - yes, the screen on the Xs does appear to be much sharper than that of the Xs. It is mostly noticeable when viewing text at a closer distance - and you will see the difference if you have the two handsets side by side. I think Apple have done a great job with the screen in the Xr, but for anyone deciding between the Xr and Xs - they should view both in person.
At the end of the day, it is just a phone and there are other issues more significant in life.
I have a degree in multimedia/graphic design, and have worked in this industry for twenty years, so I am more than familiar with how colour, screen temperature, and screen calibration works (I am by no means saying I am an 'expert'). I am also very pedantic when it comes to the screens in my devices since that is what you spend the most time looking at. I have no issue with my 2018 MacBook Pro - it is the best and most most accurate screen of any MacBook Pro I have owned. I also have an iMac with no issues.
Yes, OLED is a superior technology to LCD with better blacks, colours and contrast (I am talking about the technology in general here, not just phone screens). However, (for ME) I don't believe that the OLED screens in the Xs series are the best from the devices I have tried. A persons view is very subjective on this (for example, many will disagree on this point with me). If you got a 'perfect' screen (which few do actually exist), then you are one of the lucky few and if that were me, I would be holding on to it!
If the issues with the Xs screens are not a problem for the majority of people, then that is great if they are happy with the device. However, for a number of people, the issues do exist, and as someone who is sensitive to PWM, I cannot use the Xs Max without getting headaches, blurry vision and feelings of nausea. I even went and had my eyes tested last week (which were fine). The weird thing is, I never had this issue with my iPhone X, which unfortunately I no longer own.
In the end I have settled on the Xr. Yes, the 'resolution' is lower, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is that the PPI also needs to be taken into consideration. A lot of people seem to be making comments without fully understanding the technology (not just in this thread, in general). Does the iPhone Xr look as 'pretty' as the Xs iPhones? Hell no! The bezel on the Xr is more noticeable, the fonts are sharper on the Xs at closer viewing distance, the colours and contrast are superior, and the rear camera is preferable (we now have the Halide app for portrait photos on the Xr). The three Xr I have used have had a very small colour shift - but not to the extent of the Xs. The Xr screens I have seen do not exhibit the warmth present on the Xs Max (I am not saying the Xr screen is cool, because it is not).
Would I pick the Xs Max over the Xr if there were no issues with PWM, the warm screen and poor viewing angles, and low signal quality? YES, in a heartbeat. But the reality is, that is not going to happen for ME, the screen on the Xr is just much easier on my eyes. So, although I can more than afford the iPhone Xs Max, I cannot compromise on the issues that are important to ME - and so the Xr is the choice for me at this time. Will I try again next year when Apple releases their 2019 iPhones? Of course.
To answer the OP - yes, the screen on the Xs does appear to be much sharper than that of the Xs. It is mostly noticeable when viewing text at a closer distance - and you will see the difference if you have the two handsets side by side. I think Apple have done a great job with the screen in the Xr, but for anyone deciding between the Xr and Xs - they should view both in person.
At the end of the day, it is just a phone and there are other issues more significant in life.
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I went through six Xs Max before giving up. Four were perfectly uniform, two had minimal colour shift, but all had very warm screens and issues with signal strength. They also all had very noticeable PWM. Although I prefer Apple and iOS, I also own the S9+ and the Note 9 (and a number of other phones) - neither have the colour shifting of the iPhone Xs Max and the PWM was less of an issue for me. When viewing images and videos, the colours on the Xs Max do appear more accurate than those on the S9+ and Note 9, which I find to be a little to blue (and I don't mean cool). When viewing webpages, the colours on the Xs Max do not seem accurate. Placing a 'layer' over the Xs Max screen using the display accommodations is not a 'fix' (this is actually a terrible idea).
I have a degree in multimedia/graphic design, and have worked in this industry for twenty years, so I am more than familiar with how colour and screen calibration works (I am by no means saying I am an 'expert'). I am also very pedantic when it comes to the screens in my devices since that is what you spend the most time looking at. I have no issue with my 2018 MacBook Pro - it is the best and most most accurate screen of any MacBook Pro I have owned. I also have an iMac with no issues.
Yes, OLED is a superior technology to LCD with better blacks, colours and contrast (I am talking about the technology in general here, not just phone screens). However, (for ME) I don't believe that the OLED screens in the Xs series are the best from the devices I have tried. A persons view is very subjective on this (for example, many will disagree on this point with me). If you got a 'perfect' screen (which few do actually exist), then you are one of the lucky few and if that were me, I would be holding on to it!
If the issues with the Xs screens are not a problem for the majority of people, then that is great if they are happy with the device. However, for a number of people, the issues do exist, and as someone who is sensitive to PWM, I cannot use the Xs Max without getting headaches, blurry vision and feelings of nausea. I even went and had my eyes tested last week (which were fine). The weird thing is, I never had this issue with my iPhone X, which unfortunately I no longer own.
In the end I have settled on the Xr. Yes, the 'resolution' is lower, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is that the PPI also needs to be taken into consideration. A lot of people seem to be making comments without fully understanding the technology (not just in this thread, in general). Does the iPhone Xr look as 'pretty' as the Xs iPhones? Hell no! The bezel on the Xr is more noticeable, the fonts are smoother and sharper on the Xs at closer viewing distance, the colours and contrast are superior, and the rear camera is more preferable (at least we have the Halide app for portrait photos on the Xr). The three Xr I have used have had a very small colour shift - but not to the extent of the Xs.
Would I pick the Xs Max over the Xr if there were no issues with PWM, the warm screen and poor viewing angles, and low signal quality? YES, in a heartbeat. But the reality is, that is not going to happen for me, the screen on the Xr is just much easier on my eyes. So, although I can more than afford the iPhone Xs Max, I cannot compromise on the issues that are important to ME - and so the Xr is the choice for me at this time. Will I try again next year when Apple releases their 2019 iPhones? Of course.
I think for anyone deciding between the Xr and Xs - they should view both in person before making any judgements about the devices and definitely spend some time with both before making the decision to purchase. At the end of the day, it is just a phone and there are other issues more significant in life.
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I went through six Xs Max before giving up. Four were perfectly uniform, two had minimal colour shift, but all had very warm screens and issues with signal strength. They also all had very noticeable PWM. Although I prefer Apple and iOS, I also own the S9+ and the Note 9 (and a number of other phones) - neither have the colour shifting of the iPhone Xs Max and the PWM was less of an issue for me. When viewing images and videos, the colours on the Xs Max do appear more accurate than those on the S9+ and Note 9, which I find to be a little too blue (and I don't mean cool). When viewing webpages, the colours on the Xs Max do not seem accurate. Placing a 'layer' over the Xs Max screen using the display accommodations is not a 'fix' (this is actually a terrible idea).
I have a degree in multimedia/graphic design, and have worked in this industry for twenty years, so I am more than familiar with how colour, screen temperature, and screen calibration works (I am by no means saying I am an 'expert'). I am also very pedantic when it comes to the screens in my devices since that is what you spend the most time looking at. I have no issue with my 2018 MacBook Pro - it is the best and most most accurate screen of any MacBook Pro I have owned. I also have an iMac with no issues.
Yes, OLED is a superior technology to LCD with better blacks, colours and contrast (I am talking about the technology in general here, not just phone screens). However, (for ME) I don't believe that the OLED screens in the Xs series are the best from the devices I have tried. A persons view is very subjective on this (for example, many will disagree on this point with me). If you got a 'perfect' screen (which few do actually exist), then you are one of the lucky few and if that were me, I would be holding on to it!
If the issues with the Xs screens are not a problem for the majority of people, then that is great if they are happy with the device. However, for a number of people, the issues do exist, and as someone who is sensitive to PWM, I cannot use the Xs Max without getting headaches, blurry vision and feelings of nausea. I even went and had my eyes tested last week (which were fine). The weird thing is, I never had this issue with my iPhone X, which unfortunately I no longer own.
In the end I have settled on the Xr. Yes, the 'resolution' is lower, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is that the PPI also needs to be taken into consideration. A lot of people seem to be making comments without fully understanding the technology (not just in this thread, in general). Does the iPhone Xr look as 'pretty' as the Xs iPhones? Hell no! The bezel on the Xr is more noticeable, the fonts are sharper on the Xs at closer viewing distance, the colours and contrast are superior, and the rear camera is preferable (we now have the Halide app for portrait photos on the Xr). The three Xr I have used have had a very small colour shift - but not to the extent of the Xs. The Xr screens I have seen do not exhibit the warmth present on the Xs Max (I am not saying the Xr screen is cool, because it is not).
Would I pick the Xs Max over the Xr if there were no issues with PWM, the warm screen and poor viewing angles, and low signal quality? YES, in a heartbeat. But the reality is, that is not going to happen for ME, the screen on the Xr is just much easier on my eyes. So, although I can more than afford the iPhone Xs Max, I cannot compromise on the issues that are important to ME - and so the Xr is the choice for me at this time. Will I try again next year when Apple releases their 2019 iPhones? Of course.
To answer the OP - yes, the screen on the Xs does appear to be much sharper than that of the Xs. It is mostly noticeable when viewing text at a closer distance - and you will see the difference if you have the two handsets side by side. I think Apple have done a great job with the screen in the Xr, but for anyone deciding between the Xr and Xs - they should view both in person.
At the end of the day, it is just a phone and there are other issues more significant in life.
All I can say is you said that much better than I ever could! 100% agree!!
Yes definitely I also view iPad from distance.
I read your entire post (I'm just addressing this part), and you provided some great insight.
One problem really does come down to quality control. Even one guy on Youtube had a Max come in with 3 good size scratches but the screen was a cooler temp than his replacement which was too warm. It's crazy how they aren't consistently manufactured.
why do any research? Because no matter what my eyes tell me or what I read you’ll tell me I’m only lying to myself
why do any research? Because no matter what my eyes tell me or what I read you’ll tell me I’m only lying to myself
Yep you do, huh? /s Every review site has OLEDs as their best picture displays.
Take CNET for example...OLED TV's are their top picture quality picks.
Nah they are all lying to themselves and anything they can’t see is because they have defective eyes.
Ah that’s a pity about your eyes.I went through six Xs Max before giving up. Four were perfectly uniform, two had minimal colour shift, but all had very warm screens and issues with signal strength. They also all had very noticeable PWM. Although I prefer Apple and iOS, I also own the S9+ and the Note 9 (and a number of other phones) - neither have the colour shifting of the iPhone Xs Max and the PWM was less of an issue for me. When viewing images and videos, the colours on the Xs Max do appear more accurate than those on the S9+ and Note 9, which I find to be a little too blue (and I don't mean cool). When viewing webpages, the colours on the Xs Max do not seem accurate. Placing a 'layer' over the Xs Max screen using the display accommodations is not a 'fix' (this is actually a terrible idea).
I have a degree in multimedia/graphic design, and have worked in this industry for twenty years, so I am more than familiar with how colour, screen temperature, and screen calibration works (I am by no means saying I am an 'expert'). I am also very pedantic when it comes to the screens in my devices since that is what you spend the most time looking at. I have no issue with my 2018 MacBook Pro - it is the best and most most accurate screen of any MacBook Pro I have owned. I also have an iMac with no issues.
Yes, OLED is a superior technology to LCD with better blacks, colours and contrast (I am talking about the technology in general here, not just phone screens). However, (for ME) I don't believe that the OLED screens in the Xs series are the best from the devices I have tried. A persons view is very subjective on this (for example, many will disagree on this point with me). If you got a 'perfect' screen (which few do actually exist), then you are one of the lucky few and if that were me, I would be holding on to it!
If the issues with the Xs screens are not a problem for the majority of people, then that is great if they are happy with the device. However, for a number of people, the issues do exist, and as someone who is sensitive to PWM, I cannot use the Xs Max without getting headaches, blurry vision and feelings of nausea. I even went and had my eyes tested last week (which were fine). The weird thing is, I never had this issue with my iPhone X, which unfortunately I no longer own.
In the end I have settled on the Xr. Yes, the 'resolution' is lower, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is that the PPI also needs to be taken into consideration. A lot of people seem to be making comments without fully understanding the technology (not just in this thread, in general). Does the iPhone Xr look as 'pretty' as the Xs iPhones? Hell no! The bezel on the Xr is more noticeable, the fonts are sharper on the Xs at closer viewing distance, the colours and contrast are superior, and the rear camera is preferable (we now have the Halide app for portrait photos on the Xr). The three Xr I have used have had a very small colour shift - but not to the extent of the Xs. The Xr screens I have seen do not exhibit the warmth present on the Xs Max (I am not saying the Xr screen is cool, because it is not).
Would I pick the Xs Max over the Xr if there were no issues with PWM, the warm screen and poor viewing angles, and low signal quality? YES, in a heartbeat. But the reality is, that is not going to happen for ME, the screen on the Xr is just much easier on my eyes. So, although I can more than afford the iPhone Xs Max, I cannot compromise on the issues that are important to ME - and so the Xr is the choice for me at this time. Will I try again next year when Apple releases their 2019 iPhones? Of course.
To answer the OP - yes, the screen on the Xs does appear to be much sharper than that of the Xs. It is mostly noticeable when viewing text at a closer distance - and you will see the difference if you have the two handsets side by side. I think Apple have done a great job with the screen in the Xr, but for anyone deciding between the Xr and Xs - they should view both in person.
At the end of the day, it is just a phone and there are other issues more significant in life.
Well fortunately for me i don’t have any of your eye issues including pwm or whatever it’s called and all i see is a crisper higher resolution beautiful screen with absolute gorgeous HDR 1080p videos. After viewing the XR screen unfortunately it’s a no go for me. Even the xr wifi symbol looks blocky for some reason.
P.s i have no problem with signal on my max, i believe a software update sorted that. Against my note 9 and other devices i get the same signal quality, maybe it’s a usa thing.
I don’t have any issues with my eyes. I had them tested last week, but thanks for your concern.
I’m actually located in Australia, on the Telstra network (largest in Australia). I can put my Note 9, S9+, Xr and the Xs Max (before returning) beside each other (all with Telstra SIM cards) and the Xs Max will have the lowest signal. I have been in discussions with both Apple and my carrier and been involved in carrier testing with the Xs Max - iOS 12.1 didn’t resolve my issues. There is a reason why no iPhone has been certified ‘blue tick’ on my carrier since the 8, yet both the Note 9 and S9+ are - but that’s all irrelevant to this discussion (there is a huge discussion on Whirlpool about this if you are actually interested). It will be interesting when my Pixel 3 arrives!
It’s great you got a fantastic phone. I’ve never said the Xs wasn’t great - it was my first choice, but unfortunately it’s just not for me. Everyone should just enjoy the phone they choose.