HP Preps 'PalmPad' for CES 2011 Debut

[*LTD*]

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Palm "pad"?

I smell what Apple's lawyers will smell: trademark infringement. Whether or not it's a stretch, someone there in Cupertino will bring it up and ride it.

 

[NebulaClash]

Provided iPad users spent $99 for an Apple TV.

Yes, that is true but cables cost money too (albeit not as much), but this is 21st century and I hope we are moving beyond cables. With everything else HP is copying from the iPad, you'd think they'd develop a wireless method of transferring data from their tablet to a monitor. Cables nowadays are old tech.

 

[ouimetnick]

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Palm "pad"?

I smell what Apple's lawyers will smell: trademark infringement. Whether or not it's a stretch, someone there in Cupertino will bring it up and ride it.

Wow. Then Apple should waste more money and sue all the companies that use Pad in their products. You know the things girls use? Why did the makers of their "pads" sue Apple?

 

[res1233]

The only issue is, if this has HDMI and USB3, its battery life is probably going to suck... Plus the camera.

 

[ouimetnick]

Yes, that is true but cables cost money too (albeit not as much), but this is 21st century and I hope we are moving beyond cables. With everything else HP is copying from the iPad, you'd think they'd develop a wireless method of transferring data from their tablet to a monitor. Cables nowadays are old tech.

True, but I would rather spend $9 on a cable instead of $99 on an Apple TV to play content off my iPad (I don't have an iPad).

I do have the new 2nd gen Apple TV, and love it, but I don't use it for AirPlay.

 

[Bytor65]

Did anyone else notice that this is essentially the HP Slate 500 with a different OS.

The fox page even says the "university" model has an 8.9" screen, which is the same as the windows slate and the drawings here look exactly like the windows slate.

The "exclusive image" on the fox page is identical to the first page of the HP slate 500 manual:
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13658_na/13658_na.pdf

 

[petvas]

WebOS is perfect for tablet devices. Multitasking using the card interface on a tablet! Imagine that!
HP needs great hardware to make this great OS interesting to people. If that could happen, then the iPad will have the first serious competitor. Those of you who have used a WebOS device will know what I am talking about. The OS is one of the best available, the problem is the bad hardware...I am very interested to see how the Palmpad while shape, and above all how it will compare to the iPad 2.

 

[SvenSvenson]

USB 3.0?

Why? And I very much doubt it.

Also, 1.3 MP and 3.0 MP camera front and back both with flash?

Am I missing something here? What would you use a flash for on the front camera? Other than to blind yourself?

As a light for video calling...

Steve

 

[NebulaClash]

True, but I would rather spend $9 on a cable instead of $99 on an Apple TV to play content off my iPad (I don't have an iPad).

I do have the new 2nd gen Apple TV, and love it, but I don't use it for AirPlay.

It's so much nicer to use AirPlay. You control the video from the iPad and you just watch the movie on the TV. It's a great separation of functionality that is so perfect for the business world it's ridiculous to do it any other way. A person can give a presentation by manipulating slides on the iPad that show up on the monitor that everyone is looking at. But only he sees the notes on the iPad, for instance.

To tie your machine down with cables is common and cheap, but it's so much nicer to do something like AirPlay. And with 3rd-party apps creating AirPlay-like functionality, I'm sure HP can get something like that for their tablet.

 

[Stella]

Why does this thing have to be labelled an "iPad killer" in the first place? Giving labels "i<something> killer" is really tiresome.

The iPad is not 'one size fits all'....

"Just use AirPlay?"... not everyone wants to be apart of the iEcosystem!

 

[ValSalva]

This has all the ingredients of the Palm Pre and will probably end up going the same way: introduced at CES, takes too long to come to market, and dies six months later.

 

[sswanky]

Really, I just don't see success happening with anything "Palm" related. It's a dead brand to me.

 

[alent1234]

it's the software, stupid

at this point unless the only thing you want is web access the iPad is it. just because of the software library

 

[nwcs]

"Just use AirPlay?"... not everyone wants to be apart of the iEcosystem!

My understanding is that Apple is letting anyone use AirPlay streaming in their devices which is why multiple AirPlay speakers are being announced and, allegedly, multiple products are going to be announced at CES that's compatible. It's not a stretch to hope that as more AirPlay compatible products are available that it can become a defacto norm and replacement for a tethered connection.

 

[alent1234]

Did anyone else notice that this is essentially the HP Slate 500 with a different OS.

The fox page even says the "university" model has an 8.9" screen, which is the same as the windows slate and the drawings here look exactly like the windows slate.

The "exclusive image" on the fox page is identical to the first page of the HP slate 500 manual:
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13658_na/13658_na.pdf

iphones and android phones are all essentially the same hardware and software. ARM based CPU's, PowerVR graphics, ^nix OS. big difference is android is java like and iphone is C++ for native apps

same with tablets. a lot are going to use Tegra 2 which is another ARM CPU. the A4 is a slightly modified Samsung ARM CPU.

 

[kdarling]

Palm "pad"?

I smell what Apple's lawyers will smell: trademark infringement. Whether or not it's a stretch, someone there in Cupertino will bring it up and ride it.

HP filed for "PalmPad" back in July. Apple hasn't said a peep for the past six months.

("PalmPad" was also trademarked back in 1993 for an electronic writing surface.)

 

[SeanMcg]

My understanding is that Apple is letting anyone use AirPlay streaming in their devices which is why multiple AirPlay speakers are being announced and, allegedly, multiple products are going to be announced at CES that's compatible. It's not a stretch to hope that as more AirPlay compatible products are available that it can become a defacto norm and replacement for a tethered connection.

I'd also be interested to know if Apple is going to support networked projectors outside of Airplay. It seems to me that the ability to hook up to the new generation of networked projectors would be a big plus for any iOS device.

 

[roadbloc]

Bring on the competition. Let's see if they can make Apple squirm.
I'm looking forward to the Tablet wars. The Galaxy Tab already appears to be gaining support off consumers. Things are going to get interesting and possibly messy...

 

[alent1234]

Nothing like a catchy subject line to grab the attention...Anyway, the PalmPad may amount to something, but not in 2011. And any company that has to rely on the CES for market penetration has already lost out.

So what's REALLY going to happen in January? First off, Stevie J, who can command his own stage and simply blow off the CES, will announce a second gen iPad on either January 18 or 25, with delivery to consumers on Friday, April 1. And then he's going to make a play for the entire ereader market by cutting the base iPad price to $379-399 and taking Amazon's Kindle DX head-on. The DX is SO dated, and the entire ereader market is easy pickin's. Stevie just won't be able to resist.

But remember, there's MORE!! Splashy is in. Steve LOVES splashy, especially when he's doing the talking, so bet on some January razzle-dazzle that goes beyond the routine market murmurings to date. Exactly what? Remember, Apple is so secretive that the NSA looks like the NYT in comparison, but maybe something like an iOS 5.0 announcement. Or real-time 3-D geo positioning with the voice of your choice...

Plan on another ball in 2011, boys and girls. Stevie didn't merely create the tablet market, he wants it ALL and is going to keep doing slam-dunks just as long as he can. 2010 was just a taste.

for the almost 2 years in using apple products, apple is not secretive. their PR people use "leaks" but by the time a product comes out everyone knows almost everything about it. just like the iPad.

with the iPhone and the app store they copied Sony circa 1999 and flooded the app store to get ahead of the competition

the mobile market is more like game consoles than PC's. you can switch and you don't lose your software. it's hard to get a monopoly and keep it unlike in the computer market

 

[paul4339]

If an iPad was that cheap, they why buy a $399 64 GB iPod touch? Same price gets you a 16GB GIANT iPod touch.

probably because it's hard to squeeze an iPad into your jean pocket.
just kidding, i agree, lowering the iPad to $399 to squeeze the kindle is rather low ... however, that doesn't mean that they can't have a gimped 8 GB version of the iPad 1 for $399, after release of the iPad 2.

(just like they kept the iPhone 3GS alive after the iPhone 4 came out)



P.

 

[MacSignal]

Cool! Something else that ISN'T THE BEST.

LOL! Competition is good.

 

[InsightsIE]

a palmpad sounds terrible, worst than ipad

 

[Thunderhawks]

USB 3.0?

Why? And I very much doubt it.

Also, 1.3 MP and 3.0 MP camera front and back both with flash?

Am I missing something here? What would you use a flash for on the front camera? Other than to blind yourself?

That model is for the Polish market!

 

[suss2it]

1.3MP and 3.0MP cameras? Why even add cameras? It's going to look like a 1995 cell phone picture.

Cellphones didn't have cameras in '95...

 

[sinsin07]

Can someone help me here, why HDMI? Airplay works well and I don't have to have the iPad tethered, and can use it as a remote. Apple TV travels well and works with my iPhone, iPad, and my kids iPods...(yes I actually have all 3). Even my 8 year old loves using the iPad on the big screen.

Its easy to use, involves minimal setup and the whole family can figure it out and I can run optical out to my home theatre.

So why do I want HDMI again?

So you can wave a checklist at reporters and say "We got this and iPad does not!"

And no, nobody else will miss it either. While HP tablet users will lug their tablets over the the TV and plug it in, iPad users will just flick their videos wirelessly while sipping a cool beverage.

Consumers may not need it but it is a bullet point that will intrigue people who are swayed by bullet points. Just like megapixels on a camera. They ceased to be a useful measure of quality many years ago but people still focus on them.

For the above, think beyond your living room. Every feature is not meant for every person. How many people do you see with ipod's, iTouch or iphones using the standard head phones that came with the device, even though stereo bluetooth is available. HDMI can be useful in the Corporate Boardroom/Conference room for presentations.

The PalmPad will be running WebOS. I've used WebOS, and I myself am impressed with it. I prefer iOS, but WebOD isn't that bad. So I give a d*** about what HP brings out. No need to be pissed off that HP is releasing a competitor to the iPad. Competition is a good thing.

It would appear that HP has their sights on the bigger picture for webos, as evidence by the 6 purchases they made this year:
HP, the dark horse of 2010

Of course, how successful their plan will be has yet to be seen.