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Engadget is now saying that this rumor might not be accurate. The picture is from the HP Slate and according to Engadget's sources, HP wont have a string presence at CES. If that is true, I don't see them announcing a new tablet any time soon.
 
MS Is Driving Technology Forward....Well....er....um

The new MS "Universe Pad" (had to top "Galaxy") will be just like the Zune, a product that defines MS as a technological...er...as a tech.....well, you know what I mean.
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Yes, that is true but cables cost money too (albeit not as much), but this is 21st century and I hope we are moving beyond cables. With everything else HP is copying from the iPad, you'd think they'd develop a wireless method of transferring data from their tablet to a monitor. Cables nowadays are old tech.

From the company whose high end phone can't sync wirelessly with a computer. Clearly Apple haven't got the news either that we are supposed to be moving beyond cables since their phones are still slaves to the USB cable. Come on, either criticise Apple and HP in equal measure for necessitating the use of cables, or criticise neither. You look totally unbalanced otherwise.
 
From the company whose high end phone can't sync wirelessly with a computer. Clearly Apple haven't got the news either that we are supposed to be moving beyond cables since their phones are still slaves to the USB cable. Come on, either criticise Apple and HP in equal measure for necessitating the use of cables, or criticise neither. You look totally unbalanced otherwise.

Good point. In the rush to bash they seem to forget.
 
From the company whose high end phone can't sync wirelessly with a computer. Clearly Apple haven't got the news either that we are supposed to be moving beyond cables since their phones are still slaves to the USB cable. Come on, either criticise Apple and HP in equal measure for necessitating the use of cables, or criticise neither. You look totally unbalanced otherwise.

Hmmm... mobileme syncs important stuff (in particular calendar changes, etc) wirelessly.

Are you seriously saying you want to sync your iPad's 64Gb worth of music, movies etc over bluetooth or 3G? Even over WIFI it would be slow. Not to mention draining the iOS device battery.
 
Can someone help me here, why HDMI? Airplay works well and I don't have to have the iPad tethered, and can use it as a remote. Apple TV travels well and works with my iPhone, iPad, and my kids iPods...(yes I actually have all 3). Even my 8 year old loves using the iPad on the big screen.

Its easy to use, involves minimal setup and the whole family can figure it out and I can run optical out to my home theatre.

So why do I want HDMI again?

Because it's actually meant to be a PORTABLE device?

AirPlay actually is something, that is lost on me. Why do I need it? I mean, AFAIC the files on the Pods and Pads are synced with my computer. Why not stream from the computer directly?

Just asking...I use Connect360 on my computer and I think Kinect runs circles around your average "Remote App" :D So I don'T count as fair comparison. :)
 
Hmmm... mobileme syncs important stuff (in particular calendar changes, etc) wirelessly.

Are you seriously saying you want to sync your iPad's 64Gb worth of music, movies etc over bluetooth or 3G? Even over WIFI it would be slow. Not to mention draining the iOS device battery.

You missed the point.
 
Can someone help me here, why HDMI? Airplay works well and I don't have to have the iPad tethered, and can use it as a remote. Apple TV travels well and works with my iPhone, iPad, and my kids iPods...(yes I actually have all 3). Even my 8 year old loves using the iPad on the big screen.

Its easy to use, involves minimal setup and the whole family can figure it out and I can run optical out to my home theatre.

So why do I want HDMI again?

Maybe you don't, but for someone else it might be a dealbreaker
 
Apple's iPad has stolen the show and dominated the tablet market this year as competitors have stumbled trying to bring their products to market.

Samsung claims to have sold 1 million units of its Galaxy tablets since its release a couple of months ago. I'd hardly characterize that as having "stumbled."
 
From the company whose high end phone can't sync wirelessly with a computer. Clearly Apple haven't got the news either that we are supposed to be moving beyond cables since their phones are still slaves to the USB cable. Come on, either criticise Apple and HP in equal measure for necessitating the use of cables, or criticise neither. You look totally unbalanced otherwise.

Fair point about wireless syncing.

But false argument technique. When one company (HP) screws up, it doesn't matter if another company (Apple) screws up too. That just changes the subject.
 
This is even better - it's *mini* HDMI. Because everybody has a shedload of those laying around the house, right? ;)

Not really a big deal unless you have small pockets. The type of people interested in this would be the same type that buy Apple component/composite cables for their iDevices. ;)
 
This is even better - it's *mini* HDMI. Because everybody has a shedload of those laying around the house, right? ;)
Agree. And shops charge a bucketload for them. Especially the "high quality" ones that supposedly give you a better digital signal. Wonder why Apple hasn't jumped on the HDMI train.

If HP get the purpose of their new product right and market it properly with the WebOS, of course it will be a good competitor. However, all of this will be too little, too late to try and take Apple's lion share of the Market. I just get the feeling every other competitor is losing the point of a tablet by throwing every feature at it. I feel the OS needs to be in top shape first before applications start to flourish.

Android is nowhere there until honeycomb appears. Windows 7 is too powerful and useless. WebOS follows the same line as iOS and can be transformed into a more powerful mobile OS. Blackberrys OS? We'll have to wait and see. It's not just the OS, it's the infrastructure that surrounds it. Apple have it with iTunes, the app store and many other things that tie it all in quite nicely.

Let's just say, HP have a lot of work to do or they'll flush WebOS down the toilet very quickly.
 
I think that is the point. MobileMe does all your basic over-the-air syncing. Why would you want to wirelessly sync GB's worth of data? It's pointless. And it's a drain on battery.

Nope, that is an add on solution, not Apple's default solution, thus the cable in the box.
 
That's because they see you coming...:)

Mini-HDMI to HDMI Cables
Please go ask my local PC World/Currys/Comet/Argos here in the UK to stop conning the general public into selling cables at least 5x their value. I paid 5 quid on eBay for one and its flawless. The sales assistants even have the cheek to lie through their teeth to clueless customers about them. And they're graded like SCART cables were. The cheek.

Wireless tech should be the way anyway. We've got wireless phones, audio, Ethernet, and whatever else apart from a decent wireless video standard. Wireless HDMI? I'd put some investment into that if it happens.
 
Monster Cable = Monster Ripoff

Please go ask my local PC World/Currys/Comet/Argos here in the UK to stop conning the general public into selling cables at least 5x their value. ...

I remember seeing gold-tipped Monster Cable HDMI cables here in the US for $100. They figured they could fleece the early adopters, then continue to fleece the middle adopters for years after that. It's been Monster Cable's business model since they started.

All you need to know is www.monoprice.com.
 
Why wirelessly sync when you need a wire to charge?

... Why would you want to wirelessly sync GB's worth of data? It's pointless. And it's a drain on battery.

Agree. Right now, in the pre-4G era, it only makes sense to wirelessly sync tidbits of info like calendar appointments and emails. Not Star Trek and Hawaii Five-0.

Of course, when the real 4G spec is chosen and implemented, we'll be getting 100Mb/sec and presumably it will use very little battery power. Things will be different then, but that won't happen until at least 2012.

(The LTE being rolled out right now is 3.9G at best, since it does not unify voice and data transmission into an all-IP all-packet-switched stream. But fortunately there is an upgrade from basic LTE to LTE Advanced, which does have all-IP technology. And LTE Advanced is one of the candidates for the final 4G spec.)
 
Do you carry a AppleTV with you everywhere you go? Every new TV has HDMI and many video projectors also have it. So with HDMI you can hook it to any "new" TV right out of the box - can't say that for the iPad.

Portability not connectivity is what counts with a tablet.

If I have to have it plugged into hdmi, then I'm using the wrong kind of device.
 
Please go ask my local PC World/Currys/Comet/Argos here in the UK to stop conning the general public into selling cables at least 5x their value. I paid 5 quid on eBay for one and its flawless. The sales assistants even have the cheek to lie through their teeth to clueless customers about them. And they're graded like SCART cables were. The cheek.

Wireless tech should be the way anyway. We've got wireless phones, audio, Ethernet, and whatever else apart from a decent wireless video standard. Wireless HDMI? I'd put some investment into that if it happens.

As I mentioned earlier: conference room - tablet - projector or plasma/LCD - mini HDMI - presentation. This is already being done with Evo's. I have set it up for users.

However, to address the latter part of post:

Wireless 1080p Ready LED-LCD Televisions

47LH85 47" 1080p Wireless Full HD LCD TV with TruMotion 120Hz & Intelligent Sensor

HP Wireless TV Connect streams 1080p video, hits Intel WiDi where it hurts
 
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Portability not connectivity is what counts with a tablet.

If I have to have it plugged into hdmi, then I'm using the wrong kind of device.

Hmm, In every large Corp there is a Video/Conferencing group of some sort. Laptops get hooked up to projectors every day of the week in Corporate America, why not substitute tablet for a laptop where possible? You're not necessarily caring the wrong type of device, just the wrong mindset. Get outside your living room.
 
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