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Honestly, for 99.9% of people, an OLED Super Retina screen at 60Hz is spectacular. I love a quality screen and genuinely I'd be happy for the same screen from the 11 Pro to be on the 12 Pro. It's already that good - OLED, P3 wide-color display etc. Sure things can be improved, but I doubt more than a fraction of people have thought "hmm, this display isn't great, what it really needs is 120Hz". Certainly not at the expense of battery life anyway.

Watching movies in 21:9, even on an iPhone X is a great experience and immersive and iOS itself is so well optimized to its hardware that moving between screens and apps is butter smooth.
 
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I actually don’t mind the notch, wouldn’t mind seeing it smaller or gone, though. I don’t mind the slower screen refresh, but I’d like to have faster. In the end we all just choose what we spend our money on. One thing I’m certain of is I’ll never go back to 326ppi or LCD. Because I can definitely tell the difference.

I get that’s your personal opinion on LCD panels, but I doubt consumers share your mindset. Apples been using LCD panels since inception of the iPhone and in general, consumers can’t differentiate between OLED versus LCD anyways. I can tell you from having the Max and an iPhone 8 plus, I am actually preferential to the LCD panel, with its color calibration, brightness and overall its maturity over the years.
 
I do agree here. Apple is falling behind the pack with screen tech again; just not LCD this time

And they get bored of selling iphones every year

Apple is apple and they can do this things because people continue to buy their products.

They can charge you 500 dls for a matte screen on the imac and 700 for wheels on the mac pro. Other companies have to give this as an option included in the price so they can compete in somewhay with apple.

The same story happened with the fast charger.
 
The average iPhone user has no idea what you’re talking about. The tiny percentage that do and won’t buy a phone because of it will have such a minuscule impact on sales that it won’t be noticed.

I agree. It’s the ones that post here that care. 99% of the masses don’t care and don’t know or care about refresh rate.
 
120hz at 1080p is laughable , as much as android fanboys try and use the argument that you can't tell the difference in terms of resolution you can 100 percent can tell . 1400 dollar phone should be able to do wqhd at 120hz . I was going to purchase this to compliment my iPhone 11 Pro max but as soon at the reviews came out I cancelled my pre order
 
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120hz at 1080p is laughable , as much as android fanboys try and use the argument that you can't tell the difference in terms of resolution you can 100 percent can tell . 1400 dollar phone should be able to do wqhd at 120hz . I was going to purchase this to compliment my iPhone 11 Pro max but as soon at the reviews came out I cancelled my pre order

It’s more worse using a device at 60hz. There is a far bigger difference using 60hz to 120hz than using FHD and QHD imo

Samsung could use 120hz at QHD but battery life would be worse
 
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It’s more worse using a device at 60hz. There is a far bigger difference using 60hz to 120hz than using FHD and QHD imo


Samsung was the only company to acquire in 2020 lpto adaptive refresh rate so you would think they would be able to too ultize wqhd at 120hz , maybe exonos 990 was the reason it couldn't be implemented. Still a shame at that price point it can't be done .
 
I agree, up until recently this was looking to be a really great update to draw in Android fans (especially combined with iOS changes) but now with more solid rumors of no 120hz, no smaller notch, smaller batteries, combined with Apple blocking new app types (Xcloud, game streaming etc) i'm now thinking i'll hold off on returning to the iPhone for another year at least to see what happens.
 
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I agree, up until recently this was looking to be a really great update to draw in Android fans (especially combined with iOS changes) but now with more solid rumors of no 120hz, no smaller notch, smaller batteries, combined with Apple blocking new app types (Xcloud, game streaming etc) i'm now thinking i'll hold off on returning to the iPhone for another year at least to see what happens.


iPhone 12 will be the first phone to utilize a 5nm chip in which she is about 15% faster but uses a full 30% lower power than the current 7nm node that is in the Snapdragon 865 Plus or Apple A13." That should mean wonderful things for battery life and longevity on a charge. So the lower battery in the upcoming iPhone 12 will shouldn't matter and be on par with the current lineup
 
Samsung was the only company to acquire in 2020 lpto adaptive refresh rate so you would think they would be able to too ultize wqhd at 120hz , maybe exonos 990 was the reason it couldn't be implemented. Still a shame at that price point it can't be done .

Maybe, it’s impossible to really know. Unless they are doing an apple trick and waiting for S21 to bring it out.

Maybe snapdragon can handle it but exynos 990 can’t.

But you know it’s funny come 2021 the chip quality will be in reverse. Exynos 1000 is said to be a super powerful chip better than snapdragon 875
 
iPhone 12 will be the first phone to utilize a 5nm chip in which she is about 15% faster but uses a full 30% lower power than the current 7nm node that is in the Snapdragon 865 Plus or Apple A13." That should mean wonderful things for battery life and longevity on a charge. So the lower battery in the upcoming iPhone 12 will shouldn't matter and be on par with the current lineup

I think the smaller batteries being Same battery life is due to the new 5mm chip. Although apple wrre said to be testing a 4,400 battery for iPhones with 120hz but that was scrapped
 
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Maybe, it’s impossible to really know. Unless they are doing an apple trick and waiting for S21 to bring it out.

Maybe snapdragon can handle it but exynos 990 can’t.

But you know it’s funny come 2021 the chip quality will be in reverse. Exynos 1000 is said to be a super powerful chip better than snapdragon 875


Im actually super excited about Exynos 1000 hopefully it bridges the gap between apple and Samsung , fingers crossed:)
 
Im actually super excited about Exynos 1000 hopefully it bridges the gap between apple and Samsung , fingers crossed:)

Yeah it’s said to be similar level maybe not as strong as the next apple chip but it will be close.

I know there’s talks exynos 1000 being everywhere but I think the US will get the SD for another year I bet
 
iPhone 12 will be the first phone to utilize a 5nm chip in which she is about 15% faster but uses a full 30% lower power than the current 7nm node that is in the Snapdragon 865 Plus or Apple A13." That should mean wonderful things for battery life and longevity on a charge. So the lower battery in the upcoming iPhone 12 will shouldn't matter and be on par with the current lineup

To me it's a step back still that I don't think is necessary.
 
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The function is a bigger display with more content. and while mask wearing is mandatory for already half a year now and who knows for how long, a finger print reader helps big time

This is an old argument on the screen size. The 2% you are obsessing about is no big deal or worthy of sacrificing Face ID. There is a reason NO ONE has duplicated the security of Apple's Face ID with similar tech. As for your fingerprint comment, I would hate to lose that screen space to a fingerprint reader. Or are you suggesting that Apple go under screen for that? Shrugs. Sure, lets rush a re-design to market LOL.
 
Samsung was the only company to acquire in 2020 lpto adaptive refresh rate so you would think they would be able to too ultize wqhd at 120hz , maybe exonos 990 was the reason it couldn't be implemented. Still a shame at that price point it can't be done .
iPhone 12 will be the first phone to utilize a 5nm chip in which she is about 15% faster but uses a full 30% lower power than the current 7nm node that is in the Snapdragon 865 Plus or Apple A13." That should mean wonderful things for battery life and longevity on a charge. So the lower battery in the upcoming iPhone 12 will shouldn't matter and be on par with the current lineup
I think the smaller batteries being Same battery life is due to the new 5mm chip. Although apple wrre said to be testing a 4,400 battery for iPhones with 120hz but that was scrapped


And this is what I cant get on board with. I also just read the Note 20 and Fold 2 have LTPO displays down to 10hz. So the argument 120hz takes too much power until Apple does what they did with the watch is a moot point. LTPO phone displays exist and on the market; which means they've been in development for months/years and Apple knew about it (with a chance to use them too, Im sure for the right price)

Why not 1440p at 120hz? Cant begin to say the tech reason. Maybe purely battery. But Apple doesnt have 1440p so that is moot

And rather than slim the battery by reportedly 10% of the capacity because 5nm, why not leave it the same as the 11 Pro series now and use that extra power for a 120hz option; or the 5G power, or reverse wireless charging, etc etc. "The same" is a silly nonsensical justification.

No one should let Apple get away with this BS. It is fully technologically possible by all facts in existence. It could be the displays are too expensive, but that's on Apple then being cheap for more profits and not the consumer problem.

To the folks who dont care or 99% of people wont care, then great You lose nothing if its there; you have zero to lose as it will surely be able to be turned off back to 60 (there was a toggle in early iOS14 beta hinting that too)
 
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And this is what I cant get on board with. I also just read the Note 20 and Fold 2 have LPTO displays down to 10hz. So the argument 120hz takes too much power until Apple does what they did with the watch is a moot point. LPTO phone displays exist and on the market; which means they've been in development for months/years and Apple knew about it (with a chance to use them too, Im sure for the right price)

And rather than slim the battery because 5nm, why not leave it the same as the 11 Pro series now and use that extra power for a 120hz option

No one should let Apple get away with this BS. It is fully technologically possible by all fats in existence. It could be the displays are too expensive, but that's on Apple then being cheap for more profits and not the consumer problem.

Well iphone won’t get LTPO until 2021 anyway as it’s from samsung.
 
No USB-C
No 120hz Display
No AptX-HD or LDAC High Res Audio codec support
No Dual Bluetooth Pairing
No WiFi 6 (just kidding I hope they have WiFi 6) MacBooks Dont but that’s a whole other rant.

I’ll just go but a Note 20 Ultra. (That’s an iPhone 13 Pro Max from 2022 Today it’s like an iPhone just Samsung tech hasn’t trickled down yet)

I am ashamed of Apple. Apple need to innovate

We already have Wi-Fi 6.
 
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This is an old argument on the screen size. The 2% you are obsessing about is no big deal or worthy of sacrificing Face ID. There is a reason NO ONE has duplicated the security of Apple's Face ID with similar tech. As for your fingerprint comment, I would hate to lose that screen space to a fingerprint reader. Or are you suggesting that Apple go under screen for that? Shrugs. Sure, lets rush a re-design to market LOL.
finger print reader doesn’t need more space than the notch for face id. But there its ok?
And under screen was rumored even long before the X was announced. So whats so lol isn’t a rush to the market.

plus there is the back and side buttons like other manufacturers do
 
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Well iphone won’t get LTPO until 2021 anyway as it’s from samsung.

Understand but my statement there is they could if they wanted to. Samsung makes the iPhone Pro OLED displays.

My personal guess is the price was too high (being new tech) and Apple didnt want to pay it. Apple is well known for talking down component suppliers to crazy low prices to get their business.

finger print reader doesn’t need more space than the notch for face id. But there its ok?
And under screen was rumored even long before the X was announced. So whats so lol isn’t a rush to the market.

plus there is the back and side buttons like other manufacturers do

Agree 100%. Some people will back Apple no matter what decision they make though; its the best thing since sliced bread until Apple tells you that you need something otherwise and then that is. 🤷‍♂️ I enjoy my independent thought and can own Apple products and criticize them at the same time (no one is perfect to not garner that)
 
Understand but my statement there is they could if they wanted to. Samsung makes the iPhone Pro OLED displays.

My personal guess is the price was too high (being new tech) and Apple didnt want to pay it. Apple is well known for talking down component suppliers to crazy low prices to get their business.
No samsung wouldn’t allow apple to have these displays until next year. They wanted to debut it on their own device for this year.
 
No samsung wouldn’t allow apple to have these displays until next year. They wanted to debut it on their own device for this year.

Proof/evidence?


"But the same tech was already commercialized in the smartwatch segment by Apple and Samsung itself, i.e. the Apple Watch 4 and last year’s Galaxy Watch Active 2.

Apple is actually the owner of the original LTPO patent, meaning Samsung will have to pay royalties on its expanded usage."


They own the patent for the tech, and using it for years in the watch, but cant negotiate their own displays as part of the deal with Samsung use of that patent? 😂 I mean "c'mon man"..... That would make Apple just about the worst negotiators in history there.
 
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