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I have to say Im not bothered by the camera bump, holding the 256GB 13 Pro next to the 1TB 14 Pro and its not like "OH MY GOD THE CAMERA BUMP ITS HUUUUUUGE" its a bit bigger but not so that I really notice tbh, maybe I just use my phone and dont stare or obsess over it, but really its not that big as far as I'm concerned. Each to their own I guess.
 
I have an IPhone 12PM I came from 11PM prior. I'm so tempted to trade my 12 to 14 as I skipped the 13 for thr same reason I'm skipping the 14 this year, I'm really hoping for an external redesign and USB-C. All the upgrades on 14PM right now vs my 12PM is not revolutionary (imo) so I'm skipping, iphone is a very good device, iOS ecosystem even better, but the external design doesn't excite me anymore, I'm sure they'd come out with a new redesign eventually, also I can't just simply upgrade my phone to take advantage of my increased trade in value because verizon wants me to pay for the phone 36 mos and then move out of my retention plan $35/mo per line unlimited data for 3 lines to $55/mo per line. So that just totally convinced me to skip again this year.. just my 0.02..
I have the 12ProMax (in gold color). Really wanted 13ProMax for the Sierra Blue, but decided against it last minute. Then this year, the deep purple is a bit underwhelming, and the incremental technology is minor as well, 12ProMax is still a very good phone, so I'm also skipping this year.

I hope 15ProMax will be a "light purple" because this deep purple is too much like space black with a purple hue.
 
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The 14 line up is lackluster honestly, but I am sure someone here are gonna come out and defend apple like "sat communications WOW IM GONNA USE ALL THE TIME THANK U APPLE"

smh.

There is ZERO reason to upgrade to the 14 from the 13. Crash detection? lol.

I am honestly going to agree with this.
I got the 13 Pro at day one last year, returned on the 14th day because I somehow wanted to try the mini. Happy overall but it already feels old.
I was about to complete the order for a 14 Pro space black and in store collection today, when I realized that the only thing I'd be excited for with the 14 Pro would be the 120 Hz. Which the 13 Pro has. So... I'm now in talks with a friend to buy their 13 Pro.
 
I have the 14 Pro and 13 Pro and besides the island, you would never notice any difference.

For me it’s not worth it and many on here will convince themselves it really is but deep down they know it’s pointless and a waste of money.

As MKHB says in his video, anyone from an 11 or later would love it but for the rest of us, wait.

The big change next year with a redesign, type C and hopefully a better camera software.
 
Do we really think we’ll get a redesign next year? And if so what will it be?

I think we will get at least another year with DI (think there seven rumours on the home page indicating this) - no way can I see them having that for one year and binning it off, we had the notch for 4 years was it?

I personally think only redesign we might see literally will be USB C in for lightning. All other changes will be hardware related, screen brightness, battery and camera etc
 
I have the 14 Pro and 13 Pro and besides the island, you would never notice any difference.

For me it’s not worth it and many on here will convince themselves it really is but deep down they know it’s pointless and a waste of money.

As MKHB says in his video, anyone from an 11 or later would love it but for the rest of us, wait.

The big change next year with a redesign, type C and hopefully a better camera software.
I’m feeling this right now. Coming from 13PM to 14PM I knew the side grade was going to be incremental but was looking forward for the new Dynamic Island and 48MP camera so I pulled the trigger on the 14PM. After using the 14PM for a day, the pill shape bothers me and is quite annoying IMO. I’ll use the phone for 2 weeks and return if I can’t get used to it.
 
Do we really think we’ll get a redesign next year? And if so what will it be?

I think we will get at least another year with DI (think there seven rumours on the home page indicating this) - no way can I see them having that for one year and binning it off, we had the notch for 4 years was it?

I personally think only redesign we might see literally will be USB C in for lightning. All other changes will be hardware related, screen brightness, battery and camera etc
I think the frame might change but still have the flat design, I also think we’ll get the periscope lens on the max/ultra model

maybe a display spec bump, type C, front cam MP bump, thicker etc.

I’d love a brushed steel frame like the 4 and an actual black back.
 
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That's why you should buy phones based on if you need some new functionality in it. If your workflow is the same as before and you use the same things, then most likely you won't notice much of a difference in the new one. Think of it as an appliance.

I can't even think what I would want in a new phone in terms of hardware other than some amazing camera setup with 1" type main sensor and huge sensors for the telephoto and ultra wide cameras and all around extremely high quality glass lenses by ZEISS or somebody else to eliminate glare. And I'd like a solution to high shutter speeds in bright daylight resulting in videos being very crackly.

Maybe super accurate GNSS chip that is precise to within 50cm.

Other than what?
 
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Exactly! Those that upgrade every year complaining that there aren't world changing differences confuse me. What do you expect? Wait a few years, then you'll appreciate the differences.
I totally agree. I update to a new iPhone on average once every four years. I'm currently using a second generation iPhone SE from 2020 (using the same A13 chip as iPhone 11). Sometimes I have iPhone envy, but the grass isn't always that much greener on the other side.

1) it's not like my iPhone slows down a lot, can't do what I need it to do, or can't get software updates from Apple in the meantime. Do I want the latest features that the new iPhones have that my current one doesn't have? I'm not into photography, so the camera/photography upgrades mean nothing to me.

I don't really care for Face ID. I have Face ID on my 2020 iPad Pro - not impressed. When I read that Apple would put the battery percentage back on iPhones, that shocked me. I didn't know that the Face ID iPhones couldn't show that, as the iPhone SE has had it the entire time.

The only thing the new iPhones have that my 2020 iPhone SE doesn't have, which also interests me, is the U1 chip and the more precise location tracking you can do with Apple Airtags. However, that alone isn't enough for me to upgrade.

2) After several years of incremental upgrades, the next iPhone I get would have multiple advantages over the old one, and then it would actually be worth the upgrade. For my next iPhone purchase, either in a year or two from now, it would likely come with USB-C (which interests me), the U1 chip which I'm interested in, possibly the under-screen Touch ID sensor that I'm holding out hope for, plus whatever other stuff Apple managed to cram in, which to me may be "nice but not super cool things." Those things together would likely sway me, along with my current phone's diminishing battery life and whatever other problems develop.

Growing up in a low-income family, I actually have to talk myself into upgrading to the next iPhone when I think about buying the next one. Am I getting enough bang for my buck?

Paying the premium Apple charges on a yearly basis for small upgrades on iPhones is an unwise use of money in my view. Unless there's a killer feature that you just can't go without, then why do this to yourself? You're better off taking the money you'd save to do something else with
 
Exactly! Those that upgrade every year complaining that there aren't world changing differences confuse me. What do you expect? Wait a few years, then you'll appreciate the differences.

I, probably like many others who upgraded year over year, never expected world changing differences.

This time around it was just tedious and for the first time I just didn’t want to deal with it.
 
For me, I buy iPhone 11 from total wireless for $150. Trade it in for an iPhone 14 pro with $800 off x 2 for my wife and me. Then pass down our 13 pro’s to our kids. Sell the kids 12 pros for ~$500 each. $350 x2 in my pocket each year which pays off the new phones. With the promos my T-Mobile bill is -$75/month paying for home internet, 4 lte watches and 4 newer phones. So is the upgrade great, not really. But if I can have a new phone with 100% battery and great cameras each year, then I’m happy with that.
 
The wife and I were upgrade every year people.…We stopped at the 12 pro max & skipped the 13. We just grabbed the 14 pro max.

The 2 year upgrade cycle is perfect for countering Apple’s incremental upgrade strategy year over year. Probably could have made it one more year. We actually paid off the 12 pro max’s and gave them to our oldest kids. So much better than giving them back via trade.
 
At this point going through the order process and backing out of actually ordering in the final step has given me almost the same satisfaction as buying a new iPhone lol much cheaper too. Going to hold onto my 12 PM another year.
12 PM was a nice phone. I didn’t like 13 Pro. I love the 14 Pro Max so far. I’m baking a cake and can keep track of the baking timer on the Dynamic Island while scrolling the posts. I look forward to seeing what other utility I can discover from Dynamic Island.

As an Android user I am happy Apple finally got AOD.

I notice some improvements in the camera over last year, too. It’s many small things that add up for me to enjoy this phone. I’m just waiting to see how I get along with the OLED pwm this year.

I can understand not everyone is going to be wowed by yearly incremental improvements. If I could do it all over again I would have skipped 13 Pro. 12 Pro to 14 Pro would have been a smoother progression for me.

Unfortunately my 12 Pro Display was defective. Everything else about it was great. The display didn’t trigger migraines the way 13 Pro did.

It also took nicer photos than my 13 Pro did. It’s not a bad phone to hang onto for a few years. See if Apple offers periscope zoom next year. Even if they do, I might hold back because I saw how bad first iteration of periscope zoom was on a Samsung. I hope Apple does it much better, especially since Samsung has refined it now.
 
Do we really think we’ll get a redesign next year? And if so what will it be?

I think we will get at least another year with DI (think there seven rumours on the home page indicating this) - no way can I see them having that for one year and binning it off, we had the notch for 4 years was it?

I personally think only redesign we might see literally will be USB C in for lightning. All other changes will be hardware related, screen brightness, battery and camera etc

The redesign would be the camera at another corner or at the middle, the three circles in another pattern lol xd
 
I understand your disappointment, OP. Year over year upgrades are quite incremental. Huge advancements are fewer and further in between. That being said, I knew that going in. I was in my extended return window for my 13 Pro; otherwise I would have certainly skipped this year.

I will say I prefer the DI to the notch. I just wish they had left the pill and camera separate. When you see it in direct light, they take up even less space than the pill “enhancement.” It also seems like the screen is a little bit smoother than my 13, more contrasty, and even a little warmer. Cameras are nice too. Can live with or without the AOD. I appreciate the total package for what it is. Definitely wouldn’t encourage 13—>14 unless you just feel like it.
 
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