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I can't decide Xbox 360 Elite or a PS3
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If the Wii keeps selling at this existing pace, then MS and Sony will be competing for second place.
Thing is, I for one, and probably several people here have been turned off other consoles by their manufacturers. If I wasn't given a PS3 I wouldn't have bought one myself until MGS4 and some other games were out. Hell I can't wait to get my PSP now my original qualms have been dealt with! I'm sure there are slews of people who want X system but are waiting for Y feature or complaining about Z problem.
Don't get "fanboyism" and criticism confused.
I don't think any MR regular here is a fanboy; that is somebody with unjust reasons for hating a system or somebody who can't find faults with their own preference. You need to go round Gamefaqs for that behaviour.
Don't get "fanboyism" and criticism confused.
I don't think any MR regular here is a fanboy; that is somebody with unjust reasons for hating a system or somebody who can't find faults with their own preference. You need to go round Gamefaqs for that behaviour.
You know, I used to be concerned that Microsoft was going to come into the industry, stomp it with big money and nasty monopolistic business practices, gain control over it, and ruin it. For that reason, I would not purchase an X-Box (and it could be argued that I was a hater).
However, I haven't been worried about that in a long time. I'd get an X-Box 360, a PSP, and a Playstation 3 if I had the time to play the games. As it is, I don't have enough time to play all my Wii, DS, and PS2 games.
And I might change my mind and buy one of those platforms, assuming they become compelling enough. There's lots of great games and great stories out there for every system. I want to play the Halo series. I want to play Uncharted and the new Ratchet and Clank. They'll just have to wait until I can justify the purchase to myself, or I am compelled beyond reason.
However, I haven't been worried about that in a long time. I'd get an X-Box 360, a PSP, and a Playstation 3 if I had the time to play the games. As it is, I don't have enough time to play all my Wii, DS, and PS2 games.
And I might change my mind and buy one of those platforms, assuming they become compelling enough. There's lots of great games and great stories out there for every system. I want to play the Halo series. I want to play Uncharted and the new Ratchet and Clank. They'll just have to wait until I can justify the purchase to myself, or I am compelled beyond reason.
Yep - agreed.
Ps3 is getting its $#!t in gear near the 1yr mark (as if there was any doubt).
360 did the same thing that's why I bought one at the 1yr mark.
Wii I bought when I found one early but now the games are coming I'm a little more excited about owning the system. I'll get SMG one of these days
God I'm going to hate owning all 3 'next gen' systems when I get a Ps3 early next year...*sigh* already hard enough buying games for the systems I already have (360, Wii, Ps2, DS...soon a PSP as well).
What a bunch of disgruntled spoiled brats we are eh that's ok though 
God I'm going to hate owning all 3 'next gen' systems when I get a Ps3 early next year...*sigh* already hard enough buying games for the systems I already have (360, Wii, Ps2, DS...soon a PSP as well).
its not the buying of the games, its the time to play them. I'm seriously thinking of getting rid of a console/handheld to slim down the collection because time is just simply not there to enjoy them all.
PS3 for me (and I've had them all)
This is kind of an old thread but the topic is highly relevant especially during the holiday season when people are choosing gifts. I can offer my perspective as someone who has owned all three major systems: Wii, PS3, 360. As an adult gamer, I greatly prefer the PS3, so much so that I sold my 360. For a family system, the Wii is in a class all its own. It has huge fun factors and is a great system for many many reasons. The Wii is what the rest of my family loves the most.
The reasons why I believe the PS3 is a superior system to the 360 include:
1. Built in high definition dvd player that also upconverts my other dvd's that lookd fantastic on my HD TV. As opposed to the 360 that you have to pay ~150 for the HD player.
2. Built in wifi that includes a free internet service. As opposed to the 360 that you have to pay for the extra wifi and extra for the service.
3. Quiet. The PS3 is whisper quiet when playing games and watching movies. This is a big factor especially watching shows. As opposed to the 360 that is annoyingly loud.
4. PS3 has phenomenal games in every genre that I enjoy. Ask yourself, do you really need 200 games at $50+ each?
No. You need/want a few really good games that you'll spend lots of hours on.
5. PS3 is less expensive for equivalent hardware. You'll save about $100 on the PS3 compared to a similarly configured 360.
6. The PS3 is a much higher quality piece of hardware. The 360 has a 33% failure rate. That is huge! Do you want to take a 1 in 3 chance that you'll be forced to deal with MS and returns and mailing a big box and being without your system for weeks, etc.? The PS3 has around a 1% failure rate. Whichever you buy, I recommend buying from a store that gives you no-hassle refunds for life, like Costco.
I realize everyone has an opinion and these merely reflect mine. But there are good reasons why I came to this decision and you will want to consider the choice carefully.
Nobody knows what the future holds but I am confindent in saying that the PS3 will continue becoming a better value as more and more great games and blu-ray movies come out. And even as it stands Dec 2007, the PS3 is the clear winner in my opinion.
This is kind of an old thread but the topic is highly relevant especially during the holiday season when people are choosing gifts. I can offer my perspective as someone who has owned all three major systems: Wii, PS3, 360. As an adult gamer, I greatly prefer the PS3, so much so that I sold my 360. For a family system, the Wii is in a class all its own. It has huge fun factors and is a great system for many many reasons. The Wii is what the rest of my family loves the most.
The reasons why I believe the PS3 is a superior system to the 360 include:
1. Built in high definition dvd player that also upconverts my other dvd's that lookd fantastic on my HD TV. As opposed to the 360 that you have to pay ~150 for the HD player.
2. Built in wifi that includes a free internet service. As opposed to the 360 that you have to pay for the extra wifi and extra for the service.
3. Quiet. The PS3 is whisper quiet when playing games and watching movies. This is a big factor especially watching shows. As opposed to the 360 that is annoyingly loud.
4. PS3 has phenomenal games in every genre that I enjoy. Ask yourself, do you really need 200 games at $50+ each?
No. You need/want a few really good games that you'll spend lots of hours on.
5. PS3 is less expensive for equivalent hardware. You'll save about $100 on the PS3 compared to a similarly configured 360.
6. The PS3 is a much higher quality piece of hardware. The 360 has a 33% failure rate. That is huge! Do you want to take a 1 in 3 chance that you'll be forced to deal with MS and returns and mailing a big box and being without your system for weeks, etc.? The PS3 has around a 1% failure rate. Whichever you buy, I recommend buying from a store that gives you no-hassle refunds for life, like Costco.
I realize everyone has an opinion and these merely reflect mine. But there are good reasons why I came to this decision and you will want to consider the choice carefully.
Nobody knows what the future holds but I am confindent in saying that the PS3 will continue becoming a better value as more and more great games and blu-ray movies come out. And even as it stands Dec 2007, the PS3 is the clear winner in my opinion.
Just a nit-pick, but this is sorta against what Sony players have been ratting on Nintendo for.
And it's funny you should bring hours into it considering the PS3's games we were supposed to have looked forward to are less than 10 hours long each.
This is a sound principle regardless of the platform. I would venture to say that all of them offer great games for every genre (although I haven't found a solid RPG on the Wii yet). The point is that we really only need a few great games, not lots of mediocre games.
I don't know which games you're referring to. I only became interested in the PS3 a couple of weeks ago and have subsequently logged way more than 10 hours on a couple of games that I know are not near to being done yet. I'll be starting Oblivion on the PS3 soon and I know it'll last me several months with my casual style of gameplay.
I won't argue the initial failure rate but what I will argue is that we will see how long Ps3s stand the test of time. Considering that I've went through at least 2 a piece of every Sony home console thus far (owned 2 PSX's, 1 PsOne [still works], 2 PS2's, 1 Ps2 [slim-still works])...we will see how long it is 1% as time goes on. I have no faith in Sony products, I'm sorry. That's not a knock on Sony's brand name vs anyone elses, that's a knock on their reliability. I've went through enough failed or "testy" Sony products of varying degrees (tv's, walkmen, discmen, cd players, dvd players, Playstations, digital cameras, computers) that I have 0% faith in long-term reliability of anything that Sony manufactures these days.
But ~ again - time will tell. I never had any problems with my Xbox, and since being repaired my 360 has been flawless. I've also had 0 problems with the vast assortment of Microsoft hardware I've owned over the years (mice and keyboards) so - if I'm keeping score amidst myself as it pertains to reliability -
Microsoft 1, Sony 0.
Man, that sucks. I hate it when my stuff breaks and then you have to deal with the service arm of a manufacturer or retailer. What is interesting about your post is how many Sony items you have or have owned. The inference is that Sony makes products that you want. Unfortunately, most pieces of machinery will break or wear out at some point.
Personally, I have had no troubles with Sony products. I have owned a receiver, speakers, walkman, 46" LCD HD TV, and now the PS3. Conversely, I had a Panasonic crt, dvd player and receiver crap out on me. I guess it just comes with the territory. What I have learned is to buy from a retailer that will give me an unconditional money back guarantee, which is why I buy as much as I can from Costco (including my new PS3). As for MS, the pain and suffering they have inflicted upon me by their softwares is quite enough.
Also... time always tells, but nobody can read the future. What we know now is all we know. And we know now that the PS3 has been stable for a year. We also know that the 360 currently has a huge failure rate even on their most recent models (Fall 2007). I appreciate and respect your opinion because I would feel the same way if I had the same experiences that you have had. Matter of fact, my bad experience with Panasonic peripherals made me decide not to buy a Panasonic plasma (I'm happier with a LCD anyway).
Personally, I have had no troubles with Sony products. I have owned a receiver, speakers, walkman, 46" LCD HD TV, and now the PS3. Conversely, I had a Panasonic crt, dvd player and receiver crap out on me. I guess it just comes with the territory. What I have learned is to buy from a retailer that will give me an unconditional money back guarantee, which is why I buy as much as I can from Costco (including my new PS3). As for MS, the pain and suffering they have inflicted upon me by their softwares is quite enough.
Also... time always tells, but nobody can read the future. What we know now is all we know. And we know now that the PS3 has been stable for a year. We also know that the 360 currently has a huge failure rate even on their most recent models (Fall 2007). I appreciate and respect your opinion because I would feel the same way if I had the same experiences that you have had. Matter of fact, my bad experience with Panasonic peripherals made me decide not to buy a Panasonic plasma (I'm happier with a LCD anyway).
Well 10 years ago, Sony was one of the few brands that made higher end products for the money (over the cheaper brands like RCA, Philips, Magnavox etc) and I think that was Sony's heyday.
These days, Sony doesn't make much of their own products anymore, it's someone else's job but Sony sticks their brand name on it. (A high end tv sales/repair shop owner friend of mine said that all Sony tvs are now manufactured by Samsung, bought by Sony and then rebranded as a Sony tv.)
Samsung & Toshiba are very respected these days (from what I gather) for their products...a couple other notables being Panasonic and Hitachi. Samsung is like the new Sony with the 1990 Sony reliability, but a cheaper-than-Sony-usually-costs price tag.
Everyone has their own experiences though, no doubt. I'll say it for the umpteenth time - I'll own a Ps3 in 2008. sitting right beside my 360, Wii + Ps2 slim (going to have to either reorganize the entertainment center or get a bigger one though LOL to fit all that gaming goodness)
These days, Sony doesn't make much of their own products anymore, it's someone else's job but Sony sticks their brand name on it. (A high end tv sales/repair shop owner friend of mine said that all Sony tvs are now manufactured by Samsung, bought by Sony and then rebranded as a Sony tv.)
Samsung & Toshiba are very respected these days (from what I gather) for their products...a couple other notables being Panasonic and Hitachi. Samsung is like the new Sony with the 1990 Sony reliability, but a cheaper-than-Sony-usually-costs price tag.
Everyone has their own experiences though, no doubt. I'll say it for the umpteenth time - I'll own a Ps3 in 2008.
sitting right beside my 360, Wii + Ps2 slim (going to have to either reorganize the entertainment center or get a bigger one though LOL to fit all that gaming goodness)
Actually, they have a joint venture and share the same plant and raw materials, but the manufacturing process and the production of the screens and electronics are different. I might have bought a Samsung LCD tv if they had the features I wanted, which include a flat bezel instead of the distracting shiny piano black bezel's that are all the rage these days. I also believe that Sony has different image processing that makes a significant difference in the picture quality. I have a Samsung 19" computer monitor that has been fantastic. I'm certainly not a huge Sony fan but if they provide the cool stuff that I want then I'll buy from them. And coming back to the topic... the PS3 is cool
^ I've had more crap from Apple fail (maybe because I'm a REV1 guinea pig for the most part) than with Microsoft. My 360's are ok and my original 'modded' xbox still works no problem.
Sony wise I went through 2 original playstation's, and 3 PS2's (classic style) and 2 PS2 slim. Not to mention all the other Sony Professional Video hardware that has died or screwed up on us. But so far PS3 seems to be ok.
It's all luck of the draw. Will having bad luck with some hardware suddenly 'jade' me and make me detest a brand.. no! I'm wise enough to realise **** happens.
As with all things it's the follow up support that is important.
Sony wise I went through 2 original playstation's, and 3 PS2's (classic style) and 2 PS2 slim. Not to mention all the other Sony Professional Video hardware that has died or screwed up on us. But so far PS3 seems to be ok.
It's all luck of the draw. Will having bad luck with some hardware suddenly 'jade' me and make me detest a brand.. no! I'm wise enough to realise **** happens.
As with all things it's the follow up support that is important.
PS3.. all the way!
Not because I hate Microsoft, but because the PS3 is a better system. Also, if history repeats itself, it will have more game selection. Microsoft can keep Halo.
Not because I hate Microsoft, but because the PS3 is a better system. Also, if history repeats itself, it will have more game selection. Microsoft can keep Halo.
^ Judging by the 2008 Release calendar for both formats, there is very little difference in the amount of games or types of games that both systems will have.
At least 85% of games will remain multi-format
At least 85% of games will remain multi-format
So you had a perfectly working 360 repaired?
And it truly is luck of the draw. My brother has a PS1 from 8-9 years ago that works as well as it did the day he got it.
After a laser replacement our PS1 works like a charm. PS2 needed a replacement laser too. Original Xbox is fine. 360 broke. Every Nintendo console flawless. Broke hinge on DS Lite. No problems with Sega machines at all.
Our original PSP had ghosting problems. Looking at trailers on Youtube it looks like it might have been addressed now.
*phew*
Maybe I just take care of my games machines hides
Our original PSP had ghosting problems. Looking at trailers on Youtube it looks like it might have been addressed now.
*phew*
Maybe I just take care of my games machines
hideshehe, your silly. 33% failure rate....no blu-ray, no wi-fi, micro$oft?
ps3 obvioulsy
Better sports games, 16 directional disc and keypad.
Intellivision - obviously....
Wait! What year is this???
those are good games....but so is resistance fall of man (beats all of those IMO)
all games are better on a console that doesnt break 33% of the time.
not to mention more advanced consoles with more potential.
The PS3 is a gaming console, you know, to play games with. If I buy the PS3 now, it means I want to play games on it now. This whole "future-games-for-PS3" mantra is hilarious. As it currently stands, the 360 has an excellent huge library of games NOW and the PS3 has very few. What makes a game console is its games, not because of looking cooler or packing XYZ features.
I have neither a 360 nor a PS3 but I will probably get a 360 when MS gets off their butts and fix the problems that have been plaguing their console.