The average person doesn't need to know about it if it's on the computer from the start, hence my comment. But I'm sure that it'll just get shot down as bloatware here.
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what are most common mac osx errors or even those that might not happen frequently would make a windows user scratch his head on how to fix - and how do you rectify those errors?
Browser plug-in system hard lock with nothing written to the logs.
I'm having some secure page weirdness right now under OS X. I'm booted into 7 right now.
Are you being serious?
Macs can handle external displays VERY well, don't BS.
I use Windows on my mac, with my external, i have to reconnect it 2-3 times to get it to work, and sometimes it screws up the resolution, sometimes it mirrors my display, and sometimes it just gets rid of the display on my MacBook and uses the external as a primary display!
I have never encountered any of the above issues on OS X, and i don't even think you can calibrate displays properly on Windows, unless there are not any obvious ways to do it.
You know, A dear friend of mine started a similar argument with me a long long time ago. This was when I purchased my first MacPro. He claimed the hardware included in the system was less impressive then his custom built PC!! Then.. a couple of months ago, he's switch to Mac!!
Dumping his "awesome PC" for something that just works. When I asked why? He said he's sick of installing the Windows over and over again, every few months... Now we still argue about Mac issues but it's more a inexperience user thing. I should charge him a pound for every question.
what is that?You know, A dear friend of mine started a similar argument with me a long long time ago. This was when I purchased my first MacPro. He claimed the hardware included in the system was less impressive then his custom built PC!! Then.. a couple of months ago, he's switch to Mac!!
When I asked why? He said he's sick of installing the Windows over and over again, every few months... Now we still argue about Mac issues but it's more a inexperience user thing. I should charge him a pound for every question.
which mac issues would that be?
i've never had any issues with windows displaying to an external before...it was pretty obvious when i did it.
ps. thanks ergdegdeg
The same ole issues Windows user have when they first switch to a Mac. Usually million of silly questions of "how to do this?"
I guess the unfamiliar and his old habits doesn't go hand in hand.
Personally I think you can rant continuously about Apple's marketing hype (that's what marketing is about, creating hype!.
I, however is very happy with mine. Does everything I need and I'm able to earn a decent income with it and more importantly, I'm doing it all without being stressed.
First of all, Mosx: what was it you said you did for a living? I forgot what you said in the past. Not specific company, just a field or title. I just want to know what professional experience you have with the operating systems you refer to.
I have no use for an HDMI input when the MDP to HDMI, to DVI, and VGA are far more useful given we have a mix of projectors, LCD's, and regular monitors. 4GB of RAM is what, $45 these days? Wow, I think I can swing that cost. Let me look under my couch cushions.
Card readers are unnecessary for me and a lot of peole when there's this thing called a card reader. I'll give you the point on the warranty though; AppleCare should be included at no cost.
With the exception of one app (VMWare ESX VI3 client) I don't find OS X lacking. So your broad generalization is little more than that.
Here, since we're lofting personal anecdotes over the net: I'm looking at a Thinkpad T61p with an nVidia Quadro that Win7RC auto installs the driver, but it blue screens every once and awhile. nVidia's driver won't install either, because it finds "no suitable device" (even though it's for the same identical card on Windows 7). Hmmm, ain't that odd? No driver for the fingerprint reader either. It's done this on a T400 with an ATI as well, but luckily ATI's driver did install and work just fine.
You didn't respond to his other point, which is this argument has gone back and forth ad nauseum and you can't bring yourself to accept that people like what they like, and there are advantages and disadvantages to all platforms.
You still seem to be confusing anecdotal evidence and opinion with facts. Here, let me help you with that again:
Fact
Anecdotal evidence
Opinion
And a lot of people watch American Idol, that doesn't mean it's the golden standard for musical talent.
I have on 3 occasions, and it's been amazing. Arguably one of the times was my fault, yet Apple took care of me anyway, quickly and with a smile. Unlike HP, wants you to take down a server in the middle of the day just to make sure a blown redundant power supply is really dead.
XP is not as secure as Vista, but it is every bit as stable and definitely faster than Vista on the same hardware.
Let's once again re-visit the "iLife is useless bloatware" debate.
The very existance of iWeb created sites points to proof that iWeb is not "useless". If some people find it useful, then it's not useless. You may not like the site, you may feel the need to insult the site owners (and you do that quite well), but it most certainly shows iWeb is useful to many people.
GarageBand: again, as evidenced by the forums and sites dedicated to it, it is a useful app for many. I use Logic, but GarageBand is still very capable. No, that crap application by M-Audio you keep posting does not touch GB, and your continual posting of it shows your lack of experience with digital audio workstation apps.
iMovie is useful to many as well. I use it for quick snips of training videos in HD on my laptop, and I also use iDVD as well for these purposes. We also use FCP for more elaborate marketing videos, but for many small tasks, iMovie is fantastic. Ironically enough FCP replaced an Avid system, which while very powerful, was difficult to use for most users and was terribly unstable in our experience.
To get something equivalent to iMovie would require buying Vegas Movie Studio (which I own) or Adobe Premiere Elements. No, the apps included with camcorders aren't as good as iMovie; they're often trialware, seriously lacking in features, have serious usabilty issues, or all 3. Having purchased 2 Sonys and 2 Canon HD units within the last 2 years, I highly disagree that anything included with a camcorder is worth the CD it's burned on.
iPhoto I like, but for me could easily be replaced with Picasa. Still I use it because it works very well, and don't find the need to use Picasa very often.
I have to laugh about the bloatware argument because HP business laptops and workstations always come with tons of useless crap that needs to come off. Luckily I use a pure XP image so that's not an issue for me, but it's still funny to hear the "bloatware" comment. Even Windows itself comes with bloatware; MovieMaker, anyone? Surely if iMovie is bloatware, so is MM2, which is horrible.
Even when in Windows I never touch it. Also, after 3 MacBooks, 2 MacBook Pros, and 2 Mac Pros, none of them came with any trialware such as Office or iWork. Just iLife, which is used often.
Because any Avid less than $50K is unstable and overpriced.
In your opinion.
Show me a fingerprint reader than works reliably. HP and Lenovo aren't correct answers.
That's funny, because I have stacks of broken HP business laptops in the storage room at work that speak otherwise. Plastic junk.
I watch Blu Rays all the time......on my big screen HD TV, where you can really see the HD difference. I play L4D all the time on my MBP quite nicely, thank you.
You're in denial again. You've never heard of Vista driver issues? Really? Is Google broken on your computer?
It's useless? Wow, I must be imagining the Logitech mouse I'm using right now then. Figment 'O my imagination!
I quite like the multitouch pad.
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Many people use all the iLife apps.
OS X's previewing is much, much better. Come on man, I like XP and 7 but it's obvious OS X is ahead there. Stop being an MS apologist about EVERYTHING.
People refute your comments all the time, but you're either in denial or are incredibly arrogant to think that you're always right.
In conclusion, it's not anyone's job here to continuously spout anecdotal evidence as truth in attempt to sway people into buying PC's. If it works for you, then super. But let's be productive and provide useful information. People do more with their computer than watch movies and play games.
I have no use for an HDMI input when the MDP to HDMI, to DVI, and VGA are far more useful given we have a mix of projectors, LCD's, and regular monitors. 4GB of RAM is what, $45 these days? Wow, I think I can swing that cost. Let me look under my couch cushions.
Card readers are unnecessary for me and a lot of peole when there's this thing called a card reader. I'll give you the point on the warranty though; AppleCare should be included at no cost.
With the exception of one app (VMWare ESX VI3 client) I don't find OS X lacking. So your broad generalization is little more than that.
Here, since we're lofting personal anecdotes over the net: I'm looking at a Thinkpad T61p with an nVidia Quadro that Win7RC auto installs the driver, but it blue screens every once and awhile. nVidia's driver won't install either, because it finds "no suitable device" (even though it's for the same identical card on Windows 7). Hmmm, ain't that odd? No driver for the fingerprint reader either. It's done this on a T400 with an ATI as well, but luckily ATI's driver did install and work just fine.
JMann said:
Mosx said:
You didn't respond to his other point, which is this argument has gone back and forth ad nauseum and you can't bring yourself to accept that people like what they like, and there are advantages and disadvantages to all platforms.
Mosx said:
You still seem to be confusing anecdotal evidence and opinion with facts. Here, let me help you with that again:
Fact
Anecdotal evidence
Opinion
And a lot of people watch American Idol, that doesn't mean it's the golden standard for musical talent.
I have on 3 occasions, and it's been amazing. Arguably one of the times was my fault, yet Apple took care of me anyway, quickly and with a smile. Unlike HP, wants you to take down a server in the middle of the day just to make sure a blown redundant power supply is really dead.
XP is not as secure as Vista, but it is every bit as stable and definitely faster than Vista on the same hardware.
Let's once again re-visit the "iLife is useless bloatware" debate.
The very existance of iWeb created sites points to proof that iWeb is not "useless". If some people find it useful, then it's not useless. You may not like the site, you may feel the need to insult the site owners (and you do that quite well), but it most certainly shows iWeb is useful to many people.
GarageBand: again, as evidenced by the forums and sites dedicated to it, it is a useful app for many. I use Logic, but GarageBand is still very capable. No, that crap application by M-Audio you keep posting does not touch GB, and your continual posting of it shows your lack of experience with digital audio workstation apps.
iMovie is useful to many as well. I use it for quick snips of training videos in HD on my laptop, and I also use iDVD as well for these purposes. We also use FCP for more elaborate marketing videos, but for many small tasks, iMovie is fantastic. Ironically enough FCP replaced an Avid system, which while very powerful, was difficult to use for most users and was terribly unstable in our experience.
To get something equivalent to iMovie would require buying Vegas Movie Studio (which I own) or Adobe Premiere Elements. No, the apps included with camcorders aren't as good as iMovie; they're often trialware, seriously lacking in features, have serious usabilty issues, or all 3. Having purchased 2 Sonys and 2 Canon HD units within the last 2 years, I highly disagree that anything included with a camcorder is worth the CD it's burned on.
iPhoto I like, but for me could easily be replaced with Picasa. Still I use it because it works very well, and don't find the need to use Picasa very often.
I have to laugh about the bloatware argument because HP business laptops and workstations always come with tons of useless crap that needs to come off. Luckily I use a pure XP image so that's not an issue for me, but it's still funny to hear the "bloatware" comment. Even Windows itself comes with bloatware; MovieMaker, anyone? Surely if iMovie is bloatware, so is MM2, which is horrible.
Even when in Windows I never touch it. Also, after 3 MacBooks, 2 MacBook Pros, and 2 Mac Pros, none of them came with any trialware such as Office or iWork. Just iLife, which is used often.
Because any Avid less than $50K is unstable and overpriced.
In your opinion.
Show me a fingerprint reader than works reliably. HP and Lenovo aren't correct answers.
That's funny, because I have stacks of broken HP business laptops in the storage room at work that speak otherwise. Plastic junk.
I watch Blu Rays all the time......on my big screen HD TV, where you can really see the HD difference. I play L4D all the time on my MBP quite nicely, thank you.
You're in denial again. You've never heard of Vista driver issues? Really? Is Google broken on your computer?
It's useless? Wow, I must be imagining the Logitech mouse I'm using right now then. Figment 'O my imagination!
I quite like the multitouch pad.
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Many people use all the iLife apps.
OS X's previewing is much, much better. Come on man, I like XP and 7 but it's obvious OS X is ahead there. Stop being an MS apologist about EVERYTHING.
People refute your comments all the time, but you're either in denial or are incredibly arrogant to think that you're always right.
In conclusion, it's not anyone's job here to continuously spout anecdotal evidence as truth in attempt to sway people into buying PC's. If it works for you, then super. But let's be productive and provide useful information. People do more with their computer than watch movies and play games.
I'm not going to get into the PC/Mac debate here, but I had to comment on this. I am photographer (semi-professional) and I can tell you that these two programs do NOT fulfil the same functionality. Aperture is more of a photo indexing program, allowing you to make minor edits to color/contrast/etc but its primary purpose is keeping large libraries of photos organized in addition to editing meta data and setting up albums for delivery. Photoshop is a program designed for intensive editing of single images and lacks the indexing functionality entirely. This is a complete apples to oranges comparison. I could not do some of the work that I do without BOTH of thse programs - they each fill a different roll in my workflow.
A better comparison would be Aperture to Lightroom, which has similar feature set at a higher pricetag. The very fact that Abobe makes a similar photo indexing program shows that Photoshop is not designed for the types of projects and duties that Aperture and Lightroom are.
Prekesh - you sent me a private message, tried messaging back but you have them disabled...
I don't know about your other arguments, but this statement is mind-boggling. The vast majority of documents that I download are either PDF files or MS Word documents, with PDF predominating by far. And when I send documents to others for review, which I do often, PDF is my choice, since the recipients rarely have any problem reading them.
You seem to have to defend windows, bash everything that OS X does and make 1/2 a page of microsoft-friendly comments.
If I tried to defend everything Apple and bash every Windows feature, I would either crash Safari on my PowerMac Quad, or crash the MacRumors servers, probably both.
I agree; I work in pre-print graphic and PDF are not by any means "useless" like mosx said.
that was such a load of crap. especially the computer freezing less in windows than OS X. the only way a mac would freeze more than your windows machine is if you are emulating windows through parallels/vmware and use your mac more!
please also realise that you are on a Mac/Macintosh/Apple/company-that-sells-mice-that-look-like-bars-of-soap forum.(my dad has the wireless mouse, and dont like it)
there is no way you are going to win that argument in anyones mind. also bear in mind that when people spend what they consider to be a lot of money on something, they are going to defend it to hell and back. whether it be a car, PC, mac, clothing, tv - whatever
i dont see the point of trying to change peoples minds if they are so certain about what they are using. the same applies to mac fans trying to convert PC people. (except of course to get people to stop using IE, it is just awful)
every OS has its ups and downs, and so many people must be getting fed up of these ****** bloody arguments that go on.
DONT COME ON TO MAC FORUM, OR WINDOWS FORUM AND SAY THAT THE MACHINES ARE RUBBISH. people get so frustrated, please.
well thats what i think anyways
i heard that macs run hotter than the average notebook and that the hardware lifespan is less than that of average notebooks. i thought the unibody macs had a better heat management than the previous generation? my uncles powerbook was going strong for many years...i'm confused...
Apple's notebooks are hotter under Intel and the new Aluminium models are even hotter with the tweaks they've done in the thermal profiles.i heard that macs run hotter than the average notebook and that the hardware lifespan is less than that of average notebooks. i thought the unibody macs had a better heat management than the previous generation? my uncles powerbook was going strong for many years...i'm confused...
Silence is important not cooling.
Hotter yes but I haven't seen anything yet to say that they have a shorter (or longer) lifespan than the average notebook.
The problem is you have to actually make the stack. It's not like that out of the box in OS X.
2.5 inches thick 2.5 years ago? I don't think so. PC notebooks have been averaging about 1.5" thick for a few years now.
All of the HPs I've had in the last 3 years have gotten 3-3.5 hours of battery life. Which is the same real world battery life as the MacBook and MacBook Pro, seeing as how you have to have the screen set to 50% brightness on the Mac to get it to be usable.
Not in the same price range. 2.5-3 years ago, $1,000 15.4" PCs had 1280x800, but above that they had already moved on to 1680x1050.
Now you'd be hard pressed to find a $1299 15.4" system that doesn't sport 1680x1050. Some cheaper 16" systems sport 1366x768, but thats better than the MacBook Pro because its actually a 16x9 aspect ratio and not 16x10.
Who uses CardSpace?
Besides, even Vista Basic still looks better than the depressing grey of OS X.
Only Home Premium and Pro will be available to consumers. Ultimate and the other versions will only be available to specific customers.
An OEM copy of Home Premium should run around $100 the same as it has for XP, Windows 98, Vista, etc.
I'm sorry but that couldn't be any further from the truth. If hardware is the least important part, then try running iMovie on an old Celeron 566.
Thats why it took 2 replacements after 8 trips out for repair for me to finally get a problem free Mac.
You don't need $500 GPUs to play games. Those are just high end products for the people who want the best. Cheaper GPUs that cost around $200 can play any game at high settings and will be able to for at least a couple of years to come.
I have yet to see anyone prove that OS X does as much as Windows does.
When you look at the whole package, you'll see that Macs fall even farther behind PCs. Not only do they tend to cost twice as much as equally spec'ed PCs, but you'll see that you're getting a far more limited system in terms of specs and connectivity. A $1299 PC will have twice the RAM of a $1999 MacBook Pro, will have the same CPU, twice the HDD space, blu-ray, HDMI, card readers, VGA, eSATA, higher screen resolution, etc. etc. Then you look at the software and you'll see that OS X doesn't have nearly the same amount of third party software available, or even the quality of 3rd party software, and the pack-in software is mostly software you won't use.
70,000 batteries compared to the millions that were recalled by Apple a few years back
And Apple's customer support, again, is no better than the rest. I've never had any company other than Apple have an "executive" customer relations person call me up and accuse me of trying to scam the company out of a refund when all I wanted was my system repaired and I had made that very clear in my emails, phone calls, and voice mails.
Well, thats where you're wrong. If you compare blu-ray at this current point in its life to DVD at the same point in its life, you'll see that blu-ray adoption is happening at TWICE the rate of DVD. At the same point in its life, DVD had 4% marketshare. Blu-ray currently has 8%. So it will become the mainstream standard faster than DVD did. It took DVD 6 years to have 51% marketshare. We should see blu-ray reach that goal at least a bit faster than that.
And what do you mean you won't need to? Downloaded movies from iTunes and Amazon and Netflix can't even begin to compare to blu-ray quality. You're comparing half the resolution with sometimes as little as 1/10th the bitrate as well as overly compressed audio (compared to lossless and uncompressed on blu-ray).. theres just no comparison, blu-ray is light years ahead of downloadable movies. Plus you have to take into consideration the fact that the average broadband connection worldwide (even in the US) isn't even capable of streaming one of those so-called high definition films in real time.
Well, blu-ray costs no more now than DVD did at the same point in its life. The players now cost the same as DVD players did in 1999 and 2000, and blu-ray discs cost the same as DVDs did then. I remember buying plenty of DVDs for $20 and $25 the same way the average blu-ray disc is $20 now.
And I don't know if Apple will be able to support blu-ray in OS X, unless they finally get with the times and finally enable full bitstream decoding on the GPU.
I've had none. And I'm playing 10 year old games like the original Unreal!
Even my original first pressed Half-Life CD works fine.
HP has been using the same webcam module for about 3 years now. I've had it on several different systems as well as XP and Vista. I have NEVER had it not work.
Those are two year old benchmarks from when Vista was first released. Check out the benchmarks from 6 months after launch, as well as SP1 release. You'll see Vista is equal to XP in gaming performance.
HDMI has just become the standard? No. PC GPUs started shipping with HDMI way back in 2003. Those desktop GPUs couldn't pass audio, but they did support the video standard. In 2006 desktop GPUs started passing audio as well. In 2006 after HD DVD and blu-ray launched, PC notebooks started shipping with HDMI that could pass audio, with HDMI becoming standard fare in 2007. LCD monitors started having HDMI inputs around 2005. Apple is pretty much the only company NOT supporting HDMI at the moment.
Okay, so Apple pockets $27 of every $30 adapter they sell
The point is that they don't support standards. Why? Profit. It's better for Apple to sell and make a $27 profit off an adapter than pay the 3 cent licensing fee to include HDMI in their systems. Because of the fact that HDMI has been standard on other systems for years now, while Apple refuses to support standards in the name of profits.
Wrong and wrong. Both services only take up a few hundred megabytes. Both can be uninstalled easily.
Because I didn't know the downsides when I first bought it. You see, Apple and the Apple Apologists don't tell you the real story about owning a Mac or the hardware limitations. All you hear about is how great it is. It isn't until after you buy it and use it in your own home do you realize that you didn't get as much as you could have hardware wise and the software is incredibly limited and unstable.
No, you'll just talk to someone in the United States with a very thick Spanish accent that is just as difficult to understand.
Just like when Ken Bell called me and told me I was trying to scam Apple out of a refund when I had told him in numerous voice mails and emails that all I wanted was a repair.
The same way I had to end up on my third Mac before finally getting one without problems?
Thats after getting yelled at by "Executive Customer Support" mind you.
I use multiple external displays on my Mac. In Windows, it remembers each display and how each one is configured and defaults to that configuration each time. In OS X I have to start the system up and close it extremely fast for it to only use the external display, or I have to wait for it to finish booting and then close it and then wake it back up.
Windows is properly calibrated by default. But nvidia and ATI provide very in-depth tools with their drivers to calibrate the display if you do want to tweak it. More in-depth than the calibration tool in OS X.
Let's see here. Windows notebook PCs ship with HDMI and VGA. HDMI can be converted to DVI with a $2 adapter. So on a Mac, you need a $15 adapter (MDP to HDMI), and then another $30 adapter (MDP to DVI) and yet another $30 adapter (MDP to VGA) to get all of the same connectivity included with a PC. Yeah that makes sense. Oh, and every respectable display made in the last 3 or so years has included HDMI.
USB card readers are slower than built-in card readers. Plus they eat up the already extremely limited number of USB ports on a Mac.
Then theres something else wrong with your system. Nvidia offers mobile Quadro drivers on their website for Windows 7 and they DO work.
Nearly all built-in fingerprint readers on notebook PCs are made and sold by AuthenTec. Thats what I've had in every HP, and thats the one I have now that works fine under Windows 7. So you're either being dishonest or you have a different manufacturer.
Theres a big difference between an entertainment TV show and reporting news.
Just like Apple's executive support calling you and yelling at you
Thats funny because every benchmark from the last year and a half has proven otherwise.
iWeb is nothing more than a paid version of free tools that are available for Windows. It's nothing special and every site looks the same.
Good job making me laugh
I'll take the opinion of actual contracted recording artists that say that M-Audio's app is better than Garageband by a long shot. We've gone over this before. I've already proven that the apps included with digital video cameras are FULL versions. And, again, that $50 TV tuner I bought 5 years ago came with full version video and DVD editing software that is still more advanced than iMovie or iDVD.
Two of my Macs did ship with Office and iWork trials. They also shipped with some nonsense board game trialware.
Mine have always worked every single time. Works perfect on the first swipe.
The increase in quality blu-ray offers can be seen on any non-SD display. That is a fact. Blu-ray downsampled to the roughly 1 million pixel display of the MacBook will look better than DVD's 345,600 pixel display that is upscaled by over 2 times.
Vista hasn't had any driver issues since about 1 month after release. The "Vista driver issue" is even more overblown than Apple claiming its easy for someone to get a virus.
I have the Bluetooth Logitech MX Revolution, as well as the MX5500 keyboard. If I use OS X's built-in bluetooth I lose the connection all the time and it's impossible for me to wake the system up without opening the lid and causing the multiple displays to get messed up.
Not really. Look at the "Preview" app in OS X. If I want to preview a picture I double click the picture. But guess what? In OS X I can only look at that one picture. In Windows I can look at EVERY picture from just that one. I can hit left and right and go through the entire folder. In OS X I'd have to click on each individual one to preview it.
Plus Leopard was the first version of Mac OS to finally have proper thumbnail previews. Something Windows had for nearly 10 years before Mac OS finally got it.
I've yet to see anyone provide a real argument against me. Especially you.
Which is why I said it costs half as much as Photoshop and isn't even 1/4 as capable. Why should I spend so much money on an app that does no more than what other free apps do?
Nope. First of all, VMWare and Parallels are not emulation. They're virtualization. It's basically a computer within the computer. It is not emulation.
Second, I've had OS X crash on everything from clicking on links in Safari to emptying the trash of pictures to trying to burn discs.
Windows, on the other hand, has always been 100% rock solid on all of my Macs.
Macs do run hotter than PCs. My unibody MacBook averages about 30-40F hotter than my HP. I have a Targus cooling pad that moves 36CFM of air. Even with that on full, my Mac's CPU (2GHz Core 2 Duo Penryn) idles at about 130F. My HP's 2GHz Core 2 Duo Merom (a hotter running model) idles at 91F. Without the cooling pad the Mac idles at about 140F while the HP idles at about 105F. Under full load the difference is even bigger. The Mac CPU can get up to around 180F while the HP stays around 130 under full load. The GPUs run around the same as the CPUs.
The case temperatures are different too. I don't know what my HP case temp is, but it never gets warm to the touch. While the MacBook can easily get up to 104-105 and is extremely warm to the touch, sometimes even hot to the touch.
Oh and thanks for being one of the few sensible people in this thread
Ha ha, WRONG. Go right in the pictures folder in Leopard and you can view every picture in Icon View all at once and you can zoom the sizes. Wanna browse through larger size photos? Set it in Cover Flow view and thumb through all you want. Want to view large size photos individually? Select any one pic and hit the space bar and Quicklook will zoom the picture to full size. All these ways of viewing pictures have nothing to do with Preview or iPhoto.
Get you're facts straight, Windows can't do this.
mosx - just out of curiosity what are the things that apple osx does well that microsoft os can't? or...even in general?
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