I feel bad for the 8 and 8 Plus owners

[eyeseeyou]

I really wanted the plus camera on a non plus body so the x still does do that better than any other iPhone.

That being said, already owning a 7 Plus, for me its not worth the hassle or price to pay for the x as far as what I’d actually be getting back in exchange.

I’d assume there’s a jailbreak that will enable the iPhone X gestures on non x models which was also a noticeable difference when testing out the x.

 

[ReallyBigFeet]

Or those of us without baby hands who like the larger keyboard, larger photos and videos in portrait mode, larger videos in landscape mode, etc. Not for bad eyes, but because the larger plus screen makes content look better.

The bezels seem to bother you. Have you noticed all is the wasted screen space on the already more narrow tiny X? Below the keyboard for example? The letter boxing of videos and text in landscape mode? The horrid notch hiding content? The side bezels that, church them up all you want, are bezels? The homebar that doesn’t disappear and hides content? FaceID that doesn’t work after a certain degree of angle, upside down, with various attire, etc?

Nah, it’s not old people buying the 8 Plus. It’s the tech segment that wants a much more refined product with the same internals, bigger useable screen, no color shift, not narrow and teeny like a toy, and, wait for it, don’t validate their self worth from a cell phone lmao. Bless your heart. Go show your friends your new X. But don’t cry if they react the same as others have to the 3 on my table.....not giving one ****.

I’m chuckling at how hard you are working to rationalize your last-gen device. This is really good, you’ve done well!

 

[thadoggfather]

I’m chuckling at how hard you are working to rationalize your last-gen device. This is really good, you’ve done well!

I still like my 7Plus it's not going anywhere

Some people are just more comfortable with tried and true tech(Touch ID / LED)

Or can't learn gestures that easily even though they're easy. I'm used to swipe up from jailbreak

 

[Technarchy]

That’s cool but what in particular?

I’m curious. I have hands on with 8 and replying from X rn but want to pick your brain for 8+

Primary reason is the display. The 5.5” canvas is just more immersive for the majority of media consumption.

The keyboard is larger. Actually just about everything is larger on the 8+.

The sound from the 8+ speakers is richer, deeper, and less shrill at higher volumes like the X.

The app gap is enormous. Only about 30% of the apps I use are X compatible. Which makes them look like I’m using a 4.7” iPhone. It’s going to take 6 months at least for all apps to be X compatible.

I really don’t like the control center in the top right ear. It just gets in the way having to reach for it all the time.

And here’s a big one. Video cropping. The amount of cropping and zooming you have to endure for full screen on the X is way too high for my tastes or the content is tiny if you run native.

 

[infernoguy]

jesus christ just buy both and call it a day

This!

 

[Hoosier317]

The app gap is enormous. Only about 30% of the apps I use are X compatible. Which makes them look like I’m using a 4.7” iPhone. It’s going to take 6 months at least for all apps to be X compatible.

Now this complaint is ridiculous. The iPhone X has been out since Friday. Many, many apps have already been updated. Complaining about it already is incredibly petty.

6 months?! What a bizarre statement to make. The majority of high profile, popular apps have already been updated. Developers have already said Apple has made it very easy to update their apps for the X.

 

[Technarchy]

Now this complaint is ridiculous. The iPhone X has been out since Friday. Many, many apps have already been updated. Complaining about it already is incredibly petty.

6 months?! What a bizarre statement to make. The majority of high profile, popular apps have already been updated. Developers have already said Apple has made it very easy to update their apps for the X.

You enjoy the wait. Thankfully I don’t need to.

 

[Hoosier317]

You enjoy the wait. Thankfully I don’t need to.

Yes...because you're using the iPhone of the past. Congratulations. I don't mind the wait, considering the vast majority of popular apps have already been updated and the rest will likely come through within the next two weeks. Let's not forget as well, the apps that have not been updated still work and work well.

 

[convergent]

People forget that Apple still wants iOS to virtually be the same on every phone. I can go down to an iPhone SE right now and still have a good experience. Because Apple has a minimal viable experience that just works. I can't necessarily go down to the lowest Android device and have a great experience because that covers the same range.

Apple is a walled garden. A very beautiful walled garden. But most of Apple's devices don't change the overall UX that much. They support their devices for a long time. Apple even mentioned how they didn't want to change iOS because no home button was enough. I can imagine the iOS experience changing once most people have an iPhone with no home button.

Which means it is difficult to justify the big price spread when they are all basically the same iOS. Seems they are nickel and diming on each feature. They used to just pack the new flagship with the best and keep one older model around. Now there are features you can only get on the lower priced models.

 

[gtg465x]

The X is a beta tester for the real OLED iphone coming out in 8 months..... don't feel bad for 8 owners, we went for old Mr. reliable while the X owners provide feedback to Apple on the Galaxy S6 OLED.

As someone who owns a Galaxy S6, and Galaxy S7 Edge, and iPhone X... No, the iPhone X screen is better than the screens on both of my Galaxy phones. Not sure what you’re talking about.

 

[ARizz44]

I’m chuckling at how hard you are working to rationalize your last-gen device. This is really good, you’ve done well!

Nah, you're not chuckling. You are sitting there going man, this guy really knows what he is talking about. He went out and bought the best phone for him, because he feels it is the best phone iPhone Apple has to offer, and hasn't taken to the forums to try and justify his purchase.

Enjoy your phone kid. After all it is your hard earned, or not hard earned money, that you spent on it. Oh, by the way, my last generation device?
- Has the same processor as yours
- Has a wider screen than yours
- Has less wasted screen space than yours
- Has an ID system that can be used in more situations
- Won't get burn-in (as Apple themselves acknowledged to)
- Has the same main rear facing camera
- Doesn't have OIS on the telephoto lens, yet, doesn't seem to lack either
- Has the same GB ram
- Has more accurate colors
- Already has been shown to have superior battery life (doubt me? Google it)
- Doesn't hide content behind an ugly ass notch
- Doesn't crop video when native 16:9 is used
- Doesn't letter-box video or content in landscape
- Has all apps optimized for its screen
- Shows me wifi, battery percentage, and Bluetooth on the main screen
- Doesn't require an extra step to get to the home page
- Doesn't have screen color variation from angles
- Has the same 25% louder speakers
- Has the same level of water resistence
- Doesn't do animojis, but then again, I am not a 13 year old girl
- Doesn't hide content behind a home bar (in both landscape and portrait modes)
- Doesn't make everything look tiny in portrait mode because it is skinny
- Doesn't have a tiny keyboard for tiny hands
- Oh, and though I am considered wealthy by most standards today, cost me $200 less to have all of the above.

So laugh away genius. Welcome to the world of "hey everybody! look at my shiny new X that, ummm, well, its an X dammit!!"

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Primary reason is the display. The 5.5” canvas is just more immersive for the majority of media consumption.

The keyboard is larger. Actually just about everything is larger on the 8+.

The sound from the 8+ speakers is richer, deeper, and less shrill at higher volumes like the X.

The app gap is enormous. Only about 30% of the apps I use are X compatible. Which makes them look like I’m using a 4.7” iPhone. It’s going to take 6 months at least for all apps to be X compatible.

I really don’t like the control center in the top right ear. It just gets in the way having to reach for it all the time.

And here’s a big one. Video cropping. The amount of cropping and zooming you have to endure for full screen on the X is way too high for my tastes or the content is tiny if you run native.

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But, But, the X is the flagship!! It doesn't matter if the phone is tiny, or cuts off videos, or wastes screen space, or hides content behind a notch, or has worse speakers, or has a yellow tint, or has apps not ready....IT'S the X!! IT IS THE FUTURE......LMAO

 

[biscuitsxluv]

I had the iPhone 6s Plus. Kept waiting for something new. The 7 and 8 came out looks the same to me. Saved my money. Then the X changed my life. It was worth the wait and cost since I didn’t spend money upgrading for a couple of years.

 

[naturalstar]

People forget that Apple still wants iOS to virtually be the same on every phone. I can go down to an iPhone SE right now and still have a good experience. Because Apple has a minimal viable experience that just works. I can't necessarily go down to the lowest Android device and have a great experience because that covers the same range.

Apple is a walled garden. A very beautiful walled garden. But most of Apple's devices don't change the overall UX that much. They support their devices for a long time. Apple even mentioned how they didn't want to change iOS because no home button was enough. I can imagine the iOS experience changing once most people have an iPhone with no home button.

Which means it is difficult to justify the big price spread when they are all basically the same iOS. Seems they are nickel and diming on each feature. They used to just pack the new flagship with the best and keep one older model around. Now there are features you can only get on the lower priced models.

Good point and agreed. It’s one of the main reasons I went “nice phone, but I’m good” when I used the X. My iOS experience is exactly the same on my 8+ which is the same as it was on my 6+. Hardware updates definitely make my experience better in terms of smooth rendering and fast response, which I sorely needed, but the iOS is the same. In a day or two of owning the X, the magic would have worn off and I’m basically on another year of same OS, but having paid more. Just one more reason that the 8+ was better for me.

I think it comes down to that I’m personally ready for a change to iOS - to what exactly, I’d have to think more about it. The one thing I miss about Android is just how nice it was to customize your interface experience. I understand this isn’t an open source OS, but Apple could offer some variations on their own. Maybe this is what they will be doing now that the home button is gone. Again, nothing completely thought out, just some first thoughts based on your posts.

All I know is that so long as iOS is essentially the same, barring compelling updates to the hardware, a too good to pass up deal, or basic necessity, I’m going to be fine not updating every year because I’m not missing anything in terms of the OS. I get the same updates regardless.

 

[convergent]

As someone who owns a Galaxy S6, and Galaxy S7 Edge, and iPhone X... No, the iPhone X screen is better than the screens on both of my Galaxy phones. Not sure what you’re talking about.

Well you are comparing old Samsung tech to the best Apple has.

I had the iPhone 6s Plus. Kept waiting for something new. The 7 and 8 came out looks the same to me. Saved my money. Then the X changed my life. It was worth the wait and cost since I didn’t spend money upgrading for a couple of years.

The X "changed your life"? How so? What different in the X changed your life?

Good point and agreed. It’s one of the main reasons I went “nice phone, but I’m good” when I used the X. My iOS experience is exactly the same on my 8+ which is the same as it was on my 6+. Hardware updates definitely make my experience better in terms of smooth rendering and fast response, which I sorely needed, but the iOS is the same. In a day or two of owning the X, the magic would have worn off and I’m basically on another year of same OS, but having paid more. Just one more reason that the 8+ was better for me.

I think it comes down to that I’m personally ready for a change to iOS - to what exactly, I’d have to think more about it. The one thing I miss about Android is just how nice it was to customize your interface experience. I understand this isn’t an open source OS, but Apple could offer some variations on their own. Maybe this is what they will be doing now that the home button is gone. Again, nothing completely thought out, just some first thoughts based on your posts.

All I know is that so long as iOS is essentially the same, barring compelling updates to the hardware, a too good to pass up deal, or basic necessity, I’m going to be fine not updating every year because I’m not missing anything in terms of the OS. I get the same updates regardless.

You could always go back to Android. The Note 8 is a great device.

 

[naturalstar]

Well you are comparing old Samsung tech to the best Apple has. The X "changed your life"? How so? What different in the X changed your life? You could always go back to Android. The Note 8 is a great device.

I started to edit my post to add, “Countdown to the ‘You can always go back to Android’ post in 3...2...1” because I knew it was coming.

Thanks for reading my post and pulling out exactly what you wanted to infer.

 

[biscuitsxluv]

Well you are comparing old Samsung tech to the best Apple has. The X "changed your life"? How so? What different in the X changed your life? You could always go back to Android. The Note 8 is a great device.

I was exaggerating yo!

 

[1BadManVan]

I’ll never understand the point of these threads and pointless fighting. There is NO such thing as a perfect phone for everyone, everyone is entitled to certain preferences. Whether it’s size or certain key features and design. If there was just one phone to fit everyone, we wouldn’t have HUNDREDS of different models all over the globe.

The power of choice for the consumer is one of the greatest things going for us in the tech world, competition is great. People thought I was nuts to trade in a note 8 for an iPhone 8. On paper, it was superior in many ways, but when it came down to my own real world usage of the phone, it didn’t fit me. Same goes for the iPhone X. Doesn’t make my choice wrong, it makes it what’s right for me.

Get over this constant D*ck measuring contest, if you’re happy with your phone choice then go be happy.

 

[convergent]

I started to edit my post to add, “Countdown to the ‘You can always go back to Android’ post in 3...2...1” because I knew it was coming.

Thanks for reading my post and pulling out exactly what you wanted to infer.

You think I inferred something, but you admit you expected this response? OK. Your post sounds pretty apprehensive about iOS and this hope that Apple will make it more open. That is not Apple.

 

[linkgx1]

Good point and agreed. It’s one of the main reasons I went “nice phone, but I’m good” when I used the X. My iOS experience is exactly the same on my 8+ which is the same as it was on my 6+. Hardware updates definitely make my experience better in terms of smooth rendering and fast response, which I sorely needed, but the iOS is the same. In a day or two of owning the X, the magic would have worn off and I’m basically on another year of same OS, but having paid more. Just one more reason that the 8+ was better for me.

I think it comes down to that I’m personally ready for a change to iOS - to what exactly, I’d have to think more about it. The one thing I miss about Android is just how nice it was to customize your interface experience. I understand this isn’t an open source OS, but Apple could offer some variations on their own. Maybe this is what they will be doing now that the home button is gone. Again, nothing completely thought out, just some first thoughts based on your posts.

All I know is that so long as iOS is essentially the same, barring compelling updates to the hardware, a too good to pass up deal, or basic necessity, I’m going to be fine not updating every year because I’m not missing anything in terms of the OS. I get the same updates regardless.

This, exactly. If you can name something software wise significant that the X does that the 8 Plus doesn't....I'll upgrade. I mean, sans FaceID, Animoji and a lack of home button...I don't see it.

The iPhone X still can't do multi window, it doesn't have a good AI companion, doesn't have access to a file system and several other things. Apple still hasn't exactly fragmented their iOS. My 6 Plus can still do 90% of what other iPhones, even though I upgraded to the 8.

 

[MultiMediaWill]

This, exactly. If you can name something software wise significant that the X does that the 8 Plus doesn't....I'll upgrade. I mean, sans FaceID, Animoji and a lack of home button...I don't see it.

The iPhone X still can't do multi window, it doesn't have a good AI companion, doesn't have access to a file system and several other things. Apple still hasn't exactly fragmented their iOS. My 6 Plus can still do 90% of what other iPhones, even though I upgraded to the 8.

Clearly you haven't seen the OLED display in person. It's pretty incredible to see blacks on the iPhone X. It's literally like the screen is off when blacks are showing. It makes videos and browsing the web/reddit incredible. That alone is worth the couple hundred $$$ increase to the iPhone X. Not to mention ditching the obsolete 2014 design, old touchID, and outdated bezels.

 

[naturalstar]

You think I inferred something, but you admit you expected this response? OK. Your post sounds pretty apprehensive about iOS and this hope that Apple will make it more open. That is not Apple.

You’re right. My second paragraph was my mind wandering on a tangent, thinking/typing without final clarity, which I try not to do since it’s not good in this type of format.

I’m not apprehensive about iOS, though. I enjoy it and like it, because it works, but it’s been basically the same for a long time now. My main point is that with iOS being essentially the same regardless of which version of the iPhone, it was just one more reason that the X wasn’t compelling enough to choose over the 8+.

 

[joeblow7777]

Not to mention ditching the obsolete 2014 design, old touchID, and outdated bezels.

I don't think that you're using the word "obsolete" correctly. And personally, I favour the "old TouchID" over the unproven FaceID. No problem with the bezels either. They don't diminish the functionality of the phone. Arguably they enhance it because they allow for a home button. It's not a fashion accessory, so whether or not some people think it looks "out of date" matters to me about as much as people's opinion of the colour of my socks.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

 

[MrGimper]

Clearly you haven't seen the OLED display in person. It's pretty incredible to see blacks on the iPhone X. It's literally like the screen is off when blacks are showing. It makes videos and browsing the web/reddit incredible. That alone is worth the couple hundred $$$ increase to the iPhone X. Not to mention ditching the obsolete 2014 design, old touchID, and outdated bezels.

From what I've read, blacks are the only colour this screen can display accurately! Everything else is too yellow or too blue. New doesn't always mean better. Bezels don't bother me as they are practical, I don't dismiss them just because others tell me that I should.

 

[linkgx1]

Clearly you haven't seen the OLED display in person. It's pretty incredible to see blacks on the iPhone X. It's literally like the screen is off when blacks are showing. It makes videos and browsing the web/reddit incredible. That alone is worth the couple hundred $$$ increase to the iPhone X. Not to mention ditching the obsolete 2014 design, old touchID, and outdated bezels.

I've had OLED on my Samsung Vibrant, Galaxy Note 3, Nexus devices and several other gadgets. Not to mention the LG 55'' OLED. Nothing you're saying is impressive to me, as the technology Apple is embracing IS NOT NEW!

Like I said, you have not had any issue with Apple recycling the same device over and over again. But now that they finally do a massive change after 10 years, suddenly you've 'seen the light'.

If I'm that concerned about new tech, I'll get me a new Galaxy device or one of the may other non-iPhone devices out there that push the limits.

Many of you didn't care about infinite black levels before, why does it matter all of a sudden. You were happy with the 3.5'' retina displays while Galaxy devices had 5'' AMOLED displays.

Not sure why you're so concerned with what I do with MY money.

 

[convergent]

You’re right. My second paragraph was my mind wandering on a tangent, thinking/typing without final clarity, which I try not to do since it’s not good in this type of format.

I’m not apprehensive about iOS, though. I enjoy it and like it, because it works, but it’s been basically the same for a long time now. My main point is that with iOS being essentially the same regardless of which version of the iPhone, it was just one more reason that the X wasn’t compelling enough to choose over the 8+.

And why I didn't want to buy either one of them vs. my 6s+.