I just cannot justify £1150 for a phone...

[MH01]

I really need 256 , as I'm almost out of storage on my 6S, pre-ordered the 8 plus, though with AppleCare comes to £1100.

Bought a product red from eBay in mint condition with Apple care for £650 , that is £700 less than the X . Going to return the 8.

The x is just too much ..... and I have always bought the top spec iPhone. Tim Cooks apple has tuned me off buying new iPhones each year, I now keep them for 2 years and pick up a excellent condition model that is being replaced for almost 1/2.

My only complaint about the x is that it is a S8, probably a better S8, I returned the S8 cause touchid is such a better and more intuitive way to interact with a hand held device , being able to log into it without having to look Straight at it, like the s8

 

[IllIllIll]

Reading your last three posts, you seem to have a lot of contempt for people who favor Apple. Not sure if you're an iPhone user as well?

Not sure I understand your position...

Edit: I'm not referring to your post I quoted above, rather the three posts you made preceding...

I'm an iPhone owner/user since the 5, yes. But I'm also a realist. The only people I have contempt for are those who blindly favor Apple based on ignorant preconceived notions.

 

[page3]

You’re paying 1150 pounds because of Brexit and the weak pound. It’s more expensive in the UK than just about any other country in the world. I’m not sure if those anywhere else realize this. Yes in the US we get it cheaper than just about anywhere else. I live in Oregon so I get it for 999 with no tax so I realize for me it’s a much easier purchase for me. Also in the US the time of cell phone contracts is gone, we pay 0% installment loans so I can pay 45 bucks a month, nothing down, and no interest so the cost of the phone basically doesn’t make any difference to me. So for those outside the US you need to realize that’s the lens us Americans are viewing this purchase.

Brexit has nothing to do with it. We’re paying £999 because Apple believe it will sell at that price. They’re probably right and I’ll no doubt pick one up because I rather like the look of the X, 64gb is plenty for me and I fancy a new shiny toy.

 

[AFEPPL]

BREXIT has nothing to do with it, but I'm confused why BREXIT gets blamed for everything?? Media spin again!!

Here's a comparison table.

UK is one of the "cheapest" places to buy an iPhone, but its "fair" to say prices have increased.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/04/cheapest-country-to-buy-an-iphone/

 

[riverer]

I think justify is a poor choice of word, since it implies you don't have a choice or are being forced somehow.

A better statement would be 'I can't feel good about spending £1150 on a phone', since ultimately for a luxury item thats the reason people will buy it, to enjoy having it. I think I probably could justify it, since I have the cash and I earned it, so its my call, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't feel good spending that amount on a phone.

 

[matty.p]

BREXIT has nothing to do with it, but I'm confused why BREXIT gets blamed for everything?? Media spin again!!

Here's a comparison table.

UK is one of the "cheapest" places to buy an iPhone, but its "fair" to say prices have increased.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/04/cheapest-country-to-buy-an-iphone/

This is a more relevant price comparison. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/14/much-does-iphone-x-cost-around-world/ and tbf tax is included in the U.K. spruce. I’m not sure what VAT is on a mobile phone currently but that’s part of the price as well.

 

[AFEPPL]

UK Charges 20% for VAT which is included in the price stated.
Portland is 0 in terms of sales tax - but you could be paying an additional 10% on the given price in some US states for the same device..

Tax is tax, the state wants its pint of blood - its just extracted in slightly different ways.
But the UK is not the most expensive by any measure, but i would agree its "significantly" over priced even with the apple tax.

 

[matty.p]

UK Charges 20% for VAT which is included in the price stated.
Portland is 0 in terms of sales tax - but you could be paying an additional 10% on the given price in some US states for the same device..

Tax is tax, the state wants its pint of blood - its just extracted in slightly different ways.
But the UK is not the most expensive by any measure.

Oh for sure I just wanted to be fair. A lot of people on the thread were comparing US v UK interchangeably. The contracts are very different. US doesn’t have a payment down usually, UK tax is included in the price where we pay at purchase. Etc etc. it really does change the calculus for people. And yes the US has it much cheaper than most countries and Oregon has it cheaper than like 47 other states.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Oh for sure I just wanted to be fair. A lot of people on the thread were comparing US v UK interchangeably. The contracts are very different. US doesn’t have a payment down usually, UK tax is included in the price where we pay at purchase. Etc etc. it really does change the calculus for people. And yes the US has it much cheaper than most countries and Oregon has it cheaper than like 47 other states.

The UK is compared because many posters here are British. It's a significant market for the iPhone and we've watched the price of an iPhone go from £619 to £1000 is just 2 years. Nobody is debating that if you tried to buy in Ethiopia or Bali you'd probably pay significantly more again. People are simply frustrated that we're being squeezed when we have such a loyal consumer base. I just can't remain enthusiastic and it then puts the actual products under the microscope. I'm still mystified as to how this phone is worth £1000?

 

[one more]

This makes me really sad there is no mid ranged iPhone. It makes me sad there is no iPhone 5c follow up, I loved that little phone, but I had to upgrade for Touch ID.

Totally agree on your X sentiment - a seriously overpriced piece with a questionable screen aesthetics (the black sticking out bit). Wireless charging is not a must either. Once they polish the tech, it should go down in prices, same way as it was with 5S at the time.

If needed, you can still opt for SE (great price-feature combination) or now discounted 6S or 7, if you prefer bigger screens.

However, we do not need to feed now rather chunky Apple cash cow every single year. Vote with your wallet, skip the overly expensive tech, thus helping Apple to realise their pricing mistake as they did with the original iPhone.

 

[scaramoosh]

People say "I've read your last posts and you seem to hate Apple".......

iPad Pro 12.9 + Stylus
iPhone 6s
Apple Watch
Apple TV
iMac 27 inch that cost me £2569
Macbook 12
Airport Extreme Router

I hate Apple??????????


No Apple do a lot of dumb crap! I'm not going to blindly love everything they do.... I mean am I meant to praise Apple for not allowing me to switch between built in iMac speakers and external Speakers? You have to unplug the Jack each time which is stupid, I don't have to do that on any other PC I own.

Am I meant to praise Apple for Apple TV? It's ****, the remote sucks, the typing interface sucks, the App sucks, there is no content on it.... it's crap...

Am I meant to praise Apple for not allowing me to manage my files on the iPad Pro? It's meant to be a pro device!




I love the Router, I love my Watch despite not being allowed custom watch faces..... I love my iPhone and I love my Macs...

But no not everything is perfect when it comes to Apple.
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Oh for sure I just wanted to be fair. A lot of people on the thread were comparing US v UK interchangeably. The contracts are very different. US doesn’t have a payment down usually, UK tax is included in the price where we pay at purchase. Etc etc. it really does change the calculus for people. And yes the US has it much cheaper than most countries and Oregon has it cheaper than like 47 other states.

But the price mark up for the UK is not 20% and the Pound is rebounding now too.

 

[Jervasio]

I really need 256 , as I'm almost out of storage on my 6S, pre-ordered the 8 plus, though with AppleCare comes to £1100.

Bought a product red from eBay in mint condition with Apple care for £650 , that is £700 less than the X . Going to return the 8.

The x is just too much ..... and I have always bought the top spec iPhone. Tim Cooks apple has tuned me off buying new iPhones each year, I now keep them for 2 years and pick up a excellent condition model that is being replaced for almost 1/2.

My only complaint about the x is that it is a S8, probably a better S8, I returned the S8 cause touchid is such a better and more intuitive way to interact with a hand held device , being able to log into it without having to look Straight at it, like the s8

Not that it matters to this topic, but you don't need to look at the S8 to unlock it.. there's a fingerprint AS AN OPTION, which is what Apple should have gave us...

 

[MH01]

Not that it matters to this topic, but you don't need to look at the S8 to unlock it.. there's a fingerprint AS AN OPTION, which is what Apple should have gave us...

Agreed. The S8 solution is better in my opinion, as it still has a finger scanner and a home button. I'll have to use the x to see.

 

[ct2k7]

I don't want to pay £1150 either which is why i'm going on contract

So you want to pay more?

 

[The Game 161]

So you want to pay more?

That's not the point

Paying this off in one go isn't ideal. Paying something over 12 months is.

Paying it it off monthly is a far easier process and with the option to upgrade every 12 months the payment just carries on to the next phone

 

[The Game 161]

Agreed. The S8 solution is better in my opinion, as it still has a finger scanner and a home button. I'll have to use the x to see.

And with facial recognition you don't need to swipe up to unlock it. It just opens

 

[ct2k7]

That's not the point

Paying this off in one go isn't ideal. Paying something over 12 months is.

Paying it it off monthly is a far easier process and with the option to upgrade every 12 months the payment just carries on to the next phone

Maybe it’s just me but I prefer the pay the whole thing in one go.

 

[MH01]

And with facial recognition you don't need to swipe up to unlock it. It just opens

When ur phone is locked , faceid will unlock it but you need to swipe to remove the lock screen .

Take note, you need to swipe up once unlocked...... for me touching Touchid removed the step needing to look at the phone, wait and slide up.... Touch ID is faster, and more intuitive

 

[AFEPPL]

The UK is compared because many posters here are British. It's a significant market for the iPhone and we've watched the price of an iPhone go from £619 to £1000 is just 2 years. Nobody is debating that if you tried to buy in Ethiopia or Bali you'd probably pay significantly more again. People are simply frustrated that we're being squeezed when we have such a loyal consumer base. I just can't remain enthusiastic and it then puts the actual products under the microscope. I'm still mystified as to how this phone is worth £1000?

It's not just the UK, device costs have significantly increased over the years.
And i agree, the devices are now to a level where I'm questioning their value and thats nothing to do to where i sit on the income ladder.

 

[MH01]

It's not just the UK, device costs have significantly increased over the years.
And i agree, the devices are now to a level where I'm questioning their value and thats nothing to do to where i sit on the income ladder.

Remember buying top of the range iPhone 4 for £599. Today Apple wants me to pay £1150.

Interestingly the iPhone 4 was so so so far ahead of the competition at the time. The x is playing catchup and I'm expected to pay over twice as much for a phone that is 2010 was so far ahead.

And a few days earlier Cook comes out saying apple products are not for the rich.....

Sure I'm not rich, can afford it, just see very poor value. Updating to the latest and greatest each year for £599 I was fine with, £1150 + £200 AppleCare..... the SE looks the goods each year, I don't need gimmicky crap like animoji

 

[maflynn]

Remember buying top of the range iPhone 4 for £599. Today Apple wants me to pay £1150.

I know and I'm worried this is the new normal. I for one am very hesitant to plunk down that much money. Given that its a Gen 1 product just increases my hesitancy.

And a few days earlier Cook comes out saying apple products are not for the rich.....

I know, talk about foot in mouth moment. Sorry, but when you offer watches that are priced at 1,300 dollars and a phone at 1,000 (US) you are catering to the rich.

 

[rawCpoppa]

You guys complain that smartphones are beginning to reach a level of diminishing returns yet you're complaining that the top tier phone is too expensive. Truth is you only believe the diminishing returns statement to justify not buying the X.

Great, no problem. Do what car buyers do and simply get the cheaper model without moaning.

There is an entire range of Apple products catering for the not so rich to the rich. It's not like all their watches start at $1300.

 

[MH01]

That's not the point

Paying this off in one go isn't ideal. Paying something over 12 months is.

Paying it it off monthly is a far easier process and with the option to upgrade every 12 months the payment just carries on to the next phone

Leasing is not ideal for many either.

And the x will cost me £64 per month £768 ..... think I can sell a x in a years time for over £400 ?
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You guys complain that smartphones are beginning to reach a level of diminishing returns yet you're complaining that the top tier phone is too expensive. Truth is you only believe the diminishing returns statement to justify not buying the X.

Great, no problem. Do what car buyers do and simply get the cheaper model without moaning.

There is an entire range of Apple products catering for the not so rich to the rich. It's not like all their watches start at $1300.

What about when one iPhone catered for everyone? Now there is a divide between what the "poor" and really well off can afford .

The vision of apple was products for everyone. And thanks to Angela etc, we now have apple products some will never afford

 

[maflynn]

There is an entire range of Apple products catering for the not so rich to the rich. It's not like all their watches start at $1300.

No but the fact remains that other phone makers are able to produce a premium product that has even more features then the X for around the price of the the iPhone 8, never mind the X.

The X does not represent apple innovation, but rather apple catching up. I'm not anti-apple but I'm disappointed that the features in the X have been in other phones for years. imo, the X should have been the iPhone 8.

 

[AFEPPL]

For me its real simple, it has to represent value for what you are getting and its no longer doing that for me.
I'm ok dropping 150k on a super car and I have done so a few times, but I'm not dropping 1k on an X that does nothing more than i can do on my 6s or 7 now. YMMV.