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I think I got scammed on eBay (Help)
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Tagging to this thread for advice.
For domestic sales, is it advisable to use UPS over USPS? I plan on actually going to the post office/UPS Store to ship the item, just to make sure, but USPS just is cheaper to ship and faster.
Say the same situation happens for domestic sales (knocks on wood) and the buyer claims he didn't receive the item in the box. If I sent via USPS Priority (or Express) with signature confirmation, would Paypal still side with the buyer? I know a lot of factors go into the claim process but I just want to justify paying much more for UPS that also, mind you, that Ground is much slower than Priority Mail in many cases...
Thanks!
For domestic sales, is it advisable to use UPS over USPS? I plan on actually going to the post office/UPS Store to ship the item, just to make sure, but USPS just is cheaper to ship and faster.
Say the same situation happens for domestic sales (knocks on wood) and the buyer claims he didn't receive the item in the box. If I sent via USPS Priority (or Express) with signature confirmation, would Paypal still side with the buyer? I know a lot of factors go into the claim process but I just want to justify paying much more for UPS that also, mind you, that Ground is much slower than Priority Mail in many cases...
Thanks!
This is why I sell all my valuables via craigslist. No middle man at all and I don't get screwed. As long as you meet at a secure location, you're good. I even invested in a counterfeit pen. So far, I haven't had no issues with craigslist at all.
Sorry, but the chances of meeting a loon far outweigh the cost of a used iPhone. Too many Craiglist horror stories, like this past week the guys who got killed responding to a Craiglist job offer.
I don't think so.
The story you're referring to happened in a back woods area. That should have been the first red flag for any job posting. That's why you have to be smart and only meet in public places.
I met a seller in a safe, commercial area and the transaction soured over price/condition of item vis-a-vis his description. The seller was steamed, but luckily I brought along the well muscled husband of a co-worker (would have brought my LEO brother, but I was at work), so a confrontation was averted.
I agree with zboater: a transaction can go badly when face-to-face in ways that online transactions cannot. I would gladly take a $400 loss any day of the week versus compromising my personal safety.
I had my first experience with selling an iPhone via Craigslist and it went perfectly. I was feeling pretty confident overall about Craiglist til I saw Hey Jude's post. I'm a woman so my safety was a big concern, which is why I would only agree to meet at a Verizon store. And a very busy one at that. It was a win-win as he was able to check on the spot that it was a clean ESN and the transaction went just fine. I did advertise it a little lower than what I probably could have gotten for it but I did that to sell it quickly and figured I'd have more serious offers to choose from. I was right.
I've sold other phones on eBay but never out of the country and all transactions have been perfect. However I haven't sold one in over a year and they were never iPhones, which tend to get top dollar.
OP: So sorry for your situation. Because of my past positive experiences I probably would have done what you did, but I will admit that I chose to sell my iPhone 4 on Craigslist because of some horror stories I've read right here.
I hope it works out in your favor.
Question: Can the OP file a theft report with the police if the recipient is claiming they received an empty box? Combined with the weight of the shipment, assuming they can get that, it seems somehow they should be able to get their money.
I've sold other phones on eBay but never out of the country and all transactions have been perfect. However I haven't sold one in over a year and they were never iPhones, which tend to get top dollar.
OP: So sorry for your situation. Because of my past positive experiences I probably would have done what you did, but I will admit that I chose to sell my iPhone 4 on Craigslist because of some horror stories I've read right here.
I hope it works out in your favor.
Question: Can the OP file a theft report with the police if the recipient is claiming they received an empty box? Combined with the weight of the shipment, assuming they can get that, it seems somehow they should be able to get their money.
You got the guys address, I say buy a plane ticket go over there and kick his ass. Yeah it's going to cost you money, but it should bring you satisfaction. You might even get the chance to steal your phone back, maybe even some other cool gadgets.
I don't see any difference in going with either carrier in that situation. I always send USPS Priority with delivery confirmation and insurance if necessary. Never had that sort of problem though (knock on wood). As a previous poster mentioned, as long as the weight of the package matches up (on your receipt from USPS), you should be okay.
Ebay/PayPal almost always gives the buyer benefit of the doubt.
If you properly insured the package, you should be able to make an insurance claim. After all, that's what insurance is for. I would suggest you pursue this avenue and not waste your time on eBay/PayPal appeals.
Good luck!
I know you are just joking but if you are not: its likely address he gave OP isn't his real address. When I pretend I believe Nigerians and give them fake PayPal address I always get "real paypal confirmation assuring me 100% that buyer is confirmed." The address is always some shopping center. One of the examples I got this past Thursday. I am not removing scammers email address maybe some of you will want to bait him
Hello XXXXXX@gmail.com,
You have an instant payment of $520.00 USD from Ann Duran (ann.duran0101@gmail.com)
You are required to ship out the item and get back to us with the tracking number.
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #8674588674337639X)
Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
Nov 17, 2011 XXXXXX@gmail.com Pending - $520.00 USD
Related Transactions
Date Type Status Details Amount
Nov 17, 2011 Charge Form Credit Card Complete Details -$520.00 USD
Funding Type: Credit Card
Funding Source:$3,000.00 USD - Visa Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-1014
This transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL".
You can report a transaction problem in the Resolution Center within 45 days of this payment.Have a problem with this transaction?
Merchant:
XXXXXX@gmail.com,
Note to seller
You have to provide to us the shipment tracking number so that your funds can reflect in your account as soon as possible.
Shipping address - confirmed
Name: Rotimi Johnson
Address:Block 95 Flat 5 Jakande Estate.
Isolo
Lagos,
Nigeria
23401
Shipping details
USPS Post Office
REGISTERED MAIL
Description Unit price Qty Amount
Goods
Fee Amount
Total
$520.00 USD
$00.00 USD
1
$520.00 USD
$00.00 USD
$520.00USD
Issues with this transaction?
You have 2 days from the date of the transaction to open a dispute in the Security Center
IMPORTANT NOTE: This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited to your account until the shipment reference/tracking number is sent to us for verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller.Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited.Send tracking number to us or email us through this mail and our Customer security service center will attend to you. As soon as you send us the shipment's tracking number to us for security purposes and the safety of the buyer and the seller,the money will be credited to your Account.
**PLEASE NOTE**
Once item has been shipped and the tracking number sent to us,
You will receive a "CONFIRMATION EMAIL" from PayPal® Team informing you that the Fund has been credited to your Account.Thanks for using PayPal .
You are require to ship out the item and get back to us with the tracking number or custom form number.
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I put insurance on the package just in case
to OP this can not be true as any thing over $100 insured needs signature confirmation. what is the tracking number on your item
to OP this can not be true as any thing over $100 insured needs signature confirmation. what is the tracking number on your item
you forget you are dealing with russia,
it can be stolen in any stage
even the the last driver, and thats after the weight, and your buyer is out of the iphone,
you will never know,
just forget about it, it cost you $400 lesson to find out that 90% of the people are bad,
He probably can, but it won't do any good because the "thief" lives in Russia. And I can assure you that Russian police would have absolutely no interest in this matter.
A few months back I sold my iPad 2 on eBay when I purchased a 3G version. I had forgotten to check the box to ship only in countries I ship to and a guy from Russia won the auction. He e-mailed me and I told him of the mistake, and how I had heard negative stories about shipping to Russia. He had over 400 positive feedback, so I didn't cancel the transaction. He sent me a very long e-mail of everything I needed to do though. Basically you have to secure the package as tightly as possible in a box. Bubble wrap and bubbles in the box to make sure even if the box was slightly punctured nothing could be removed. Then you tape the entire outside of the box so that if the tape would be broken you would know the box was tampered with. And on the customs claim form you don't put the name of the item (in my case iPad) you put a general term, such as "mobile communication". He received the package in a week and I was left positive feedback.
I'm glad he had helped me through the transaction and everything worked out. I would avoid shipping overseas, I think in my case I got extremely lucky.
I'm glad he had helped me through the transaction and everything worked out. I would avoid shipping overseas, I think in my case I got extremely lucky.