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Everyone keeps saying that the new iPad doesn't have enough juice and while it may be true, I have yet to see an instance where my iPad is jerky or slow. Also, don't forget it has 1 GB of RAM, so should be supported for a while to come. That being said, I highly doubt there's going to be a refresh of the full size iPad at this upcoming event. If there is, I'll be a sad and jealous boy.
 
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No apple produced product has ever invalidated a previous product until now as much as i observed (may be i have limited info). There are my friends who use 3GS and are incredibly happy with it. My guess is that these things are considered before updating or creating a product. This is a part of customer satisfaction. I believe that they have a technology and ability to produce a very innovative product in a completely different way. If they wanted they could produce and market it and kill the previous products. This would be very unwise though.
 
I think it WILL be updated. They have already announced a new port for "the next decade". They just can't have one of their flagship devices shipping with the old port. They at least need to refresh this immediately. Basically, if they don't it means that the new iPad you're buying in 2012 won't be compatible with new decides coming out in 2012 & 2013. At least this will be updated. This is almost certain it think.
 
I cannot see an iPad 3 refresh this late on, there will be a new iPad released probably around March, April next year.

The parts that we are seeing now are a combination of the parts for the rumored iPad Mini and the parts for the next gen iPad (iPad 4).
 
Probably you have not dug deep enough in the previous rumors...

The previous rumour based on a sole product iD pointing to an unknown iPad 3 model you mean?

If this was to refresh and replace current iPad 3 line it would need 6-7 product iD's to correspond to the storage and wifi / wifi-Cellular options.

1 solitary iD / SKU could simply be the 16GB new iPad which will need the lightning port refresh that inevitably launches alongside the 2013 iPad in March next year.
 
I think it WILL be updated. They have already announced a new port for "the next decade". They just can't have one of their flagship devices shipping with the old port. They at least need to refresh this immediately. Basically, if they don't it means that the new iPad you're buying in 2012 won't be compatible with new decides coming out in 2012 & 2013. At least this will be updated. This is almost certain it think.
The iPod classic hasn't been updated either. And what about the iPhone 4S which probably still sells millions? Or the iPhone 4 which will be sold at least several tens of thousands times a quarter.

It's not that I think that they will NOT upgrade the iPad 3, but I believe the argument "they will because it's their flagship iPad" isn't really that convincing.
 
The previous rumour based on a sole product iD pointing to an unknown iPad 3 model you mean?

If this was to refresh and replace current iPad 3 line it would need 6-7 product iD's to correspond to the storage and wifi / wifi-Cellular options.

1 solitary iD / SKU could simply be the 16GB new iPad which will need the lightning port refresh that inevitably launches alongside the 2013 iPad in March next year.

No, I don't mean that. I meant the circulating rumour that there will be refreshment to the full-sized iPad line. That's it.
 
Why couldn't you, or some other people as you have claimed, be more rational when it comes to upgrading your iDevice? What I meant is that, you could have evaluated each new generation of iDevice, just to see if it is worthy of an upgrade, and make your decision based on that rational evaluation. It is perfectly possible, and frequently true, that the new features introduced in a particular generation of device do not appeal to you at all, in which case you could just shy away from upgrading. Wouldn't that be better than blindly sticking with the annual, or whatever time^(-1) as Apple deems good, upgrade cycle?

If Apple decides that the technology advancement within the past few month has enabled them to make a new device that is sufficiently advanced to be called the next generation, why would they hold the device just because of your irrational upgrading habit? There are many many other people, me included, who would be happy if Apple could release a new device as soon as they have accumulated enough new technologies.

So, in a nutshell, get over yourself.
Get over myself? Thank you for the sage advice....based on an entirely flawed and presumably lazy reading of my post.

I am not sure what you read in my post that suggested I was "blindly" doing anything or failing to make rational choices. In fact, had you read my post properly I think you would have realised I was being perfectly rational.

I am no Apple fan-boy. I've had 2 iPads (2 and 3) and just got the iPhone 5
as a work device. My post was therefore not from the perspective of one of the sheep who'll buy whatever comes out of Apple.

My point was that with an annual upgrade cycle, you can apply rationality. With a more frequent upgrade cycle there will always be that "but what if in 6 months there is a 'key feature' that I really want". That's human nature with all technology, perpetually putting off buying whilst waiting for the thing that's just round the corner. My rational view is that 1 year is not "just round the corner", but 6 months is.

I actually made that rational choice with the new iPad. Nothing wrong with my iPad 2. Nothing at all. But, screen quality is something I highly value to I elected to upgrade. Had it not been for the screen upgrade then I wouldn't have done it, and I wouldn't have done it if I had thought that just round the corner there was be a model with an improved screen AND other improvements I may value - I would have held off a few months for the improved screen.

Right now, I can't imagine that I will want to upgrade next time round...but then I can make that choice at the time. As can others, you included.
 
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One might argue that the reason they did not update the 4S (with a Lightning connector) is because it is not the "latest" model in that lineup. The "new" iPad currently is....saying that Apple won't update the new iPad because the 4S wasn't is not valid. If that was the case that would have to update all the previous touches and nanos too...which won't happen as they are "old" - just like the 4S


The new iPad is currently less powerful that the iPhone 5 which is a shame, it does stutter and glitch sometimes (rarely) and its a shame. Here's hoping the new model (or revision) gets a CPU boost as that's what it needs! ASAP!
 
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Since my ipad 3 is as close to perfect as an ipad can get, i wont upgrade for a while, those with lag issues, you either are doing something wrong... or you were unfortunate to get a bad batch.
 
Since my ipad 3 is as close to perfect as an ipad can get, i wont upgrade for a while, those with lag issues, you either are doing something wrong... or you were unfortunate to get a bad batch.

No. We are not....the iPad can be set up as new and used and one will still see glitches/lags from time to time....and it's not a faulty batch! The CPU can only just power the retina graphics, when it should be higher spec really.
 
Remember the 'iPad HD' rumor that was going to be released in fall 2011 just a few months after the iPad 2 release?

I think this rumor was legit, and most likely what we know now as the iPad 3. I think more or less Apple was concerned they might have lost their footing with the influx of Android tabs on the horizon. However held back when they saw there was no real credible threat to the iPad at the time.
 
im waiting for a version that supports 800mhz, 1800mhz and 2600mhz LTE. Until that comes along, ill be sitting it out with my 1st gen iPad.
 
If the current iPad is refreshed this month i'll cover mine in tomato sauce and eat it. It wouldn't make ANY sense for Apple to update it half way through their well established annual upgrade cycle. The build up to these refreshes is so intense in the media it obviously boosts sales, they have nothing to gain by updating it out of the blue before "its due".

I agree with the people that have already mentioned that the A5X could do with an upgrade, the extra power over the original A5 is only there to push the extra pixels of its Retina Display. Do remember though, Apple is smart enough to realise that 95% of its user base don't know and don't care about this kind of thing as long as it works.

Despite all of this though, if hypothetically Tim Cook has a sudden urge to release an updated iPad i wont be upset. New products are released all the time, do you see people complaining when none-Apple iStuff is refreshed? Do you give a crap when their Dell laptop is refreshed a couple of weeks after they've bought it? Or if Sony discontinues the TV you just bought and brings out one with better contrast? etc etc. :rolleyes:
 
If a person is going to become emotionally invested in technology one requirement is that they come to enjoy change & accept the fact that your bright, shiny new device is on it's way to being yesterday's news the minute you unbox it.

I will continue to enjoy & love my iPad 3, when a new version is released that has features I need or want I will upgrade & pass this iPad down to someone who hasn't got one & it will be loved all over agin.
 
It largely depends on what you do, and how long you plan to use it in the future. If you play a lot of games like I do, I am sure your new iPad will get obsolete within one or two years, probably sooner than an iPad 2. Of course it works fine for now, but if you, like me, do not plan to upgrade it unless absolutely necessary, the new iPad is not a good option.

But if you only do light things such as watching youtube or surfing the web on your new iPad, it will serve you well for a long long time to come.

Neither of your cases would warrant an upgrade for 2 more years, when the new new new iPad comes out.
 
Neither of your cases would warrant an upgrade for 2 more years, when the new new new iPad comes out.

Just look at the original iPad, which came out roughly 2 years ago. You think you can play current 3d games on them without lagging like hell? In fact many of them do not support the original iPad outright.

Considering that the graphical processing power and ram are only doubled in the new iPad as compared to iPad 2 while the screen resolution is quadrupled, it is only natural to conclude that the new iPad will get obsolete even faster than iPad 2.

Of course I am making these statements from a gamer's point of view.
 
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Get over myself? Thank you for the sage advice....based on an entirely flawed and presumably lazy reading of my post.

I am not sure what you read in my post that suggested I was "blindly" doing anything or failing to make rational choices. In fact, had you read my post properly I think you would have realised I was being perfectly rational.

I am no Apple fan-boy. I've had 2 iPads (2 and 3) and just got the iPhone 5
as a work device. My post was therefore not from the perspective of one of the sheep who'll buy whatever comes out of Apple.

My point was that with an annual upgrade cycle, you can apply rationality. With a more frequent upgrade cycle there will always be that "but what if in 6 months there is a 'key feature' that I really want". That's human nature with all technology, perpetually putting off buying whilst waiting for the thing that's just round the corner. My rational view is that 1 year is not "just round the corner", but 6 months is.

I actually made that rational choice with the new iPad. Nothing wrong with my iPad 2. Nothing at all. But, screen quality is something I highly value to I elected to upgrade. Had it not been for the screen upgrade then I wouldn't have done it, and I wouldn't have done it if I had thought that just round the corner there was be a model with an improved screen AND other improvements I may value - I would have held off a few months for the improved screen.

Right now, I can't imagine that I will want to upgrade next time round...but then I can make that choice at the time. As can others, you included.

So you are saying if apple can bring certain feature, which we as consumers would consider a killer feature, into the iPad, they should inelastically stick to the annual release cycle, instead of release it right away? I can understand your preference if you were Tim Cook, because this might be good for their marketing and other strategies, and probably is what they would choose to do. But I can't understand you since you are a consumer. If you indeed think the feature is much needed, just bite the bullet and buy it. If you are lacking funding, just wait until you have accumulated enough of it, and then go ahead with your purchasing. I can't see any harm done to you either way. By the way, I don't think there are so many so-called features are worth the name killer feature. Most of them are nothing more than gimmick. If you are indeed rational as you claimed you were, you wouldn't need to upgrade to each and every generation.

But it makes a difference to people who needs the feature right away and at the same time have enough financial resources.
 
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So you are saying if apple can bring certain feature, which we as consumers would consider a killer feature, into the iPad, they should inelastically stick to the annual release cycle, instead of release it right away? I can understand your preference if you were Tim Cook, because this might be good for their marketing and other strategies, and probably is what they would choose to do. But I can't understand you since you are a consumer. If you indeed think the feature is much needed, just bite the bullet and buy it. If you are lacking funding, just wait until you have accumulated enough of it, and then go ahead with your purchasing. I can't see any harm done to you either way. By the way, I don't think there are so many so-called features are worth the name killer feature. Most of them are nothing more than gimmick. If you are indeed rational as you claimed you were, you wouldn't need to upgrade to each and every generation.

But it makes a difference to people who needs the feature right away and at the same time have enough financial resources.
Again, you failed to read what was written. Not really a point replying if you aren't going to do so. Where did I say I "need[ed] to upgrade to each and every generation"? In fact I said precisely the opposite.

What I actually said was that - as a consumer - I would be less likely to upgrade each time a new device is released if there was always an upgrade just a few months away. ie I would be more likely, as a consumer, not to upgrade each time there was a new device and would be more likely to do so only when there was that "killer feature". As you rightly state this is likely to be infrequent.

I also didn't say I was lacking funding, but few people have such unlimited cash that we don't apply some rational thinking to our purchasing decisions. Therefore the annual cycle is good marketing just because of that. The upgrades individually may not merit the expenditure, but cumulatively are more likely to.

I would not be upset, angry, disappointed if Apple changed the cycle. Nor did I say I would be in any way harmed. What I said is that it would be likely to mean I upgraded less frequently rather than more frequently. That is me as an individual. I'm not speaking for anyone else or "saying Apple" should do anything.

Please stop mis-representing my posts, if you don't understand my point of view or I'm not making it clearly, just don't reply.
 
I actually think it's important for Apple to refresh the new iPad,

Don't forget outside the USA LTE network's aren't supported on the iPad '3' and the new lightning connector will put people off buying the current for Christmas.

If they update the LTE (for intl. markets) and Lightning connector, i think that's all that will change.
 
Again, you failed to read what was written. Not really a point replying if you aren't going to do so. Where did I say I "need[ed] to upgrade to each and every generation"? In fact I said precisely the opposite.

What I actually said was that - as a consumer - I would be less likely to upgrade each time a new device is released if there was always an upgrade just a few months away. ie I would be more likely, as a consumer, not to upgrade each time there was a new device and would be more likely to do so only when there was that "killer feature". As you rightly state this is likely to be infrequent.

I also didn't say I was lacking funding, but few people have such unlimited cash that we don't apply some rational thinking to our purchasing decisions. Therefore the annual cycle is good marketing just because of that. The upgrades individually may not merit the expenditure, but cumulatively are more likely to.

I would not be upset, angry, disappointed if Apple changed the cycle. Nor did I say I would be in any way harmed. What I said is that it would be likely to mean I upgraded less frequently rather than more frequently. That is me as an individual. I'm not speaking for anyone else or "saying Apple" should do anything.

Please stop mis-representing my posts, if you don't understand my point of view or I'm not making it clearly, just don't reply.

I am afraid it is you who do not get my point. I was saying if you are a rational consumer who makes his decisions based on the available features on the product, his actual needs and financial capabilities, his upgrade frequency should not be altered by the length of release cycles, but by those factors that I mentioned above. So apparently you are not so rational after all. I didn't want to make this sort of clear statement just to be polite. But apparently that doesn't work here.

Regarding your last statement, the same thing applies to you. If it is so difficult for you to catch my point, then just don't reply.
 
I am afraid it is you who do not get my point. I was saying if you are a rational consumer who makes his decisions based on the available features on the product, his actual needs and financial capabilities, his upgrade frequency should not be altered by the length of release cycles, but by those factors that I mentioned above. So apparently you are not so rational after all. I didn't want to make this sort of clear statement just to be polite. But apparently that doesn't work here.

Regarding your last statement, the same thing applies to you. If it is so difficult for you to catch my point, then just don't reply.
No, it is not that I am misunderstanding you, it's that I am disagreeing with your conclusion on the impact on my own decisions.

I am not failing to understand, I am not being needlessly personal, I am not mis-representing what you are saying or suggesting you've said anything you haven't and I am not insisting on repeatedly saying you are not capable of making rational decisions. All of which you did.

I am merely saying that the effect of a more frequent upgrade cycle would be to be more likely to make my upgrades less frequent. If you had simply disagreed with my view and made any sort of coherent argument - rather than a series of somewhat condescending and impolite rebuttals to statements I had not made - then a sensible discussion may have been possible.

With that I bid this thread farewell, and offer my apologies to the OP for the unintended detour.
 
No, it is not that I am misunderstanding you, it's that I am disagreeing with your conclusion on the impact on my own decisions.

I am not failing to understand, I am not being needlessly personal, I am not mis-representing what you are saying or suggesting you've said anything you haven't and I am not insisting on repeatedly saying you are not capable of making rational decisions. All of which you did.

I am merely saying that the effect of a more frequent upgrade cycle would be to be more likely to make my upgrades less frequent. If you had simply disagreed with my view and made any sort of coherent argument - rather than a series of somewhat condescending and impolite rebuttals to statements I had not made - then a sensible discussion may have been possible.

With that I bid this thread farewell, and offer my apologies to the OP for the unintended detour.

It astounds me how people can take things so personally on this forum... Everything is opinion and with Apple that is ever so more the case;) One persons coffee might be another persons tea.. Just chill and enjoy our differing opinions because no one is right or wrong here;)
 
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