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Ilife '09 Shipping!

balahir said:
I have a 10 Mbit connection which gives me around 850 kb/s when I download from a fast server. A 4.5 GB download would take less than 1h 30min to download. Fully acceptable to me.
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Not to be picky, but I think that it would take quite a bit longer to DL a 4.5GB file with your Internet connection.

A 4.5GB file would be about 36 Giga bits.

At 850 kbps, that would take 42,353 seconds to DL.

That would be almost 12 hours by my calculations.

Maybe I am missing something.
 
TheWarIsNotOver said:
Grrr, why is Apple not setting a release date for Mac OS X Snow Leopard? Lol, I know this is off-topic but I want to buy my Macbook at the release date and that also includes having iLife '09 XD
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More likely than not because they don't know either. Remember the problems they had getting Leopard out and pushing back the release date. I suspect it will be the summer at the earliest.
 
sushi said:
Not to be picky, but I think that it would take quite a bit longer to DL a 4.5GB file with your Internet connection.

A 4.5GB file would be about 36 Giga bits.

At 850 kbps, that would take 42,353 seconds to DL.

That would be almost 12 hours by my calculations.

Maybe I am missing something.
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I usually get a minimum of 1Mbps when downloading from Apple's servers

Though, according to http://www.optimum.com/online/why/faster.jsp I get 15Mbps, not 10Mbps as the person you are quoting.

Also according to that website, to download a 750MB movie is 7 minutes, which seems a little bit faster than what I get, so I'll say 15 minutes. Thats about 20 minutes to download a 1GB file. 90 minutes to download a 4.5GB file.
 
My order status says it will ship on Jan.30th, hopefully the date improves since they are starting to ship per the comments here.
 
sushi said:
Not to be picky, but I think that it would take quite a bit longer to DL a 4.5GB file with your Internet connection.

A 4.5GB file would be about 36 Giga bits.

At 850 kbps, that would take 42,353 seconds to DL.

That would be almost 12 hours by my calculations.

Maybe I am missing something.
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He's saying he can get 850 kb/s - kilobytes per second on a 10 megabit line, which is reasonable. It would take him 92.52 minutes at that speed. A 10 megabit line = 10000 kbits / second = 1250 kb/s maximum theoretical throughput so 850kb/s is a reasonable speed for a good server.
 
No luck at Glasgow - if people are getting it in the uk today then chances are it'll make its way onto shelves here by mid-week.

Fingers crossed...
 
jamin100 said:
TNT just delivered my copy here (UK)
but i'm at Bl00dy work so cant install it for another 5 hours grrrr!
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Damn, apparently mine's coming via UPS and they've only received the billing information so far so I probably won't get it to tomorrow. Never thought I'd hope for TNT shipping!! Maybe things take longer to be delivered in London. :(
 
Max E Verde said:
I usually get a minimum of 1Mbps when downloading from Apple's servers
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Then it would take around 10 hours at 1Mbps for a 4.5GB file.

Max E Verde said:
Though, according to http://www.optimum.com/online/why/faster.jsp I get 15Mbps, not 10Mbps as the person you are quoting.

Also according to that website, to download a 750MB movie is 7 minutes, which seems a little bit faster than what I get, so I'll say 15 minutes. Thats about 20 minutes to download a 1GB file. 90 minutes to download a 4.5GB file.
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Sites like that really don't mean much since there are so many variables.

I always joke that I am from Missouri, "The Show Me," state when it comes to things like this. Actual verses theoretical is usually not the same. This is especially true for ADSL and Cable type connections. The actual bandwidth varies considerable from advertised. YMMV.
 
They just shipped mine from The Netherlands. UPS haven't picked it up yet, but i guess they do that today and then i get it tomorrow:)
 
Spanky Deluxe said:
He's saying he can get 850 kb/s - kilobytes per second on a 10 megabit line, which is reasonable. It would take him 92.52 minutes at that speed. A 10 megabit line = 10000 kbits / second = 1250 kb/s maximum theoretical throughput so 850kb/s is a reasonable speed for a good server.
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Ah but he is stating that he must DL a 4.5GB file.

A 4.5 giga byte file is 36 giga bits.

So 36 giga bits divided by 850 kilo bits per second is 42,352 seconds, or about 12 hours.
 
Have any of the UpToDate copes shipped??
From glancing through all the posts it seems all are retail full price copies.

Mine is listed as shipping on the 30th
 
sushi said:
Ah but he is stating that he must DL a 4.5GB file.

A 4.5 giga byte file is 36 giga bits.

So 36 giga bits divided by 850 kilo bits per second is 42,352 seconds, or about 12 hours.
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Actually, when he said 850kilobits, I think he meant kilobytes. So divide that 12 hours by 8 and you get 90 minutes.

When I said 1Mbps, I meant 1MBps. Or 1 megabyte, not 1 megabit.
 
Max E Verde said:
Actually, when he said 850kilobits, I think he meant kilobytes. So divide that 12 hours by 8 and you get 90 minutes.
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Could be.

However, transmission speeds are usually in bits per second and files sizes are in bytes.

Max E Verde said:
When I said 1Mbps, I meant 1MBps. Or 1 megabyte, not 1 megabit.
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Then I would suggest that you state it as 8Mbps throughput.

That way there is no confusion.

In the FWIW category, how about DL'ing Mac OS 9.2 update (82MB) and taking almost 7 hours to do it. Yep, the same file that you can DL with FTTH in around 9 seconds. Times have changed. :D
 
sushi said:
Ah but he is stating that he must DL a 4.5GB file.

A 4.5 giga byte file is 36 giga bits.

So 36 giga bits divided by 850 kilo bits per second is 42,352 seconds, or about 12 hours.
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Stop being a jerk.
You know he meant 850 kilobytes per second.
I.e., 1 Mbps = 125 kBps, 10 Mbps = 1.250 kBps, minus TCP overhead and other conditions making 850kBps rather decent.

Personally, I hate not being able to purchase a download version, as I'm on a 100 Mbps pipe at home.
On a bad day, it gets me 60Mbps (which is what my ISP *guarantees* as a minimum speed within the network), or roughly 7.5MB.
Provided Apple let me use that fully, we'd be talking just over ten minutes.
 
sushi said:
Ah but he is stating that he must DL a 4.5GB file.

A 4.5 giga byte file is 36 giga bits.

So 36 giga bits divided by 850 kilo bits per second is 42,352 seconds, or about 12 hours.
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Well, actually it's 43,369 seconds (36 * 1024) ;) Makes no difference to your final answer though, it will still take him 12 hours at that rate..

EDIT: Well, it would take 12 hours on an 850kbps line, but only 90 minutes on 850KBps line.
 
iLife'09 - Visual Proof in the United States, please

Can some one please take a snapshot of a delivered copy of iLife'09 in the continental United States and submit it to this forum? Thank you kindly, Zbig.:eek:
 
Tallest Skil said:
iLife has never had serial numbers. Doing what you said would be illegal.
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Thanks for the help! Like I didn't understand that..... I was just making the point, that "I bet others are going to use it and sell it on craigs list" because of the no serial numbers. I am personally not going to do that.
 
Great News!!

Hopefully they will be available at my university bookstore later this week! The Canadian Apple site lists it at $99 for the single user version and $129 for the family pack. I sould be able to get it at my bookstore for around $80.

Cheers.
:):apple:
 
Darktrader said:
Thanks for the help! Like I didn't understand that..... I was just making the point, that "I bet others are going to use it and sell it on craigs list" because of the no serial numbers. I am personally not going to do that.
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People always assume the worst.
Sadly, they're probably right in doing so :(

Personally, I will be downloading iLife the second I can, but I've still ordered a copy.
I'm sure there's someone out there who thinks that's illegal, but the way I see it, I've paid for the license, and it's "on its way".
It really is no different from buying a CD and downloading it off the Internet instead of ripping it yourself.
 
pdjudd said:
No real need to, it has been formally announced for availability tomorrow.
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CUPERTINO, Calif., Jan. 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Apple® today announced that iLife® '09 will be available tomorrow, January 27, and features major upgrades to iPhoto®, iMovie® and GarageBand®, with breakthrough new ways to organize and manage photos, create movies and learn to play music. iLife '09 is included with every new Mac® and is available as a $79 upgrade for existing users through the Apple Store® (http://www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.
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