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Ilife '09 Shipping!
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I have a 10 Mbit connection which gives me around 850 kb/s when I download from a fast server. A 4.5 GB download would take less than 1h 30min to download. Fully acceptable to me.
Adobe, for example, offers downloads of many of their 1 GB+ products.
UPS guy just brought my iLife - delivered @ 08:55 AM (Germany) 
Time to pop in the disc and install
Good luck to all the others waiting for the iLife package, crossing fingers for you that you'll get it today as well
Time to pop in the disc and install
Good luck to all the others waiting for the iLife package, crossing fingers for you that you'll get it today as well
I understand that. But im just trying to figure out their price ratios
$80= a cool few tweaks
$130=an entire operating system
it should be cheaper to make a reasonable price to 'what you get' ratio
Face detection
The only feature I want to try before I buy is Face detection in iPhoto.
Its supposed to be able to recognise people and sort the pictures "by person".
Whether this works in real life (or rather iLife! ha - pun intended) is yet to be seen.
What if people get older? Or have a sun tan?
If it doesnt work then I am not bothering upgrading
The only feature I want to try before I buy is Face detection in iPhoto.
Its supposed to be able to recognise people and sort the pictures "by person".
Whether this works in real life (or rather iLife! ha - pun intended) is yet to be seen.
What if people get older? Or have a sun tan?
If it doesnt work then I am not bothering upgrading
I tested this at Moscone. It only works when there is no obstruction of the face and it is a main feature of the photograph. It gets smarter, but after spending about 20 minutes testing how it really works, I'd give it a 5/10 stars. It only gets so smart.
Microsoft has the monopoly. They own the market and can charge what they want. Apple needs to be cheaper to gain it's footing on the OS realm. Eventually a $130 OS will gain ground over the $400 one no matter how many people have the latter.
In the world of Mac, Apple is king (obviously), so they can charge what they want for their stuff. Apple has made it clear that they are in the business to make money; it's just that they have a belief in and motivation to make the best stuff they can (even then I think Apple is so good in part because they need to be that good to keep in the game. once they get their fair market share I think their quality, God forbid, will begin to slip). They wring what they can from their customers; who tolerate such because they get treated so well and are in turn paying for great stuff.
For now, I'm going to play along and enjoy the ride. I'll shell out my hard earned cash because I know I'm getting the best. To me it makes my life happy, to me it's worth it.
If I understand right, the $9.95 is just to cover the shipping/handling costs for the physical disk; you already have the license to run one copy. So don't send off for the upgrade, just buy a single user pack and install it on both Macs, as you'll have a legitimate license for both installations.
nice.. so it will be shipped with my quad imac on tuesday
I'll take an order of that Sir, with a side order of BMA
That's not strictly true. To use one copy on multiple Macs, you need to apply for a 'Right to Copy' iLife. However, since - as far as I'm aware - this is simply an administrative step with no added costs involved - it presumably exists to satisfy lawsuit-averse companies. Given that iLife has never needed any kind of license authorisation, you're probably better off installing your single copy on any computers you like (provided they were purchased on or after the qualifying period for the up-to-date program).
UPS guy just brought my iLife - delivered @ 08:55 AM (Germany)
Time to pop in the disc and install
Good luck to all the others waiting for the iLife package, crossing fingers for you that you'll get it today as well
Excellent! I'm in Germany too, I didn't pre-order, but i'm going to my local 'Premium Reseller' about 1km away. I was going to go anyway, but now I actually have some optimism that it may be there.
UPS guy just brought my iLife - delivered @ 08:55 AM (Germany)
Time to pop in the disc and install
Good luck to all the others waiting for the iLife package, crossing fingers for you that you'll get it today as well
Thank you, but mine is still waiting to be shipped, so it is at the latest possible point of waiting for a tracking number. Hoping it ships today from Pennsylvania (where 90% of my Apple packages have come from and I live an hour and a half from the shipping location according to my memory and Google maps) and comes tomorrow. Hoping. Still says Feb 2nd but I bought it the day of the keynote and Apple has historically estimated later than they actually come.
You can't just compare them like that, they are completely different things.
You don't expect every piece of software to be less than the OS do you? Software like Adobe's Suites and many other high end software can cost into the thousands.
IMO the OS should be fairly cheap (but the company still has to make enough money to get their money back from R&D) compared to most of the software you can get for it.
If we didn't have iLife how much would we pay if another company had made these products? Probably at least in the $50 range for each piece of software.
Just think of it this way, if we were stuck with Microsoft we'd all be paying $400 retail for the real deal OS, and $500 for the office suite, and probably $500 for an iLife equivalent (if MS could muster the talent to actually create it that is).
You could also always buy the Mac Box Set if you feel really bad about the price, since for the price of iLife and iWork you get Leopard included for free.
Same here, though I prefer having physical media.
Still, I know a lot of people prefer to just download it, and 4.5GBs won't take long, with the combination of my fast internet connection and Apple's super-fast download servers.
Plus, I bet Apple is already serving up 4GB+ downloads. Some movies I download on iTunes are about 1.5GBs or more. If you rent a movie on Apple TV in HD I bet it's at least twice that.
Alas, no success. But, for those looking to buy at a retail store, she did say (in German, so I may be wrong...) that it could arrive at any time this week. That seems to be the general theme going around. It's pretty much pot luck as to when you can get it.
Apple is not competing with anybody on the OS market. If they were, they would make OS X also available for non-Apple hardware. But as it is today, you need to buy one of their premium priced machines to get your hands on OS X. And that is exactly the reason why their operating system won't gain much more market share than it already has - people want to freely choose their hardware, they want customizable and upgradable machines AND they want them cheap. Apple does not offer anything for the mass market except their iPod gadgets.
Furthermore, for a magnitude of reasons, Apple's platform is not ready for the enterprise market either - and that is where the real volume of soft- and hardware is sold.
However, have I mentioned that almost all Intel-based Macs also have a Windows installation in one way or the other? (BootCamp, VMWare, Parallels.) What in reality happened that Microsoft was able to increase their Windows sales because the last bastion against Windows finally opened its gates for it. This is the main reason why Apple has been able to sell more hardware units than in the years before their switch to Intel CPUs.
About the price: You can buy Systembuilder versions of Windows for less than the retail price of OS X. Since the OS X retail boxes come without any support, they have to be compared with Microsoft's systembuilder versions - the Microsoft retail boxes include two technical support requests (and technical support points don't come cheap).
Unless Apple opens Snow Leopard for compatible(!) third party computers (built after Apple's technical specifications), they won't ever grow out of their 10% niche. And don't tell me they're comfortable there. Thanks to iTunes and the iPod, Apple Inc. has finally become a mass market company, and it is their responsibility towards their shareholders to keep growing. And they could grow much faster if they dropped their last century computer business model.
Two things:
1. I am currently in NY. Does anyone know if iLife09 is in the Apple retail store on 5th avenue?
2. I've ordered the new 17" MBP, but obviously it hasn't arrived yet. But will I be able to upgrade to iLife09 for $9.95?
1. I am currently in NY. Does anyone know if iLife09 is in the Apple retail store on 5th avenue?
2. I've ordered the new 17" MBP, but obviously it hasn't arrived yet. But will I be able to upgrade to iLife09 for $9.95?
I'd think it would be in the 17" box, as I thought the reason they delayed it until the end of January was so they could pre-install iLife. However, if it is not pre-installed, then yes, you can upgrade to iLife for $9.95, but I think that can only be done online.
Since you've ordered the new 17" MBP, I wouldn't go to the Fifth Avenue store unless you have another purpose (just to see it's marvelous design is good enough reason to go IMO).