Distributing illicit copies is most definitely illegal. I wonder if torrenting is considered a part of that? It must be.
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Distributing illicit copies is most definitely illegal. I wonder if torrenting is considered a part of that? It must be.
Yes, many get less than what's advertised, but not *one tenth* of what's advertised.
He's infinitely more knowledgeable about his own Internet connection and what it can perform, and so you should trust his maths over your reading comprehension when it comes to his Internet connectivity (really, it's kind of difficult to get 4600/X/60 wrong).
Far from everyone uses proper capitalization, so while there's no difference between "kbps and kb/sec" grammatically speaking, there's a world of difference in what's meant.
At the very least, I and others easily saw what he meant, whereas you're the only one who grossly misinterpreted his post (and I don't mean this as an attack on you).
Now, I probably overreacted -- but I just don't see how anyone can make the mistake you did when the time difference is so great.
You're right that throughput is measured in bits per second (or variations thereof), but you're seriously neglecting the part where every major client measures things in bytes per second (i.e., Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Opera, FlashFXP, CyberDuck, Azureus/Vuze/whatever it's called these days, uTorrent).
In other words, it's very easy to understand what the poster meant.
The problem with getting less than advertised has almost nothing to do with the actual technology used (be it FTTH, FTTC, DSL, Cable), but everything to do with oversubscription.
Sadly, it's common that the actual infrastructure is oversubscribed to the point where people rarely get the advertised speeds.
Japan's Internet connectivity is not under debate -- I think it's great that there's a lot of pioneering going on there, but there really is no need for you to go on about how throughput is sacred in Japan, whereas we in the west can't possibly consider it important. It's just as silly as the Americans beating their chests and proudly proclaiming they have the mightiest military force in the world, the French proclaiming their language is superior etc. etc.
In other words, while everyone rightly has something to be proud of, there's no need to go flaunting it or discounting everyone else.
For most Americans, I would agree (seeing how badly the lines are oversubscribed, and what the ISPs there consider to be good connectivity).
For most Europeans? Nope.
Despite the disheartening situation in the U.K., Europeans in general get what they pay for (thanks to customer protection laws), and anyone who'd consider downloading iLife rather than going to the store to buy a copy is likely to have at the very least a 8Mbps connection.
The days of a DVD taking hours to download are long gone, even here in the west.
Either way, it's a shame Apple don't offer iLife as a download option
You may not be able to buy it from an Apple retail store until tomorrow, but many of those who purchased online have received their copies today. So, in fact, many people have already installed it.
Best Buy already has it on shelves
I just checked my local store at BestBuy.com, at it says they have it ready for store pick up. I just ordered it and on my way out at lunch time to pick it up!
I just checked my local store at BestBuy.com, at it says they have it ready for store pick up. I just ordered it and on my way out at lunch time to pick it up!
I'm well aware of that, but in all honesty, it doesn't lead to anyone who wasn't considering downloading it to actually do so; it just helps others already intent on grabbing it get it faster.
Even so, I'd prefer getting it from a trusted source instead, official or otherwise.
They're not on bps to keep everyone on the same sheet. For the longest time, even when the internet was in it's infancy, the megabyte has been the standard for measuring files.
The ISPs choose to use Mbps over MBps because 99% of people don't know the difference. The average Joe isn't going to know that Mbps is actually 8 times slower than what he thinks he's getting.
Now Apple on the other hand, being the cool guy, speaking in layman's terms, actually measures transfer speeds in kilobytes (KBps) and megabytes (MBps). So since this is an Apple forum, and logically everyone here would be using an Apple, it's safe to say that megabits is not the standard, and is also safe to assume that he really did mean 850 kilobytes per second.
I also believe, but do not claim, the MS measures in bytes as well; but as I'm not a Windows user that may not be the case. So It's usually the ISPs that measure in bits.
Not to beat you down, that's just how it is. I don't really know many people anymore who DL at 100 kilobytes
I usually DL from Apple at a steady 1MBps during the day, and approach 2MBps at night if nobody's on my channel.
Not to say DL would be the best solution to software distribution. As it's been pointed out, Apple surges on introduction days, and the iTunes and MobileMe were overloaded. As is apparent in this thread, there are a lot of people who are avid on getting this piece of software ASAP.
While it would be more environmentally friendly to distribute software through DL, it would not be economically friendly. Apple would need more servers, which costs money. They would need more bandwidth, which costs money.
Apple is no dummy, so I' sure they have researched the possibility of software distro through DL. For now it's better to pick it up in the store or get it in the mail. But who knows. Maybe it's coming sooner than we all think.
Some Best Buy already have it on the East Coast
Hey everyone,
I'm an inventory manager at Best Buy and we should be getting today. Some of the east coast stores already have it. Go to www.bestbuy.com, type in ILIFE 09 in the search bar, add the item to your cart and pick STORE PICKUP and then search by state. Maine has some already and Penn.
UPS or fedex normally arrives between 10am and 12pm, so call you stores and have them check with their inventory dept to receive this product asap.
good luck and please reply to this thread if you get it.
thanks
Ray
Hey everyone,
I'm an inventory manager at Best Buy and we should be getting today. Some of the east coast stores already have it. Go to www.bestbuy.com, type in ILIFE 09 in the search bar, add the item to your cart and pick STORE PICKUP and then search by state. Maine has some already and Penn.
UPS or fedex normally arrives between 10am and 12pm, so call you stores and have them check with their inventory dept to receive this product asap.
good luck and please reply to this thread if you get it.
thanks
Ray
When you download anything in Windows using IE or Linux using say Firefox then the speeds are also in KB and MB. Indeed, I'm not aware of any browser that shows transfer speeds in Kb or Mb.
Apple are using Akamai's CDN for delivery of large files, which means copies already exist very close to you, routing wise.
In other words, while they would have to pay for the bandwidth, they wouldn't have to pay for servers.
No matter what kinds of deals they have with DHL, FexEd, TNT etc., downloads would be much, much cheaper.
You're seriously comparing the retail version of Mac OS X to an OEM/System Builder copy of Windows?
Maybe you haven't purchased a retail copy of Mac OS X, but it does come with 90-days of unlimited telephone support whether or not your Mac is still under warranty. This would be in addition to free product lifetime Genius Bar software and diagnostic support at the Apple Store. Not to mention, you can always use Apple's online service and support (even the "Chat with an Apple Agent") for free.
If your Mac happens to be under AppleCare, Apple will support the shipping version of the operating system and any new operating system releases (that are compatible) within your Applecare warranty (try to get that from Dell, HP or Microsoft).
I think Apple has support covered.
By the way, Apple now offers a "Have an Expert call you" page on their Service & Support Web site where AppleCare will call you within your allocated hours so you don't have to wait on hold.
http://www.apple.com/support/expert/
Thanks Ray, thats exactly what I just did. Waiting for a confirmation email for me to pick up, and I'll be there!
I think there was a little bit about it in a video but it doesn't say much about iWeb at all.
Update:
Best Buy just sent the email that my iLife is ready for pickup. I'll post a screenshot of the packaging when I get home so no one thinks I'm lying
I was somewhat surprised that they actually had it seeing as though most new product comes out on Tuesday's.
Best Buy just sent the email that my iLife is ready for pickup. I'll post a screenshot of the packaging when I get home so no one thinks I'm lying
I was somewhat surprised that they actually had it seeing as though most new product comes out on Tuesday's.
coming soon
My store hasn't got it yet and it says that it will arrive on Tuesday but I have seen us get items early too.
We'll see.......keep checking those Best Buy stores
My store hasn't got it yet and it says that it will arrive on Tuesday but I have seen us get items early too.
We'll see.......keep checking those Best Buy stores
if you get ILIFE, tell us what state you are in
If you get ILIFE 09, please tell us what state you live in
thanks
If you get ILIFE 09, please tell us what state you live in
thanks
On Best Buy it says the Grandville MI store on Wilson Ave has it in stock. None of the other stores have it in the area.
Menlo Park Apple Store did not get any in stock by 11am when I left today incase anyone is wondering
With the official release date being tomorrow, I have a feeling that will be the day it will be in retail stores, unless some other Apple retail stores got it.
With the official release date being tomorrow, I have a feeling that will be the day it will be in retail stores, unless some other Apple retail stores got it.
Every line of this BS wreaks of a true PC Fanboy.
Actually, every word of what you said sounds like a true Mac Fanboy
If Apple stay like Apple they won't get close to PC marketshare. The simplest way to explain this is their stance on Blu-Ray. Want a PC laptop with Blu-Ray? Go and buy one. Want a Mac with Blu-Ray? Wait...
The market at large like choice. If you want a 7" netbook then you can get one. If you want a 13"/14" laptop that looks as good as a MacBook but with all the specs (well, higher usually) then you can go for a Vaio. And so on.
Apple are a premium computer company that are only ever good if what they provide is what you want (or are prepared to put up with because it has an Apple logo on it). A company whose cheapest laptop is $999 will survive, but not in a mass market sense.
I wasn't expecting it until like the very last day of January, or even the start of February. As it stated between the 3rd and 6th of Feb.
My Family pack version had just shipped yesterday, but got the email this evening telling me so. (We expect your order to be delivered to your shipping address on or before 28.01.2009.)