Haha turtle. Gee it Reminds me of... a slow paced animal. And the people that go: "why is this markt negative? Competition is good, right?". This is not competition. This is buying stocks at it's highest price knowing that it will only tumble. Just like the Zune and its brother ZuneHD. At this moment Microsoft is in a state that the more effort and energy they put in their company the more they will fail. By the way, did I already mention that the phones are ugly. I don't care whether m$ or sharp has desinged it. It doesn't make them less ugly.