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Inaugural Summer PowerPC Challenge! July 1-8, 2017

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HFTaylor12 said:
Debian it is. I've read about Debian and it sounds good and easy to install. It also sounds like it's targeted at new Linux users, people coming from Mac and Windows. I'll try it as soon as I have access to my full selection of Macs again.
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No, Debian is not an entry level distro like Ubuntu/Lubuntu etc - it's not rocket science but it does require a bit of work to become fully functional.
It's great if you want to start with an absolute minimal system and only install what you need.
No current Linux distro will beat OSX for speed - if you want that you need to dig into the archives and get an older release.
Not that I'm knocking Linux - I've tried it many times but always come back to OSX because it suits my needs.
Lubuntu 16.04 worked really well on my 12" Powerbook - however, CPU use was pretty high all the time.
 
Dronecatcher said:
No, Debian is not an entry level distro like Ubuntu/Lubuntu etc - it's not rocket science but it does require a bit of work to become fully functional.
It's great if you want to start with an absolute minimal system and only install what you need.
No current Linux distro will beat OSX for speed - if you want that you need to dig into the archives and get an older release.
Not that I'm knocking Linux - I've tried it many times but always come back to OSX because it suits my needs.
Lubuntu 16.04 worked really well on my 12" Powerbook - however, CPU use was pretty high all the time.
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TBH if I ever did get a working Linux installation I'd probably go back to OS X too. It runs all the software I need, it's a platform I'm familiar with, and speed is just fine.

Plus, I probably couldn't get by without Roccat, which only runs on 10.5... I've gotten used to the features like RCouds and Flick and I use them constantly. Roccat support is the only reason I upgraded my iPad 1 to an iPad mini 1.
 
HFTaylor12 said:
Debian it is. I've read about Debian and it sounds good and easy to install. It also sounds like it's targeted at new Linux users, people coming from Mac and Windows. I'll try it as soon as I have access to my full selection of Macs again.
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Aaah. Might try it myself too. Don't know if I should go with 7 or 8 tho. Hopefully it'll install alongside Mac OS X because I don't feel like a format.

Roccat works real poorly on my PowerBook G4 17" 1GHz for some reason. LWK works just fine tho..
 
KawaiiAurora said:
Roccat works real poorly on my PowerBook G4 17" 1GHz for some reason. LWK works just fine tho..
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Roccat uses the WebKit framework found within the system. It's using the exact same rendering engine as Safari 5!

You have to relink it against LWK. What happens when you do this is Roccat will be using the updated WebKit framework from LWK. So it will render webpages exactly like LWK.

To do this, make sure you have a copy of Roccat and the LWK dmg. Mount the dmg and you should see an item called "Relink against Leopard-WebKit". Drag Roccat onto this.
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Then let the script do its thing for awhile. You will see it copying and deleting stuff. All it's doing is making a copy of Roccat, then updating it using the latest WebKit frameworks. The new version will be called "Roccat LepWK".

Let me know if you don't understand any part of this. ;)
 
HFTaylor12 said:
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Roccat uses the WebKit framework found within the system. It's using the exact same rendering engine as Safari 5!

You have to relink it against LWK. What happens when you do this is Roccat will be using the updated WebKit framework from LWK. So it will render webpages exactly like LWK.

To do this, make sure you have a copy of Roccat and the LWK dmg. Mount the dmg and you should see an item called "Relink against Leopard-WebKit". Drag Roccat onto this.
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Then let the script do its thing for awhile. You will see it copying and deleting stuff. All it's doing is making a copy of Roccat, then updating it using the latest WebKit frameworks. The new version will be called "Roccat LepWK".

Let me know if you don't understand any part of this. ;)
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I know, I linked it against Leopard WebKit obviously. The UI of Roccat at is just dog slow for me..
 
Dronecatcher said:
No current Linux distro will beat OSX for speed - if you want that you need to dig into the archives and get an older release.
Not that I'm knocking Linux - I've tried it many times but always come back to OSX because it suits my needs.
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Let me tell you Dronecatcher, probably Debian 7 works faster than OS X 10.5 on my MDD. File manager opens instantly, so do browser pages, for youtube I installed Greasemonkey, viewtube and Vlc Browser Plugin (which is available directly from Debian repository), I compiled Megatools and with it I can use Mega.nz in terminal at the speed of light. Last, but not the least, I managed to get 3D acceleration working. Sooner or later I'll make a video of it.
 
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pochopsp said:
Let me tell you Dronecatcher, probably Debian 7 works faster than OS X 10.5 on my MDD
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Sounds good :)
I did have Debian 7 on my 1.67 Powerbook and it was quite zippy but the touchpad couldn't be tamed, despite every tweak it was never accurate.
Yaboot corrupting made my mind up to go back to Leopard.
 
so yesterday I was with some of my friends and they erased my OS X 10.5.8. and OS X 10.4.11 hard drives on my G5..... :mad: luckily they did nothing to my G4 :)

today I found this out. so I installed 10.4 and updated it to 10.4.11.

I'm gonna try out ubuntu mate 16.10 again, last time I tried to install it won't boot after installing but I think I found a fix

wish me luck...;)
 
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ApplesDotCom101 said:
so yesterday I was with some of my friends and they erased my OS X 10.5.8. and OS X 10.4.11 hard drives on my G5..... :mad: luckily they did nothing to my G4 :)

today I found this out. so I installed 10.4 and updated it to 10.4.11.

I'm gonna try out ubuntu mate 16.10 again, last time I tried to install it won't boot after installing but I think I found a fix

wish me luck...;)
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Some friends... why would they erase your hard drive?
 
Count me in! As I'm tryin that for weeks it shouldn't be that hard for me ;) I use my big fat Windows Tower only for playing games but I can live without that for a while.

As it's my first time I'm not familiar with the @UserName thing you mentioned - how can i participate?
 
amagichnich said:
Count me in! As I'm tryin that for weeks it shouldn't be that hard for me ;) I use my big fat Windows Tower only for playing games but I can live without that for a while.

As it's my first time I'm not familiar with the @UserName thing you mentioned - how can i participate?
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The first post is a WikiPost, so I think anybody but newbies can edit it. Unfortunately, you cannot edit it yet.

Your @UserName is @amagichnich. Mine is @HFTaylor12. Your username, with an @ before it. :)

I'll add you to the list since you can't edit WikiPosts yet.
[doublepost=1491661151][/doublepost]You are on the list. ;)
 
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After reading previous discussion about Linux on PPC today I tried to install two small Linux-distribution within VirtualPC7 without any success....
- AntiX: Desktop showed up with dynamic display of the VM's resources but no possibility to take control over the VM or any cursor movements
- Slitaz: froze during installation process

Anyone here tried to run a small Linux-distribution within VirtualPC?
 
amagichnich said:
Thanks a lot!

Yesss I'm working hard on getting rid of that newbie status ;) but not with spam of course
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You'll become a member and a regular in no time. I've only ever posted about PPC macs and I'm already a regular haha. Keep on posting! ;) (and welcome!)
 
HFTaylor12 said:
I never heard of this fix, thanks for sharing! Hope it works for you!
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I tried ubuntu and ubuntu mate on my g5 and ubuntu has graphical issues with nvidia cards, I couldn't figure out how to do the fix on ubuntu mate the correct way.

I gave up on Linux again and resized the HDD.

I've had no issues with tiger. I really want to get leopard installed but I don't have a DVD for that sadly. :(

also yesterday I thought I lost a Seagate HDD from the G5 but it still works :)
 
ApplesDotCom101 said:
I tried ubuntu and ubuntu mate on my g5 and ubuntu has graphical issues with nvidia cards, I couldn't figure out how to do the fix on ubuntu mate the correct way.

I gave up on Linux again and resized the HDD.

I've had no issues with tiger. I really want to get leopard installed but I don't have a DVD for that sadly. :(

also yesterday I thought I lost a Seagate HDD from the G5 but it still works :)
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Leopard is available for download on the Macintosh Garden. HOWEVER, if you're happy with Tiger, I recommend staying there. Tiger is faster and more stable. I'd like to be on Tiger but I really like Roccat, which requires 10.5.
 
I joined in October 2014, and have only posted in PowerPC except for some rare exceptions and I'm all the way up to a 68000 :D
 
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