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Seeing how HD video can easily be streamed at 25mbps, (via current LTE) I don't see the rush to want a phone that support 5G right now, outside of tech junkies who want to brag they have the latest but can't make full use of it. And even if it were possible right now, would it really be noticed outside of speed tests? I doubt it.
Also, a person bragging about things like that is a very sad person. Let's start from that.
 
I can wait. As much as carriers and smartphone vendors want us to buy into the ‘5G is here’ hype the infrastructure for widespread adoption just won’t be here for some time
Amen. The networks need time to roll out and the battery situation needs to be squared away. I think it will be at LEAST another year. Let Android beta test this along with folding phones.

Anyone remember the HTC Thunderbolt, the first mainstream LTE phone. Search YouTube for Thunderbolt reviews and speed tests. I saw people getting like 6 MBPS down and thinking it FLEW....as the battery drained to nothing in short order.
 
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5G does (very) little for any phone, 4G is already plenty fast enough, on a computer speed could make a difference if you transfer lots of files or other data intensive tasks.
I (right now) have no need for 5G, my home network though is 1 Gig Fiber :) , unbelievably fast.


Who cares. They can’t even get LTE right - 5G will be a laughable effort.

Depends where you are located, works fine here.
 
Just kiss and make up with Qualcomm, Apple!

So much this. It's sad when the petty gets in the way of progress.


Apple isn't last to every technology and when they aren't first, they always make it work better.

Apple also has industry leading silicon.

Come on, dude.
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5G does (very) little for any phone, 4G is already plenty fast enough, on a computer speed could make a difference if you transfer lots of files or other data intensive tasks.
I (right now) have no need for 5G, my home network though is 1 Gig Fiber :) , unbelievably fast.
You hit the nail on the head with "right now." That's the point.
 
I will not be buying a new phone till there is a 5G chip in it. Wouldn't make sense... and hopefully, it is not an intel chip.

Why wouldn't it make sense? What's a 5g phone going to be able to do that a current LTE phone can't do for the next few years? I'm really wondering what the real world uses for 5g on a mobile phone will be when we already have fast enough speeds for pretty much everything.
 
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Kind of bad timing for me. I bought my X in 2017. Skipped the 2018 model. Want to skip the 2019 model too. The 2020 model, even if it supports 5G, will likely be limited (possibly a different model for each carrier, locking you in). The first LTE iPhone, the 5, had really limited bands. In my mind one of the reasons the 5 wasn't sold for a second year, replaced with the more capable, and cheaper to make, 5c.

I can't commit to using my X for 4 or 5 years though. I've never used a phone that long, and something may happen to it.
 
1 - True dat!;)

2 - Monopoly restrictions! If this was China, E-Z P-Z!:rolleyes::D

no.
vertical integration of supply chain would not stop this from going forward.

if you wanted to put forth some kind of governmental objection as you seem to be doing with a merger between Qualcomm and apple then there might be a weak case made for national security, saying that apple devouring Qualcomm might force other USAmerican purchases of wireless tech might need to buy non-USA components. but that would be a stretch when Intel supposedly is an option.
 
I will not be buying a new phone till there is a 5G chip in it. Wouldn't make sense... and hopefully, it is not an intel chip.

That will this year … so soon, just around the corner. Using it for 5G reception … that is in 2025!
 
Why wouldn't it make sense? What's a 5g phone going to be able to do that a current LTE phone can't do for the next few years? I'm really wondering what the real world uses for 5g on a mobile phone will be when we already have fast enough speeds for pretty much everything.

Speed isn't the only thing about 5G. But you probably have good signal and that's great. Others don't.
 
if you wanted to put forth some kind of governmental objection as you seem to be doing with a merger between Qualcomm and apple then there might be a weak case made for national security, saying that apple devouring Qualcomm might force other USAmerican purchases of wireless tech might need to buy non-USA components. but that would be a stretch when Intel supposedly is an option.

I don't know if the vertical integration is the major factor - just thought that the government was against such mergers. They did prevent a few attempts at merger previously; not much since 2017, though!
 
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vertical integration of supply chain would not stop this from going forward.

if you wanted to put forth some kind of governmental objection as you seem to be doing with a merger between Qualcomm and apple then there might be a weak case made for national security, saying that apple devouring Qualcomm might force other USAmerican purchases of wireless tech might need to buy non-USA components. but that would be a stretch when Intel supposedly is an option.

Qualcomm is already on the FTC's *** list. It's not going anywhere.
 
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Just kiss and make up with Qualcomm, Apple!
Qualcomm doesn't have a multi-mode 5G chip ready either, which means that phones coming out this year will have two chipsets (for 4G and 5G), and will be expensive and not very energy efficient. When they do come out, they'll only be sold in small numbers for a while. There is a reason why Samsung didn't mention either a price or a release date for the S10 5G ...
 
4G just about finished rolling out and every phone now able to get 4G now they want us to buy new phones and switch to tariff with higher prices for 5G that barely covers the area for what just because it’s new so what 2-3 years time I may consider it
 
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Why spend $1,000+ dollars on a phone that won't be able to connect to 5G a year later?
. Because most people still wouldn't be able to take advantage of the 5G then. 5G rollout will be very slow for mobile 5G. Most people will be using LTE for a long, long time, even if they have a 5G capable phone.
 
The real world difference between LTE AND 5G is much less than the jump from 3G to LTE. Not a big deal.

The real world difference is about better channel management and less congestion in busy areas, something that's a real problem right now in many places and at events.

Anyway, I don't live in a busy area, mostly use WiFi and just got an XS which I'll probably keep for 6 years so Idc.
 
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The real world difference between LTE AND 5G is much less than the jump from 3G to LTE. Not a big deal.
I guess in real terms I guess it depends on what type of user you are.

Are you someone who is tethering a laptop to the phone - the faster data rates could be welcome.
Are you a gamer? Lower latency could help in games.
Are you using your phone at an event, on public transport - the higher number of available connections would be welcome. (wider pipe)
Are you one of those Apple users that keep their phones for a long time (4-7 years?) or add them to the second hand market? Having a 5g modem in it will future proof them.
Are you a mobile carrier or phone maker? Bragging rights, more money from initial 5g early adopters.


Apple fans like to pride themselves on Apple pushing the envelope by removing all legacy ports to "drive the market" forward. They could do this with phones too by removing 4G and putting in 5G :D
 
By the time Intel figure it out, Apple will have in-house solution ready. The silicon team has been working on it according to previous reports. Then TSMC will make it probably.
 
Apple is always a year behind, or more, on new tech, especially standards based tech. They want it to be fleshed out on release, and "just work". The bleeding edge Samsung devices tend to be consumer funded R&D. At least for a year.

5G is going to be so pervasive and so widespread, and accessible from ground, air, satellite, balloon and other sources. It will give multi-homing a new perspective. It will replace most existing internet access points within 3 years of release.

I still have a dial-up account. :D
 
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When LTE first came out Android phone manufacturers did what they always do and added to their "on paper" value. But those first LTE modems were independent modems outside of their regular 3g modems, and many phones internally connected them by a USB standard. This resulted in awful battery life and a really bad experience, but they had LTE first!

At that time, ATT "4g" using HSPA+ was barely distinguishable from LTE. The real noticeable difference was with Verizon because their 3G has always been garbage.

I am excited for 5G as a home broadband replacement, but it is just not going to be a hue factor for mobile for several years.
 
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