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Well, that's pretty much all of them. I guess, according to you, all other phone makers might as well close up shop and go home. You'll forgive me if I don't take your extensive use of Andriod phones seriously.
That list is extraordinarily long. Can you imagine how much chance he gave to each phone given such a list in such a span?
But if he's made up his mind, he's made up his mind. Whatever shortcomings iOS has, it's clear he thinks they're non-issues or worth dealing with given its advantages. He can spew all the misunderstanding and obfuscation of Android he wants.
Generally speaking, it's becoming very easy to spot who seriously gives both platforms a chance, and who just goes through a phone for a day or two, then thinks they know all the ins and outs of an OS.
Oh well.
That's why widgets are an advantage for Android and not iOS. Widgets are a feature of the os, not a third party app.
What does "riddled with problems" mean in your post listing the devices you've used? Just wondering as obviously different people have different expectations.
I've had three superb Android devices; htc desire, galaxy s2 and galaxy s3. They've all had problems but nothing major. Other then the Galaxy S2 used to reboot often when I first got it, but after I updated the firmware it was all good.
My iPad has a problem at the minute. I have an iMessage thread with about 10,000+ messages in it and it's really slow to load. In Android there's an option to limit the number of messages per thread. Some things are done better on Android believe it or not
We're going around in circles. You still don't understand me. Please, go read what I posted before. According to what you said, you should not be citing widgets as an advantage over iOS if iOS does not have them. You used the example of apps, but it's more or less the same thing.
...and yes, widgets can be and usually are 3rd party apps, aside from the preinstalled ones.
I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on this as well. That is probably the biggest thing holding me back at the moment. I'd be curious to hear how people who had been using Apple's system for many years found it after switching to Android.
I'm thinking of things like syncing music after always using ipods/itunes (it's just there on my iphone), buying a ton of new apps, etc.
Was this a major hassle or did you find it to be new big deal?
The app / software quality and support from Apple is what is holding me back, whether it be software update support or just customer service in general.
I'm in this process.
One thing is if still KEEP the old iPhone, you still use it via Wi-Fi with almost all apps you have and also tie into everything else you have (AppleTV, iPad, Macs or whatever) - you don't need a cell signal for that.
If you go Android, you can still use iTunes and buy MUSIC at least from the iTunes store. There are several Android apps that make syncing to your iTunes music library very easy. As such, you can even use the iCloud for back-up of your music. I assume none of your music is still copy protected - if it is, just joing iCloud service for $25 and get the non-DRM versions.
Movies and TV are another story. You can't play them on the Android device but of course you still can on iTunes itself to play what you already have, or AppleTV / iPad and any other Apple device. I don;t buy a lot of movies (I usually rent) and TV shows I usually just stream from Netflix or Hulu. With Android, you also have Flash support (for a little bit at least) so you can stream TV shows right from some web-sites directly as well, like Comedy Central.
You'll have to replace apps so you'll lose that investment. I just had to at some point bite the bullet and re-invest in apps for Android. The good news is there are direct replacements for all major apps, and I've been able to find reasonable substitutes for more minor apps that i can't directly replace. The only big hole is anything that processes plug-in audio, like guitar input through a software amp. That doesn't exist on android right now.
Truthfully, it's a lot less painful than i thought it would be.
I could break down the issues by phone but there would be no point.
Generally, HTC's were primarily saddled with software issues because Sense is a bloated laggy buggy disgusting mess.
Samsungs were plagued with bad hardware, and connectivity issues. Primarily GPS and reception. Touchwiz was more stable than HTC sense, but battery pulls due to crashed widgets, frozen apps and force closes were frequent.
The Sprint version of the GS2 was the best but it was too big and I wanted GSM so I got the AT&T version; it had a very different flavor of Touchwiz that was not as stable or reliable as the Sprint version; it was missing quite a few features compared to the Sprint model as well. Plus the battery life was total ass.
Then came the iPhone 4S. No more drama. iOS is super stable. Battery life is great. Reception and data speeds are sound. GPS works. No funky hardware quirks. It does exactly what I want it to do, which is not get noticed while I perform smartphone like tasks.
Do I miss certain things about android? Sure, but there is no way in hell I'd go back to the shoddy craftsmanship, poor support, buggy software, updates drama and inferior, less polished app selection.
I can answer this somewhat.... Just got the Samsung GS3 last Thursday.
I do find iTunes nicer for gathering all of your media and providing backups. It seems there ae no readily findings of Android programs/software to fully back up non rooted phones. If they are out there I would love to acccess one!
My Apple Eco system is kinda broken because I refuse to update my iMac to Lion, destroying the purpose of photo stream and iCloud. I have an iPad 3gen which used to share photo stream with my iPhone4, no longer though.
My current phone is so new that the developers apps sometimes don't recognize my device (likely an ICS) issue but not sure.
What I am doing is using that crappy Samsung Kies program to transfer what music I want to my phone. I hope I can send the pics to iPhoto somehow,not sure if I can since I haven't tried it yet, but iPhoto is my primary photo medium.
Right now I am in the learning curve. The phone is beautiful and I am sure I will enjoy it if fragmentation doesnt piss me off too bad. Just want some games I can amuse myself with while waiting in line. My fave game is not currently available for SSGS3.
Most of my apps were free for my iPhone so buying some new ones for Android won't kill me. I can still get my PvZ fix on my iPad
So to answer your question, currently it's a hassle, but I am sure with more exploring I will find what I need.
What I mean is, for a fair comparison it needs to be comparing the features of one particular app on each OS.
Dodge regularly just spews out a load of apps available on iOS that aren't available on Android and cites that as the reason why iOS can do more. Clearly that's a poor argument.
I see where you're coming from, we just have two different perspectives on this. You're comparing direct OS to OS features, while I'm comparing the whole package of what the OS allows you to accomplish.
If you ask a normal user what OS "features" Windows 7 has over Ubuntu that makes him choose Windows 7, he will undoubtedly say "applications". If you press the user to choose an OS "feature", not an application, I doubt he will be able to list many Windows features at all, and will likely just say the Start Menu looks nicer.
What you're saying is simply not how people look at Operating Systems. People view an OS as a portal to their applications. If I'm giving a recommendation to a photographer, I would say "Windows does more for you" and mention Photoshop and other Windows-Exclusive photography applications.
If I'm talking to a gamer, I'd say "Windows does more for you" and list the hundreds of AAA quality games for the platform.
When I list iOS exclusive apps and say "iOS can do more" I am referring to a specific category like photography, videos, navigation, working out, audio, games...etc
I can answer this somewhat.... Just got the Samsung GS3 last Thursday.
I do find iTunes nicer for gathering all of your media and providing backups. It seems there ae no readily findings of Android programs/software to fully back up non rooted phones. If they are out there I would love to acccess one!
My Apple Eco system is kinda broken because I refuse to update my iMac to Lion, destroying the purpose of photo stream and iCloud. I have an iPad 3gen which used to share photo stream with my iPhone4, no longer though.
My current phone is so new that the developers apps sometimes don't recognize my device (likely an ICS) issue but not sure.
What I am doing is using that crappy Samsung Kies program to transfer what music I want to my phone. I hope I can send the pics to iPhoto somehow,not sure if I can since I haven't tried it yet, but iPhoto is my primary photo medium.
Right now I am in the learning curve. The phone is beautiful and I am sure I will enjoy it if fragmentation doesnt piss me off too bad. Just want some games I can amuse myself with while waiting in line. My fave game is not currently available for SSGS3.
Most of my apps were free for my iPhone so buying some new ones for Android won't kill me. I can still get my PvZ fix on my iPad
So to answer your question, currently it's a hassle, but I am sure with more exploring I will find what I need.
It sounds like Google really needs to develop some software (perhaps in the Cloud) to organize everything the way iTunes does. Just easily selecting what music, photos and movies I want through iTunes is very easy.
I do have my music upgraded through iTunes Match so I think I can get all the music I want onto an Android phone but it would be more effort to get everything loaded up exactly how I want it. Certainly not a deal breaker but something to consider.
I can answer this somewhat.... Just got the Samsung GS3 last Thursday.
I do find iTunes nicer for gathering all of your media and providing backups. It seems there ae no readily findings of Android programs/software to fully back up non rooted phones. If they are out there I would love to acccess one!
My Apple Eco system is kinda broken because I refuse to update my iMac to Lion, destroying the purpose of photo stream and iCloud. I have an iPad 3gen which used to share photo stream with my iPhone4, no longer though.
My current phone is so new that the developers apps sometimes don't recognize my device (likely an ICS) issue but not sure.
What I am doing is using that crappy Samsung Kies program to transfer what music I want to my phone. I hope I can send the pics to iPhoto somehow,not sure if I can since I haven't tried it yet, but iPhoto is my primary photo medium.
Right now I am in the learning curve. The phone is beautiful and I am sure I will enjoy it if fragmentation doesnt piss me off too bad. Just want some games I can amuse myself with while waiting in line. My fave game is not currently available for SSGS3.
Most of my apps were free for my iPhone so buying some new ones for Android won't kill me. I can still get my PvZ fix on my iPad
So to answer your question, currently it's a hassle, but I am sure with more exploring I will find what I need.
Don't use Kies for managing music and pictures. Here's what I did:
1. On your iTunes machine, install Google Music and Dropbox
2. Configure Google Music to import the iTunes library
3. If you purchase new music from Google Music, export it to iTunes for other iDevices you might have
4. Configure Dropbox to use Camera Uploads to upload all your pictures to Dropbox.
5. Install Google Music and Dropbox on your new Android phone
6. Now all your Android devices have cloud-based access to all your pictures and music in sync with your iDevices
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Read the above.
Just because the guy writes an opinion on a phone he likes that's not an iphone doesn't mean he's insecure.
No. He's saying he's thinking about switching. He's coming here and posting a thread about what he might do so people will side with him, making him feel better about about switching.
From what I have seen on the XDA forum, the S3 is immune from this? Don't know the specifics, but something Samsung did for the S3 is different.
Oh really?? um.. is it as "safe" as the google playstore?
I will definitely consider this. What I do want is a way to inject those photos into iPhoto though. Can I get them in there from Dropbox? Seems kind of stupid to have to two step it. Also I am against having all of my photos stored in the cloud. I don't own the cloud, but I do own my own HD.
I definitely will look into the music bit that you mentioned.
I think that if they can Root the European version, it is only a matter of time before they can and do Root the North American version.