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Curious what one would be doing on an iPhone that needs the speed afforded by WIFI 6E over WIFI 6? I have Gigabit internet at home with WIFI6 and my iPhone 13 PM can't even use all the bandwidth.
It isn't just about speed. The extra band will be less congested (especially for those who live in something say like an apartment/townhouse.
 
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Many people told me by the time Apple adopts Wi-Fi 6E. Wi-Fi 7 will be out in the market. 😇

February 2nd 2023
Nubia RedMagic 8 Pro will come with hardware supporting Wi-Fi 7, a software update to ship later.

Under Connectivity : "Wi-Fi 7 802.11b/g/n/ac/ax/be (Tri-band 2.4G, 5G, 6G) with HBS support"
 
I'd only upgrade my wi-fi router when

- the manufacturer fails to send Security Updates for more than a year
- my fiber Mbps exceeds the router's Mbps

It is like BTO a 10GbE port when your switch, NAS, fiber and other devices barely touch 1GbE.

Future proofing? 10GbE ports will become cheaper a decade from now when the base model SKU of the device you are upgrading to have it as default.

I do bridge mode with my fiber modem as its built-in wifi and switch capability are terrible. So I get a great WAP, switch and gateway so there is no slow down especially in a install location with 100s of devices.
 
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Money on the soon to be released AR/VR headset needs to be paired with a 6E/Bluetooth 5.3 device?

That's been my belief for a couple years. The heavy lift AR processing (and battery, internet connection, GPS coordinates, etc) is handled in the iPhone in your pocket.
 
my fiber Mbps exceeds the router's Mbps

Keep in mind that wireless speeds are not apples to apples to wired line speeds. WiFi is advertised with throughput numbers and you’re usually looking at bandwidth in real use.

WiFi is also half duplex so it can only do one thing at a time.

 
Keep in mind that wireless speeds are not apples to apples to wired line speeds. WiFi is advertised with throughput numbers and you’re usually looking at bandwidth in real use.

WiFi is also half duplex so it can only do one thing at a time.

A lot of us purposefully get the cheapest fiber plans not because we're cheap but in terms of utility the Mbps is just too much for our use case.

Sure... during the time of copper get the most Mbps as possible as it rarely exceeded 100Mbps but with fiber I can now get 10Gbps for $300/mo.... but all my devices would never exceed 10Gbps sustained use of more than 2 hrs.

Like for say computing for how much Mbps you need in your install location. The highest Mbps use case that we wanted to avoid buffering is 4K streaming video from Prime Video/YouTube/Netflix/etc.

Then multiply that by how many users in said location.

Odds not all end users will be using it at the same time at 100% utility so that's rather conservative.
 
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The intentional gimping is getting really pathetic.
It will probably also come with mini USB and Apple will pay any legal fines just so they can have that "feature" to upsell too.
 
A lot of us purposefully get the cheapest fiber plans not because we're cheap but in terms of utility the Mbps is just too much for our use case.

Sure... during the time of copper get the most Mbps as possible as it rarely exceeded 100Mbps but with fiber I can now get 10Gbps for $300/mo.... but all my devices would never exceed 10Gbps sustained use of more than 2 hrs.

Like for say computing for how much Mbps you need in your install location. The highest Mbps use case that we wanted to avoid buffering is 4K streaming video from Prime Video/YouTube/Netflix/etc.

Then multiply that by how many users in said location.

Odds not all end users will be using it at the same time at 100% utility so that's rather conservative.
Right. The SLOWEST internet plan at my parents’ place is like 400Mbps. I told them, “Trust me. Don’t pay for any plan higher than that.”

How many issues do you think they’ve had? Even when my other family members and I are at the house? Zero. :)
 
Right. The SLOWEST internet plan at my parents’ place is like 400Mbps. I told them, “Trust me. Don’t pay for any plan higher than that.”

How many issues do you think they’ve had? Even when my other family members and I are at the house? Zero. :)
Back during the time of dial-up when we turn on our PCs we'd use the time to use the bathroom.

When we were using copper we'd download the video overnight or during work hours so when we get home we get to see our favorite program.

Point is... be $ smart so do you do not end up penny short.
 
Curious what one would be doing on an iPhone that needs the speed afforded by WIFI 6E over WIFI 6? I have Gigabit internet at home with WIFI6 and my iPhone 13 PM can't even use all the bandwidth.
That's great if your iPhone is the only device in your house using the wifi. That's definitely not the case in my house and Wifi 6E is more about connecting many devices at a frequency with less interference.
 
Many people told me by the time Apple adopts Wi-Fi 6E. Wi-Fi 7 will be out in the market. 😇
We will give your 7 or even 7E when we release our 2nd Gen AR Glasses which come equipped with it so we can force you and others to upgrade your whole setup as it will not run “optimal” on 6E.

We think you’re gonna love it.
 
Is it just me or does the existence of the “Pro” model backfire for other people, too?

Its high price tag makes it completely uninteresting. And it’s existence makes the other iPhone lame by comparison and absolutely not worth getting.

So you end up just not buying an iPhone at all.

IDK, I don’t feel that way about the Mac lineup. I was fine with it when it was just a Plus and regular iPhone. But the “Pro” iPhones really rub me the wrong way. They just make the entire iPhone brand seem icky.
Agreed, I refuse to pay that much for a phone, and now that they seem to be increasingly nerfing the non-pro iPhones I'm feeling like I'll just be upgrading much less frequently. Reality is progress has slowed so much you aren't really missing much with a 2-3 generation old iPhone these days anyway.
 
Point is... be $ smart so do you do not end up penny short.
Words of wisdom, my friend. We’d all do well to live by this.

And yes, I do indeed recall the times of dial up. And then DSL after that. Good times.

Best times were when someone would call and knock you off the internet after you had spent 20 literal minutes waiting for a video to buffer. Then you’d have to start all over again.
 
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That's been my belief for a couple years. The heavy lift AR processing (and battery, internet connection, GPS coordinates, etc) is handled in the iPhone in your pocket.
That’s be one hot tamale in your pocket!
 
Words of wisdom, my friend. We’d all do well to live by this.

And yes, I do indeed recall the times of dial up. And then DSL after that. Good times.

Best times were when someone would call and knock you off the internet after you had spent 20 literal minutes waiting for a video to buffer. Then you’d have to start all over again.
We added another landline for fax and dial-up.

But to be frank... if I could go back to when we first got our 14.4Kbps modem I'd have enforced a curfew onto myself my kid brother of no screens between 6pm-6am so we'd get at least 10hrs sleep in GS & HS.

Lack of sleep put a dent into our mental health & academic performance. All thanks to unlimited dial-up and copper.
 
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We added another landline for fax and dial-up.

But to be frank... if I could go back to when we first got our 14.4Kbps modem I'd have enforced a curfew onto myself my kid brother of no screens between 6pm-6am so we'd get at least 10hrs sleep in GS & HS.

Lack of sleep put a dent into our mental health & academic performance. All thanks to unlimited dial-up and copper.
Oh you guys had it good with two lines!

Ah, yes. I certainly didn’t get the sleep I needed back then either.

I can’t say the faster internet did me any favors because then that allowed me to play World of Warcraft. Talk about a time sink!
 
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Oh you guys had it good with two lines!

Ah, yes. I certainly didn’t get the sleep I needed back then either.

I can’t say the faster internet did me any favors because then that allowed me to play World of Warcraft. Talk about a time sink!
Actually 3 landlines then 4. 4th being unlimited National Direct Dial with that telco.

Now I was able to reduce it to 1. Just for fiber.

When we got our ADSL was when all those US shows and DVD rips became plentiful on p2p.

We had our cable TV subscription cut as all they show are reruns and new episodes that were aired nearly a year a go in the US that have an image quality equivalent to worn out VHS tapes.

Imagine year 2000 and you're able to get 16:9 480p shows within hours of US airdate by the next morning your time as it took 4-6 hours to download via 0.256Mbps ADSL connection. Ideally connected via Component video cable from your HTPC to your Progressive Scan 29" Sony WEGA CRT.

I'd have banned that out right for the very same reason of dial-up.
 
Actually 3 landlines then 4. 4th being unlimited National Direct Dial with that telco.

Now I was able to reduce it to 1. Just for fiber.

When we got our ADSL was when all those US shows and DVD rips became plentiful on p2p.

We had our cable TV subscription cut as all they show are reruns and new episodes that were aired nearly a year a go in the US that have an image quality equivalent to worn out VHS tapes.

Imagine year 2000 and you're able to get 16:9 480p shows within hours of US airdate by the next morning your time as it took 4-6 hours to download via 0.256Mbps ADSL connection. Ideally connected via Component video cable from your HTPC to your Progressive Scan 29" Sony WEGA CRT.

I'd have banned that out right for the very same reason of dial-up.
Haha! That’s a story right there. I don’t know what I would have done with all of that TV… I think at that point I was still recording my favorite movies on cable with the VCR. And it definitely wasn’t DVD quality.
 
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Just a pure, uninterrupted slab of aluMINium. Jony Ive vibe intensifies.
 
Tim Cook is behind the “Pro” and “Ultra” sceme. If Steve Jobs was alive, I don’t think he would have allowed that. It honestly starts to sound redundant now.
Yeah, but (not that I'm a TC fan) Steve gave the reigns to Tim Cook with specific instructions to not ask "what would Steve do?" when making decisions for Apple. The stockholders LOVE Tim Cook, and Apple is, for now, incredibly successful. For those of us (I am one) who boarded the Apple train when Steve was the conductor, it's been a long and grueling ride in the Tim Cook era. I worked for Apple in the Steve Jobs era, and continued for a few years after he died. The "Angela Ahrends" era is where Apple's magic left the building for me. So I left the building...
 
Yeah, but (not that I'm a TC fan) Steve gave the reigns to Tim Cook with specific instructions to not ask "what would Steve do?" when making decisions for Apple. The stockholders LOVE Tim Cook, and Apple is, for now, incredibly successful. For those of us (I am one) who boarded the Apple train when Steve was the conductor, it's been a long and grueling ride in the Tim Cook era. I worked for Apple in the Steve Jobs era, and continued for a few years after he died. The "Angela Ahrends" era is where Apple's magic left the building for me. So I left the building...
Worth noting too that Apple is the only one of the biggest tech companies not laying off lots of folks right now. Good for employees, customers, and shareholders alike to have that stability. That’s Cook’s work at the helm.
 
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