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Sorry YT, not paying for Premium no matter what you try. Expensive and honestly, I can live with the ads. Lower the prices or make a bundle with YTTV keeping the same price of the TV app.
 
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Fair enough. I started paying for Premium. Got fed up with the ads and I DO watch a lot of YouTube. Worth the price.

EDIT: I think YouTube removed this feature to get more people to sign up to Premium.
I’m waiting for 30 days before election. Then I’m going to sign up for premium until election.
 
Sorry YT, not paying for Premium no matter what you try. Expensive and honestly, I can live with the ads. Lower the prices or make a bundle with YTTV keeping the same price of the TV app.
Technically, it is bundled right now. You get free Youtube music with premium.
 
So people updated iOS and something in Safari doesn't work while browsing the YouTube site. I don't see the evidence that this problem was done by Google.
pip works if you have YT Premium subscription
It also works if you request desktop website
So basically Safari can do pip on YouTube, how could a safari bug only triggered on mobile website without premium subscription?
 
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Because YouTube is... pick your derogatory term.

Remember when they took away the ability to play audio of videos with the screen off?
Pepperidge Farm remembers 🐸

remember when there was a non-removable native YouTube App built into every iPhone?
 
So people updated iOS and something in Safari doesn't work while browsing the YouTube site. I don't see the evidence that this problem was done by Google.
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Much more solid evidence if this is what you are looking for.

They are not even hiding, just search pip in the JavaScript and this will pop up.
 
It’s not that it’s hard, it’s that they want you to pay for a premium membership, in which they’ll bundle expected features like PiP and audio playback while the screen is off.
But... PiP is a device feature and playing sound on the background is also a device feature, they block it and then they make you pay to unblock it? Isn’t that going too far? I get paying for no ads, free music and stuff INSIDE the app but affecting stuff outside the default builtin behavior they must have had to put some effort into NOT making it work, as in, man hours, dev time, etc to block it.
I’m trying to come with an analogy but everything sounds wrong, it’s like, typing on any text input field the OS shows the onscreen input keyboard by default... but then they block it quickly after it pops up and say that if you want to use your device’s builtin screen keyboard you have to pay. Not quite maybe but feels along those lines.
 
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I assume that it isn't about it being difficult, it's about ads. If you play a video in picture-in-picture on iOS, you can swipe the video away and listen to it. That kills ad viewability.
So does swiping my whole phone away on a table or pocketing it while walking.
Reminds me of a Black Mirror episode of the first season where people have to directly watch ads, direct eye contact, if they don’t the ad just pauses and displays a warning... it resumes when it’s looked at back again. Well, on our way to that maybe.
 
But... PiP is a device feature and playing sound on the background is also a device feature, they block it and then they make you pay to unblock it? Isn’t that going too far? I get paying for no ads, free music and stuff INSIDE the app but affecting stuff outside the default builtin behavior they must have had to put some effort into NOT making it work, as in, man hours, dev time, etc to block it.
I’m trying to come with an analogy but everything sounds wrong, it’s like, typing on any text input field the OS shows the onscreen input keyboard by default... but then they block it quickly after it pops up and say that if you want to use your device’s builtin screen keyboard you have to pay. Not quite maybe but feels along those lines.
I totally agree that OS features shouldn’t be put being a paywall by third-party developers. I’m guessing part of the rationale is that anyone could create a playlist with "videos" of songs and use that instead of paying for their music (even with PiP, you could swipe the video to the side and therefore avoid seeing the ads (you’d still hear them, but I guess an audio ad and a video ad doesn’t generate the same engagement, and advertisers on YouTube most likely pay for their stuff to hopefully be SEEN))

Regardless of all of that, instead of blocking an OS feature, they should find a way to make it work for their platform, I think.
 
Google is a terrible company! They want you to pay for an iOS feature and were too lazy to remove the functionality during the beta; only to remove after people enjoyed it. It’s clearly not playing in the background if it’s overlaying other content. Does google allow Pip on Android?
 
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So does swiping my whole phone away on a table or pocketing it while walking.
Reminds me of a Black Mirror episode of the first season where people have to directly watch ads, direct eye contact, if they don’t the ad just pauses and displays a warning... it resumes when it’s looked at back again. Well, on our way to that maybe.
Maybe you are getting it a bit wrong. Google is deliberately blocking native OS functionality that recently got introduced. It’s like if they made us pay to use the OS’s builtin onscreen keyboard to type on the search bar.
It’s ok though, I think in some years all this YouTube craze will slowly spread thinner giving room to better new streaming services with the advent of cheaper democratized storage, bandwidth, etc. Things like Locals, maybe a “patreon stream” and others to give company to Twitch and similars. So many video content now sometimes for free like Gumroad (I buy a lot of quality tutorials there now). Many business are now streaming services based.
Apples to oranges. Each website has the right to choose how to implement the native functionality of the device it’s being accessed from.

I get it that it’s your device, but at the end of the day, you are the one accessing their website.

Some forums, for example, restrict uploading media to paying members. Uploading files is also a native feature.

I mean I agree with most people here, I think blocking pip is annoying, but the web is free and google has the right to do it.
 
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Still works for me on my iPad Pro 2018 don’t see the point of it on iPhone and still use the app on that.
 
Those idiots should at least add native support in the app for premium subscribers. I am not paying 2,50€ for youtube premium in „Turkey“ for nothing!


The fact that YouTube Premium is $15.99 per month blows my mind. So expensive for so little. I have noticed they’ve been showing more ads, longer ads, and less skippable ads though, which is getting really old.

„Travel“ to Turkey or India (VPN) and it will show you the price in their currency, subscribe and then travel back. I only pay 2 EUR per month 😁
 
Ok, given the update to this story, can we finally as paid YouTube Premium members finally get proper PIP support from the app? I swear Google hates their customers for absolutely no reason. I get the PIP thing with ads being tiny or whatever but I pay to have no ads so this is BS. YouTube is my primary source of streaming entertainment. So many good creators on the platform putting out much higher quality content than the BS usually seen on TV. I cancelled my TV and several other streaming services after recently losing my job due to the pandemic before I will cancel my YouTube Premium, lol. Occasionally I will open a video in another browser when I was testing a website I was building and the number of ads was insane nowadays.
 
Fair enough. I started paying for Premium. Got fed up with the ads and I DO watch a lot of YouTube. Worth the price.

EDIT: I think YouTube removed this feature to get more people to sign up to Premium.

I dislike Youtube because they basically feast on other people’s work, that—more often than not—is "donated" unvoluntarily. Now they’re even charging real money, paying the content creators next to nothing, if any.
 
Those idiots should at least add native support in the app for premium subscribers. I am not paying 2,50€ for youtube premium in „Turkey“ for nothing!




„Travel“ to Turkey or India (VPN) and it will show you the price in their currency, subscribe and then travel back. I only pay 2 EUR per month 😁
I’m definitely not using the “world” wide web properly, I even forget that we are everywhere with it.
Does that work with everything? Netflix and many other besides media streaming services but also subscription based? Say, adobe.
 
YT better watch out—if it does this on Android (haven’t been on Android in a couple of years other than a Samsung tablet I don’t use frequently) but they block it on the iPhone that “M” word that’s been thrown at Apple at lot lately will probably be coming at them next.
 
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