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The remote in control center still takes you out of control center and slides in the remote. It was so much smoother when it would pop open the same way all the other CC things do (like home does). Even a long press takes you home and then slides the remote in. Might as well have kept the actual remote app at this point.
 
…… really stupid reply. It’s bothers people, no need to belittle or make it out to be stupid, just because you feel it is. It bothered people and people have a right to moan about it, if you don’t like that then go read some news articles on the war if that’s what’s important to you.
Do I have a right to moan about the moaners?
I like the outline because it‘s actually quite useful and absolutely unintrusive in my opinion.
 
The messages app keeps forgetting which message thread I was last in.

On leaving the app and using other apps for a while it happens. When I go back in to messages it just shows a list of all the message threads as if the app just forgot it’s previous state and reloaded fresh.

Anyone notice this? I had it in beta 4 too.
 
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The messages app keeps forgetting which message thread I was last in.

On leaving the app and using other apps for a while it happens. When I go back in to messages it just shows a list of all the message threads as if the app just forgot it’s previous state and reloaded fresh.

Anyone notice this? I had it in beta 4 too.
I don't have this on my 13. I just tested to be sure. I can leave a conversation thread open, swipe away the app, go to another app, come back to messages right to where I left off.
 
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@Iphonexs why did that make you angry?


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I honestly don't think this is a problem that will be solved with an update. It seems something specific to the accounts this is happening to, and must be solved by some other means (change password, logout everything, call Apple, or all of those).

Yeah I had this on for beta 1 and 2, it’s fixed now for me. Didn’t do anything to remedy ether.

You done a fresh IPSW instal?
 
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But what you’re missing is that it was so faint it was imperceptible most of the time, why do you think it got so much negative attention when beta 4 dropped last week? It was NOT like it is now where it’s this bright garish looking outline that’s there most of the time. And for some reason when you visit macrumors it goes away, maybe they did something to disable it since it’s so hideous? Try going to a site like 500px, and see how bad it is. It also changes color depending on what is using it so if the app icon is the same color as the area around the island you’re not going to notice it as much.

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If you like this site and is great for wallpapers for your phone after a little cropping, check out Unsplash. it’s free.
 
I like true colour, not true yellow tone 😆😂

A lot of people tend to be overexposed to poorly calibrated displays these days. I'm not claiming you are like this, but when I have friends and family over to watch movies on our ISF-calibrated LG OLED G1 TV a lot of the are commenting on why the colours are so warm and yellowish.

Thing is that most displays come with oversaturated colours out-of-the-box. It's easier to have a display stand out more in the store, and work in poor lighting conditions when overexposing colours and pushing brightness levels. But this is far from being "accurate".

As a result, most people are exposed to poorly calibrated screens most of the day walking around outside, in stores, shopping malls, on their monitor at work etc. This is what they get used to seeing. When getting exposed to a display accurate colour delta and white point, especially for SDR they will find it warm and yellowish when this is not really the case from a reference point of you. You are used overexposed to overly bright displays with cool colour temperatures that you will register a display with proper brightness levels and colour temperatures as being warm and yellow.

There is a reason that pretty much every professional colour calibration of most TVs is using one of the warmest presets as the baseline for calibration as they are almost always tracking way closer to a proper colour delta compared to normal presets. Take my LG OLED G1 for instance, no matter what source you use for a quick way to calibrate your display you'll see that rtings, hdtvtest etc. All of them recommend the use of warm50, the warmest you can put the monitor as that's the easiest way for most people that don't have equipment for colour calibration, and for people that won't pay the price for having a proper ISF calibration of their display to have the colour delta and white point tracking closer to the industry reference without going into more detailed calibration.

Most newer TVs come with "Filmmaker Mode" which, if you allow will enable itself when playing back modern content which contains filmmaker mode metadata to kick your TV into Filmmaker Mode automatically when playing back content containing this metadata. The reference for filmmaker mode is using some of the warmest presets of TVs of pretty much any TV expect Samsung TVs as Samsung is Samsung and decided to not follow the industry agreed-upon reference for Filmmaker Mode and instead made their own overly bright and exposed version of it. Filmmaker mode was an attempt for the industry to battle this default stance of overly bright default settings with overly cool colour temperatures allowing the TV to simply "fix itself" into a much more accurate colour mode when playing back content containing this metadata. Sadly the whole point of this goes down the drain when companies like Samsung decide to not follow what everyone agreed upon and start fiddling with making their filmmaker mode not follow the settings that was the whole point of the mode, to begin with.


Long story short. Most people will find display with proper calibration to be warm and yellowish. Especially when it comes to white text etc. This is not a result of the text itself actually being incorrect and not being "white", but people are getting used to overly exposed displays making their reference point to what white should really look like to be overly white and cold so when they see white on something that is close to perfectly calibrated they feel like it's a yellowish-white instead.

People should be allowed to run their displays however they feel like. I have friends who prefer overly exposed colours, motion smoothing and whatnot and there is nothing wrong with that. But it's interesting to see the physiological aspects behind all of this where most people would consider a properly calibrated display running 100 cd/m2 in a pitch-black room as both too warm, yellowish and too dim. Even though you from a reference standpoint when following the standard set by the industry for SDR content, this is would be as accurate as it gets.

I use Night Mode/Night Shift after 08:00 AM / 20:00 to improve my sleep quality, making all colour accuracy and white point accuracy go down the drain as I drastically reduce the blue light output. I do this even on my Apple TV so even though I'm striving for making my displays as colour accurate as possible I do sacrifice all accuracy for less blue light exposure every evening regardless.
 
I don't have this on my 13. I just tested to be sure. I can leave a conversation thread open, swipe away the app, go to another app, come back to messages right to where I left off.
Hmm 🤔 Yeah I thought it could just be a ‘me’ issue. I’ll try turning off cloud messages and see if it fixes it.
 
A lot of people tend to be overexposed to poorly calibrated displays these days. I'm not claiming you are like this, but when I have friends and family over to watch movies on our ISF-calibrated LG OLED G1 TV a lot of the are commenting on why the colours are so warm and yellowish.

Thing is that most displays come with oversaturated colours out-of-the-box. It's easier to have a display stand out more in the store, and work in poor lighting conditions when overexposing colours and pushing brightness levels. But this is far from being "accurate".

As a result, most people are exposed to poorly calibrated screens most of the day walking around outside, in stores, shopping malls, on their monitor at work etc. This is what they get used to seeing. When getting exposed to a display accurate colour delta and white point, especially for SDR they will find it warm and yellowish when this is not really the case from a reference point of you. You are used overexposed to overly bright displays with cool colour temperatures that you will register a display with proper brightness levels and colour temperatures as being warm and yellow.

There is a reason that pretty much every professional colour calibration of most TVs is using one of the warmest presets as the baseline for calibration as they are almost always tracking way closer to a proper colour delta compared to normal presets. Take my LG OLED G1 for instance, no matter what source you use for a quick way to calibrate your display you'll see that rtings, hdtvtest etc. All of them recommend the use of warm50, the warmest you can put the monitor as that's the easiest way for most people that don't have equipment for colour calibration, and for people that won't pay the price for having a proper ISF calibration of their display to have the colour delta and white point tracking closer to the industry reference without going into more detailed calibration.

Most newer TVs come with "Filmmaker Mode" which, if you allow will enable itself when playing back modern content which contains filmmaker mode metadata to kick your TV into Filmmaker Mode automatically when playing back content containing this metadata. The reference for filmmaker mode is using some of the warmest presets of TVs of pretty much any TV expect Samsung TVs as Samsung is Samsung and decided to not follow the industry agreed-upon reference for Filmmaker Mode and instead made their own overly bright and exposed version of it. Filmmaker mode was an attempt for the industry to battle this default stance of overly bright default settings with overly cool colour temperatures allowing the TV to simply "fix itself" into a much more accurate colour mode when playing back content containing this metadata. Sadly the whole point of this goes down the drain when companies like Samsung decide to not follow what everyone agreed upon and start fiddling with making their filmmaker mode not follow the settings that was the whole point of the mode, to begin with.


Long story short. Most people will find display with proper calibration to be warm and yellowish. Especially when it comes to white text etc. This is not a result of the text itself actually being incorrect and not being "white", but people are getting used to overly exposed displays making their reference point to what white should really look like to be overly white and cold so when they see white on something that is close to perfectly calibrated they feel like it's a yellowish-white instead.

People should be allowed to run their displays however they feel like. I have friends who prefer overly exposed colours, motion smoothing and whatnot and there is nothing wrong with that. But it's interesting to see the physiological aspects behind all of this where most people would consider a properly calibrated display running 100 cd/m2 in a pitch-black room as both too warm, yellowish and too dim. Even though you from a reference standpoint when following the standard set by the industry for SDR content, this is would be as accurate as it gets.

I use Night Mode/Night Shift after 08:00 AM / 20:00 to improve my sleep quality, making all colour accuracy and white point accuracy go down the drain as I drastically reduce the blue light output. I do this even on my Apple TV so even though I'm striving for making my displays as colour accurate as possible I do sacrifice all accuracy for less blue light exposure every evening regardless.

I get why it’s a function, I just don’t like my screen tarnished with a warmth or yellow tint, yellow whites to be more direct.

My iPhone screen is naturally slightly on the cooler side but still keeping the whites white, as even out the box the screen is warm - you can do this in accessibility under colour filters.
 
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A lot of people tend to be overexposed to poorly calibrated displays these days. I'm not claiming you are like this, but when I have friends and family over to watch movies on our ISF-calibrated LG OLED G1 TV a lot of the are commenting on why the colours are so warm and yellowish.

Thing is that most displays come with oversaturated colours out-of-the-box. It's easier to have a display stand out more in the store, and work in poor lighting conditions when overexposing colours and pushing brightness levels. But this is far from being "accurate".

As a result, most people are exposed to poorly calibrated screens most of the day walking around outside, in stores, shopping malls, on their monitor at work etc. This is what they get used to seeing. When getting exposed to a display accurate colour delta and white point, especially for SDR they will find it warm and yellowish when this is not really the case from a reference point of you. You are used overexposed to overly bright displays with cool colour temperatures that you will register a display with proper brightness levels and colour temperatures as being warm and yellow.

There is a reason that pretty much every professional colour calibration of most TVs is using one of the warmest presets as the baseline for calibration as they are almost always tracking way closer to a proper colour delta compared to normal presets. Take my LG OLED G1 for instance, no matter what source you use for a quick way to calibrate your display you'll see that rtings, hdtvtest etc. All of them recommend the use of warm50, the warmest you can put the monitor as that's the easiest way for most people that don't have equipment for colour calibration, and for people that won't pay the price for having a proper ISF calibration of their display to have the colour delta and white point tracking closer to the industry reference without going into more detailed calibration.

Most newer TVs come with "Filmmaker Mode" which, if you allow will enable itself when playing back modern content which contains filmmaker mode metadata to kick your TV into Filmmaker Mode automatically when playing back content containing this metadata. The reference for filmmaker mode is using some of the warmest presets of TVs of pretty much any TV expect Samsung TVs as Samsung is Samsung and decided to not follow the industry agreed-upon reference for Filmmaker Mode and instead made their own overly bright and exposed version of it. Filmmaker mode was an attempt for the industry to battle this default stance of overly bright default settings with overly cool colour temperatures allowing the TV to simply "fix itself" into a much more accurate colour mode when playing back content containing this metadata. Sadly the whole point of this goes down the drain when companies like Samsung decide to not follow what everyone agreed upon and start fiddling with making their filmmaker mode not follow the settings that was the whole point of the mode, to begin with.


Long story short. Most people will find display with proper calibration to be warm and yellowish. Especially when it comes to white text etc. This is not a result of the text itself actually being incorrect and not being "white", but people are getting used to overly exposed displays making their reference point to what white should really look like to be overly white and cold so when they see white on something that is close to perfectly calibrated they feel like it's a yellowish-white instead.

People should be allowed to run their displays however they feel like. I have friends who prefer overly exposed colours, motion smoothing and whatnot and there is nothing wrong with that. But it's interesting to see the physiological aspects behind all of this where most people would consider a properly calibrated display running 100 cd/m2 in a pitch-black room as both too warm, yellowish and too dim. Even though you from a reference standpoint when following the standard set by the industry for SDR content, this is would be as accurate as it gets.

I use Night Mode/Night Shift after 08:00 AM / 20:00 to improve my sleep quality, making all colour accuracy and white point accuracy go down the drain as I drastically reduce the blue light output. I do this even on my Apple TV so even though I'm striving for making my displays as colour accurate as possible I do sacrifice all accuracy for less blue light exposure every evening regardless.

Whoa…

Definitely thorough!
 
Personally, I think Federico and Steve Troughton-Smith are both being drama queens about this feature. Does it work perfectly for me on my 2018 IPP or my 2020 M1 Mac? No. Does it work well enough? Yes.
It is good to know that two HIGHLY knowledgeable people are able to help Apple fix their bugs, though. I honestly don’t think it would “work well enough” for you if they hadn’t been doing what they do…
 
It is good to know that two HIGHLY knowledgeable people are able to help Apple fix their bugs, though. I honestly don’t think it would “work well enough” for you if they hadn’t been doing what they do…
I've had it on my Mac since day 1. Its worked fine there. And there's being helpful and then there's being a drama queen. They both have channels into Apple senior leadership and could make their issues known that way. I'm not saying they shouldn't highlight legitimate issues. But as pointed out above, many of their issues relate to obscure keyboard shortcuts and gestures. And then there are tweets like these below that illustrate that he is doing this for clicks mainly:


 
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I've had it on my Mac since day 1. Its worked fine there. And there's being helpful and then there's being a drama queen. They both have channels into Apple senior leadership and could make their issues known that way. I'm not saying they shouldn't highlight legitimate issues. But as pointed out above, many of their issues relate to obscure keyboard shortcuts and gestures. And then there are tweets like these below that illustrate that he is doing this for clicks mainly:


All things considered, Federico is allowed to complain about Apple's software just as much as anyone else complains here in these forums (*cough cough* Dynamic Island Outline what now??*), if not more. Apple's getting a lot of really good free advice between those two. I use a lot of the Keyboard shortcuts he's referring to in his Twitter Posts, just like a lot of people that also have Apple's Magic Keyboard w/ Trackpad, and it's not hard to still crash Springboard in Stage Manager. And that's been tested on how many iPad betas now? Twelve? Same issues remain. And I say Issues, not aesthetic things.
 
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Were we always able to change the order of your Apple Pay cards in wallet or is this new to 16.1? Before you could only choose a default card which would move to the front, but you weren’t able to edit the other cards order if I remember correctly.
 
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