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The oversimplification that has been done with the icons was ridiculous. I find myself spending more time reading the text than choosing the icon.

Finally, DO NOT punish your users by removing things that have become natural to them. Going left on the home screen MUST, send you to "spotlight"/search iPhone. Why make everyone angry about something that is useful and everyone is used to?
There is no inovation in sliding from the top, it is just someone's fit out of lack of innovation. Wake up!

I couldn't agree with you LESS. I dunno how many times I accidentally ended up on the spotlight screen - rarely used, and in a much better location now.

Stop acting like you speak for everyone.
 
It looks like the Reminders and the Notes apps now have a slightly textured background rather than flat white. Am I seeing things or can someone else confirm this? I don't recall it looking like this in previous betas.

Cant have my phone at work, otherwise I'd post a screenshot. :(
 
But a lot of things could be added to the settings menu to create options that would satisfy all users.

This is one thing that, despite being a huge fan of all things Apple, I've always disliked about them. Where is the customizability?

Why can't I choose in the settings menu whether or not a sound is made when you swipe to unlock? Why can't I pick the number of app icons on my screen, and shrink them down to fit more per page?

I totally understand uniformity and its benefits for a company. But I feel as though Apple could allow their users a little bit more flexibility to be able to make their UIs look them way we want them to look.

One thing springs to mind when I hear this argument: the ability to move and/or hide the Windows taskbar. It's a bit of customization that's used by relatively few users but falls into the same category of 'harmless' tweaks to the UI as the examples above. Yet that one bit of functionality has been responsible for at least a quarter of my family tech support over the last decade. The number of times I've had frantic phone calls going 'the taskbar has vanished!' or 'it's at the top, it's at the TOP!'... doesn't bear thinking about.

Thing is I have some sympathy here, I can see how it's frustrating for some people not to have these options. But looking at the market that Apple addresses I believe it's absolutely the right choice to limit this sort of fluff. As with everything else it's a compromise you have to take into account when buying your device and decide whether it's a compromise worth making.
 
So... is it possible there will be black and white version of iOS 7 (depending on the color of your device)? It has begun with the boot screen, some guy had a black keyboard on his black iPad Mini. The black version could look similar to this:
flat-messages-ios7.jpg

yes please
 
It looks like the Reminders and the Notes apps now have a slightly textured background rather than flat white. Am I seeing things or can someone else confirm this? I don't recall it looking like this in previous betas.

Cant have my phone at work, otherwise I'd post a screenshot. :(

It was like that in previous betas. For me the Reminders and Notes apps look the least finished and polished, and had hoped they might have improved a bit by now. For example - look at the Mail app and how it lists emails, compared to how a list of Notes looks. Night and day. I don't know why they can't add a bit of basic functionality into Notes, for example hold and drag to re-order, or organise into folders.

With the settings icons, I probably preferred how they were, but the new ones aren't too bad. Its not as though people spend much time in there anyone. One thing that I don't think has been mentioned though is this - if the idea is that there is some sort of grouping by colour, why is this grouping inconsistent with the physical groupings? For example - second group down consists of Notification Center, Control Center and Do Not Disturb. The first two are grey icons, as are General and Privacy in the next group. Surely here it would make more sense to group the grey icons together physically, and in this order: General, Notification Center, Control Center, Privacy.

The other thing I noticed is the addition of a pale red rectangle round the Repeat and Shuffle text when either is turned on. Previously the text just changed to bold text. Makes it slightly more like a button, but think the least hey could do is add a single pixel border around that shape with a white fill when they are off. And I still don't know why they couldn't just stick with the familiar icons.
 
Just to add to this - who knew they needed an iPad before the iPad came along?

If you want to know why Apple doesn't listen to people's opinions on design - it's because people will always be fixated on what we have now. We don't like change. Here's a good example - if Apple had asked for people's opinions on how to design the iPad before they released it, this story would be very different: http://gizmodo.com/5832749/what-tablets-looked-like-before-the-ipad-and-what-they-look-like-now (and they did that without any outside help).

I'd like to know how many people bitching in here are actually developers who are legitimately using the beta for testing their own apps. 0.1% maybe?

Gotta love the comments on that site...
 
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Finally, DO NOT punish your users by removing things that have become natural to them. Going left on the home screen MUST, send you to "spotlight"/search iPhone. Why make everyone angry about something that is useful and everyone is used to?
There is no inovation in sliding from the top, it is just someone's fit out of lack of innovation. Wake up!

I understand your point, but I'd like to suggest that sliding down to search is faster when you are not in the left-most home screen, which used to require at least one additional step (click the home button again or swipe right enough times) before you can get to search.
 
OK, agreed. But I, and would assume, most people, tend to have the most used apps on the 1st screen. That's where we spend most of the time. On top of that you can push the home button to go to the 1st page...

Pull down from the top is universal no need to hit the home button to then slide left to search. Much better.
 
There has to be a middle ground. I disliked the skeoumorphic design(s), but too simple is overkill. Why not port OS X elements into iOS? Screen real estate may limit some aspects, but try shading, altering transparency in apps/settings/notification center/control center/etc. Detail doesn't need to be skeoumorphic, it simply needs crisper and cleaner UI elements.

I say how about port the color icons BACK to OSX instead of the grey wasteland the finder has become.
 
iOS Metro Edition

The day Apple takes design cues from Microsoft is the day I become an Android user, and that day is here my friends.

The Circle Icon motif is a Metro theme that is prevalent throughout Windows Phone and Windows 8 OS'es. Why Apple would choose to blatantly rip off that design motif is beyond me considering how litigious Apple was about rounded corner rectangle icons in the past. I mean the updated phone dialer app could be mistaken for a Windows Phone app any day by any customer just from its clipped screenshot.

I think Apple is treading on very thin ice here as they move towards modernizing iOS but then taking A LOT of design cues from both Microsoft and Google.

Its great Apple recognizes that that iOS needs a UI revamp, and aside from the multi-layer transitions on iPhone, most of the other design changes are unoriginal and more then a bit plagiarized.

I know all you Apple fanboys will decry this, but I think Apple is taking a few pages out of Microsoft's UI design handbook on this one.
 
The day Apple takes design cues from Microsoft is the day I become an Android user, and that day is here my friends.

The Circle Icon motif is a Metro theme that is prevalent throughout Windows Phone and Windows 8 OS'es. Why Apple would choose to blatantly rip off that design motif is beyond me considering how litigious Apple was about rounded corner rectangle icons in the past. I mean the updated phone dialer app could be mistaken for a Windows Phone app any day by any customer just from its clipped screenshot.

I think Apple is treading on very thin ice here as they move towards modernizing iOS but then taking A LOT of design cues from both Microsoft and Google.

Its great Apple recognizes that that iOS needs a UI revamp, and aside from the multi-layer transitions on iPhone, most of the other design changes are unoriginal and more then a bit plagiarized.

I know all you Apple fanboys will decry this, but I think Apple is taking a few pages out of Microsoft's UI design handbook on this one.

Even IF That would be correct (and it isn't correct, please read the design handbooks before posting wrong facts), it would be good.

Because ... IF something is good, why should you do it different but worse if you can be inspired ?
(I say inspired, NOT copying 1:1) Its like ministry of silly walk. Just have a silly walk to be unique ?

Thats just stupid and apple isn't stupid (even if many think they are much more intelligent than the apple engineers ... haha if that would be the truth you should be billionaires)
 
The photos icon is the lamest most unrelated bs icon they could ever come up with for a photo app. I mean what the hell is it? A psycadelic sunflower? Color wheel? No one that I've talked to likes it at all.
I love it. Its a color wheel in the shape of a flower. And its the one single icon that has improved over iOS6, because the clean transparent look of iOS7 fits perfectly with the concept of a color wheel.

If you want to see an ugly icon, look at the camera app. In iOS6 the lens icon was simple and beautiful. But you cannot paint a recognizable lens without being at least a little bit realistic, because the shape of it is just a circle. But if you force yourself to use a flat look, you have to tell the whole story mostly by shape and objects that are just squares and circles become unrecognizable.

So the solution was to add the housing of a very old camera no one uses anymore. This is added skeuomorphism to overcome the problems of iOS7 new look. We now have high-resolution screens with millions of very accurate colors and Apple refuses to use them anymore. Imagine the ceiling of the dome of Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome painted with only a handful of different colors to give it a cleaner look.

floppy-2.ico

Icon design has always been a strength of Apple and is now a deficiency.
 
- No sound when you unlock your phone.
- Still cannot scale picture.

Sure Apple aren't fixing important bugs! Just want to throw out pointless changes. Setting icons didnt need to be redesigned they were fine as it is.

Really wish they focus on providing us a better operating system... its still far behind the rest of the devices out there on the market.

Scaling a picture bug is bloody annoying.
 
Not sure I like the coloured settings icons as much; personally I subscribe to the idea that an OS should be more monochrome. I'm still hoping Apple might go in this direction, while using a frosted glass of a user's background through apps to keep things interesting, but with a focus on icons being iconic and easily identifiable, rather than using colour.

I dunno, I just find that lots of multi-coloured icons can look very chaotic, especially on a settings screen. At least with apps the icons are supposed to be vying for your attention rather than simply being identifiable, but elsewhere I don't think that that's a good thing.

The other visual changes look good though.
 
The photos icon is the lamest most unrelated bs icon they could ever come up with for a photo app. I mean what the hell is it? A psycadelic sunflower? Color wheel? No one that I've talked to likes it at all.

I'm guessing it's some kind of take on RGB or the refraction of light into its component parts. Personally, I love it, so there's someone you've talked to you likes it.
 
The day Apple takes design cues from Microsoft is the day I become an Android user, and that day is here my friends.

The Circle Icon motif is a Metro theme that is prevalent throughout Windows Phone and Windows 8 OS'es. Why Apple would choose to blatantly rip off that design motif is beyond me considering how litigious Apple was about rounded corner rectangle icons in the past. I mean the updated phone dialer app could be mistaken for a Windows Phone app any day by any customer just from its clipped screenshot.

I think Apple is treading on very thin ice here as they move towards modernizing iOS but then taking A LOT of design cues from both Microsoft and Google.

Its great Apple recognizes that that iOS needs a UI revamp, and aside from the multi-layer transitions on iPhone, most of the other design changes are unoriginal and more then a bit plagiarized.

I know all you Apple fanboys will decry this, but I think Apple is taking a few pages out of Microsoft's UI design handbook on this one.


If you had said that Apple stole Microsoft's design for "colorful and flat" I would have been in agreement. However, Microsoft's OS for Phone and Win8 is not circles... it's mainly squares and rectangles. Sure, there are circles here and there, but it is far less prominent. If anything, the circles, especially when it comes to iMessage reminds me of Facebook Home/Chat.

I'm not a huge fan of the new iOS UI, especially the icons (like most everyone else), however it is growing on me.
 
Sure Apple aren't fixing important bugs! Just want to throw out pointless changes. Setting icons didnt need to be redesigned they were fine as it is.

Really wish they focus on providing us a better operating system... its still far behind the rest of the devices out there on the market.

Scaling a picture bug is bloody annoying.

I can feel your pain bro.
 
So this is what Apple has come to: form over function.

Tinkering with presentation and icons. No significant functional improvement.
 
So this is what Apple has come to: form over function.

Tinkering with presentation and icons. No significant functional improvement.

It is an OS
-> it should start applications
-> it should allow managing these applications (and it does much better than android regarding mt mechanisms)
-> it should define ui rules
-> it should use as less resources as possible
-> it should provide apis for the developer

ios7 does all that better than any other mobile os. so what please do you want more from the os besides stuff like "I WANZ TO CHANZE EVERYTHING"
 
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