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iOS 7 Beta 5 Tidbits: Icon Settings Redesign, New Control Center Options
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For someone that clearly worships Jony Ive, it's hilarious that you have no clue what you're talking about. We know that picture is the real deal because Jony Ive himself commented on it. You could of just saved yourself the embarrassment and did 2 minutes of research on the origin of the picture instead of going on a rant.
Also, here is a section with quotes from Ive about the design of the original iphone from Jobs' official biography:
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why are you using iOS again? I truly like both OSes and find it interesting that since you found an OS that satisfies your needs, that you would still rant that iOS does not meet them? Ultimately users will use what makes the most sense to their expected usage.
If you find that many users prefer using an iPhone, it doesn't really mean that iOS is better than Android, or vice versa. It simply means that people's needs are being met by such a device. iPhones are not cheap, even when you stop to think about the subsided pricing (users who have ever lost a phone before their 2yr contract is up, know just how expensive the $0 down iPhone 4 really costs)., and yet they are willing to put down their vote towards that platform.
what will be interesting to find out this year will be what in hardware will Apple put forward. I am interested as I have always loved their designs.
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I also agree the calendar app isn't quite as useful as it should be.
It looks super pretty, but not much practical.
Only being able to see dots in the month view really bother's me. I constantly have to go in and out to see what's coming up. Plus, even if you tap on a date with a dot indicating an existing event, if the event is pass 4pm, you still have to scroll down to the appropriate time to see actual event. The same goes for the calendar day view in the notification center. Why can't Apple just truncate empty space that has no events?
There's just too many steps to get to information that should be readily visible.
And the list of events being under the search isn't really user friendly. It took me a while to realize apple hasn't removed that view option. Again, the list may look pretty but I just don't think it clearly conveys the events and its corresponding date and time in a visually effective manner.
Geez. A couple of things buddy.
1) buy an android. Why are you sticking with ios if you hate it so much? Apple loves customers like you too, you know.
2) every company tells you what you can and can't do, don't kid yourself.
3) you're wasting your time here, because apple is not going to open up their os so you can change themes. If you don't like it, and it seems you don't, buy android.
This is the detail that many forget. Great to have an opinion and to speak it. But presuming that your opinion is universal or the most important and things should be done to make you happy just isn't going to happy. Companies can either make the hard choice and be the best they can be within that choice or make everyone happy and likely screw it all up. Look at even the core premise of say the iPad and the Surface. Apple choose to focus on the iPad as a limited use computing device. Those that need a full computer can get a full computer. Microsoft tried to make a tablet for both groups. And a quick google shows which one is selling and getting big contracts left and right and which one just filed a huge loss due to lack of sales.
Talk 'what I would like to see' all you want. But don't confuse that with 'what must be done or everyone will think it is a dog turd and it will fail'
No when you're under "Artist" tab, to find an album all the way at the bottom of the list, you have to scroll through every album and every track. Hide the tracks until you click the album and add the scroll bar back on the right. ios6 was fantastic. this is unusable for large libraries (i use iTunes match why wouldn't they want to get more people to subscribe to that?!?) and I've searched for other player apps.
The green makes sense to me given that the phone and messages apps are also green. Cell phone related stuff all the same.
The rest I'm still trying to sort out a logic. I had thought perhaps blue to try into how email and safari are also blue? Maybe dark purple because they felt black was too stark.
Anyone give up their jailbreak for this beta version? If so, is it worth it, or do you regret it? I cant decide what to do! only reason I still have JB is b/c of bitesms
Stop spitting this bolshevism crap. Majorities do not matter. Only the truth, right and wrong.
Good design and bad design. Im talking about user interface usability science.
Truth is singular. Its versions are mistruths.
Why should I ever care about what a majority of people thinks about anything?
I've always only been interested in undeniable facts of life, not stupid democracy.
Science changes. All the time. Sometimes because someone questions current science, saying things like 'no the sun is in the middle not the Earth' and then sets out to prove it. Just like perhaps how your 'user interface usability science' could get smashed apart by Apple ignoring it and trying a different way that could end up as the better choice for the majority of folks (usability is not 100% equal for all users no matter how much you try to say otherwise so already it's not a hard science like 2 hydrogen plus 1 oxygen always makes water)
Wel then, good-bye, enjoy your open operating system. Rest of us want to live in this paradise.
these poor designers...
This poor marketing team.
I'm sure that this is a great opportunity for them to grow as artists, but I all the criticism from these professional ranters must be tiresome.
My favorite comments on this thread are the ones where people try to say what would look better. As if they have a degree is graphic design (like myself) or know a thing about the concepts and rules of design or the current trend in iconography.
This poor marketing team.
I'm sure that this is a great opportunity for them to grow as artists, but I all the criticism from these professional ranters must be tiresome.
My favorite comments on this thread are the ones where people try to say what would look better. As if they have a degree is graphic design (like myself) or know a thing about the concepts and rules of design or the current trend in iconography.
Th issue might be a case of over think maybe the colors don't have some secret message to them. Perhaps the change was simply that they felt that it was to stark and color and wanted to out a little fun back in things to help those non geeks (ya know the 99.9% of users who also don't hang out on sites like this) feel less of a sense that EVERYTHING has changed. Same reason perhaps that delete buttons are still red and not black or whatever now.
Anyone else's battery life getting absolutely slaughtered running beta 5?
I noticed an uptick in polish and stability in betas 4 and 5 but a huge hit to battery life. My phone was fully charged at 3AM. Upon waking at 9AM I had 55% charge remaining. Bummer.
I noticed an uptick in polish and stability in betas 4 and 5 but a huge hit to battery life. My phone was fully charged at 3AM. Upon waking at 9AM I had 55% charge remaining. Bummer.
I can only talk about the betas because that's all they've released so far. The betas, to date have flip-flopped in terms of the UI design.
Nice quote about the future and the past but the point I am making is that it's probably not a good thing. IMO it's better to be able to see what you want and where you are going.
In so far as your last point... Yes, they have the most profitable handset in the world. I'm not denying any of that. I've been a mac user for a long long time and an iPhone user since day one. I'm simply making a point about what appears to be a lack if direction in the UI department.
Nope. on ipad mini, iphone4, 5, ipad3 battery life is better than beta4 for me
Well, thinking about it, not every VCR/CD/Tape deck relied on the color of the symbol, I think mainly red circle for record, and certainly not the color of the buttons, but there is heavy reliance on the symbol/shapes of play, stop, pause, record, eject as a "universal" identifier.
I'm still using iOS6. When I open Settings, I see no identifying order to the settings symbols; some look like settings symbols, such as Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Personal Hotspot, some have color, like Airplane Mode, and some look like app logos, like Brightness & Wallpaper or Do Not Disturb.
My observation was that the emphasis simply on the icon, and the fact that the icon was able to fill the entire allowed height vs. fitting inside the encapsulating colored square, made short work for my mind to understand the entire row.
There isn't too much of a legacy connection to the past color of the settings and the new colored settings, i.e. Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Personal Hotspot are grey in iOS6. In the beta we're discussing, Personal Hotspot isn't the same color as Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and none of them are grey (now, Notification Center and Control Center are grey).
I don't possess record setting comprehension. So, my observation was that the previous layout occurred to me as an example of design effectively aiding my ability to quickly comprehend, which, as a user who spends a lot of time on my iPhone, I appreciated.
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On my iPhone 4s, I had a full charge @ 5:30a...as of 11:00a I am only down to 77%...make sure you have the reduce motion featured turned off (I also turned off Background App Refresh). Those two items might take a toll on battery life.
YES they have to FlipFlop. Try what works better in reality.
See usage statistics, if users are finding their settings easier with multicolored icons than with the standard icons.
You see sometimes you have to TEST stuff.
Thats why it is beta.
And if you have an ios beta, it measures stuff like
-> how long is someone in settings. how long does he need to come to a specific submenu
Then they change parameters like colors, icons, positions, fontsizes and look how the data looks then.
And after that they decide
-> Hey we want this look, but we see in data users can use the phone better with this look. What do we want todo ? Do we change the design or is the difference so small that the design is more important.
Thats how beta software works. Thats why beta software is for DEVELOPERS because they KNOW how it should work. And thats why beta software is NOT for standard users, because they complain and complain and complain and have no idea of whats going on.
I agree that Calendar isn't as good as it could be. I like the endless scrolling, but would prefer the list view under the month to still be visible. It could have worked well with the deference thing, pushing the month up out of the way if needed.
That the list view is still there but for all events is good, although its not exactly obvious where to go to see it.
With the scrolling to see the event thing though - that works quite well. If you go to different days by default it goes to the same time as the current time. But if there is an event scheduled later that day, it automatically scrolls down to it.
Love it
So I paid the $99 bucks to become a developer and try out IOS 7 - and it love it! I owned a Palm Pre and like the ability to swipe close programs - very nice and much easier to close apps. Overall, much cleaner look than IOS 6 and I am a big fan. Still having some problems getting my Fitbit Flex to connect with IOS 7, but I don't have problems connecting to either of my iPads - probably need a patch from Fitbit down the road.
I was late the Apple party and a naysayer until I spent most of a Sunday two years ago trying to get my Galaxy Tab to work with my work e-mail. Beautiful device, but after spending hours with both my work and Samsung helpdesks, a guy at my work help desk asked me, "Have you ever thought about getting an iPad? I returned the Galaxy Tab, picked up an iPad and was in business in about 10 minutes. I have never looked back and don't miss my old HTC Hero either - great display, expandable memory and replaceable battery, but very unstable. Had to reboot it every day.
So, I have drunk the koolaide and never looked back.
So I paid the $99 bucks to become a developer and try out IOS 7 - and it love it! I owned a Palm Pre and like the ability to swipe close programs - very nice and much easier to close apps. Overall, much cleaner look than IOS 6 and I am a big fan. Still having some problems getting my Fitbit Flex to connect with IOS 7, but I don't have problems connecting to either of my iPads - probably need a patch from Fitbit down the road.
I was late the Apple party and a naysayer until I spent most of a Sunday two years ago trying to get my Galaxy Tab to work with my work e-mail. Beautiful device, but after spending hours with both my work and Samsung helpdesks, a guy at my work help desk asked me, "Have you ever thought about getting an iPad? I returned the Galaxy Tab, picked up an iPad and was in business in about 10 minutes. I have never looked back and don't miss my old HTC Hero either - great display, expandable memory and replaceable battery, but very unstable. Had to reboot it every day.
So, I have drunk the koolaide and never looked back.