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iOS 7 Running Behind, Rumored to Have Significant Visual Makeover

Dont know why people think that Apple is in fact a three floors building with few people who make the products and have to pull designers from one team to another just to finish ot time. There are hundreds of people working on coding and designing in both iOS and OS X teams and there are proper system for internal testing and evaluating the software before make it public. And now you will say, "Yeah, but Maps app was crap" and you will be right. The problem is that they had to leave Apple campus to test it and thats not the case wit the notes app, calendar, calculator, etc. Apple had 5 years to think how it can improve iOS dramaticly, im sure they came with good ideas from the app developers. Dont forget thet the actual itunes app design was taken from App Store app, so I think they dedicated a good time to look at all those apps and chose the best ones,improve it, contract the developer and make it iOS integrated.

Im sure iOS7 will be great and will be a big motive to upgarde your ios device.
That, plus multicolor iPhone and biometric home button will make the iPhone 5s the best selling iPhone ever, just wait and see.

What I thing is BSs rummors: cheap iPhone and bigger screen iPhone. Actualy I cam spend the day giving you motives why those things dosent make any sense. samsung is looking only to capture market. Apple dosent want market, they just want to have the best smartphone you can buy with your money, and if they can make it more affordable, why not, but not at all cost.
 
MacRumors said:
Finally, Siegler says he's heard "a whisper" that Apple's Passbook team is due for a shakeup and is in "shambles," though Ritchie points out that Forstall's departure could be the reason for the Passbook team's troubles.
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Hardly surprising. It was part of Apples general and unfortunatly frequent 'release and leave' program. They release something with all the fanfare, and then expect they can leave it to do its thing for 3 years, before doing another update.

Examples of this in recent times:

- Mac Pro
- Mac Mini (although thankfully no longer a problem)
- Maps
- Siri
- Passbook
- iCloud
- iTunes Remote App
- Most Apple iOS apps

There is potential for so much more with all of these, yet Apple seem happy to do the bear minimum to them, just to provide them as 'fillers' to their existing product line. Maybe with the recent shakeups we'll see some more regular updates for these sorts of things.
 
Takeo said:
Doesn't always help. Nine women can't make a baby in one month.
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So let me finish your thought here: iOS 7 is running late. So what do they do (instead of hiring new people - which they probably should have done MONTHS ago, but anyway...)? They are PULLING people from another project and ADDING them - yes, "ADD" as in "MORE people" - to the iOS project!

So: MORE people on iOS, but LESS people (= even more delay, less features, less quality, or all of the mentioned) on our beloved OS X project!

INSTEAD of hiring - yes - MORE people.

So yes, you're right: Nine women can't make a baby in one month. But they can make NINE babies in NINE months! ;)

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wilhoitm said:
More people isn't always better!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month
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IF - and only IF - we are talking about ONE project! But we are talking TWO DIFFERENT projects here: iOS and OS X (with some common libs in between, yes, agreed).

See the difference?
 
dazed said:
The iPhone 5 is boring, nothing could have saved it, no matter when they showed off the software.
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The iPhone 5 may be boring... but people sure bought it.

Out of the 47 million iPhones sold last quarter (Apple's highest iPhone quarter ever... btw...) it's estimated that the iPhone 5 represented 27 million of them.

That means the iPhone 5 sold 300,000 every day.

Not bad for a "boring" phone ;)

Can you imagine how many Apple will sell when they finally release an "exciting" iPhone?
 
I like skeuomorphism when it is done for aesthetics. I don't like it when it's done for lack of any vision.

Steampunk star wars with hot-air death star, bi-wing x-wing, and locomotive AT-AT walker: cool.
Tiny light switches located behind the lamp shade, at odd angles, and one inch from a burning hot bulb: bad.

Leather stitching in the whatever app: good.
Shoe laces:bad. (power laces by 2015, right?)

Airplane take off sound when e-mail is successfully sent: cool
Junk mail through the USPS: bad.

Inexpensive leather-textured vinyl car interiors: good.
Stone-patterned concrete forms: tacky.
 
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iOS getting major GUI overhaul is long overdue. However, I truly hope it's nothing short over staggering change compared what we used to have and not just visual overhaul which in the end of the day isn't going to modernize the user experience.

Anyway, if iP5S is released towards end of the year it better be much more then speed bump with some gimmicky feature that has very little real world use. Seriously, one single phone from Apple doesn't cut it anymore. Releasing some cheap low end version doesn't cut it either. There needs to be varying screen sizes to compete with Galaxy, Note and Lumia etc. phones.
 
MacRumors said:
… saying that he's heard that Ive's work with iOS 7 is "making many people really happy, but will also apparently make rich-texture-loving designers sad."
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I'm really curious now! I do love the current iOS design, it's simple yet modern with lots of non-distracting detail (the switches, light shadows and shines, animations, etc…) I imagine that they're indeed going towards a flatter feel, which probably means less gloss and embossed buttons, like Windows 8. However, I absolutely loathe Windows 8's design.

At work, they updated our server's system to Windows 8 without telling us, and when I first saw it I said "wow I didn't know this was still running Windows 98!" (honestly) and then I realized it's Windows 8. The scroll bars are just rectangles, the buttons are squares, the text is just text. It looks like DOS, with colors. I mean minimalism doesn't mean ugly: I love minimalism, but it has to be stylish to work, and style often requires more than just a single-color rectangle with text in it.

That being said, I'm sure Apple isn't going to do what Microsoft did, and they'll do something simpler yet still stylish. I really hope. Ive designs Apple products, and they definitely look amazing to me. There's no reason the UI should be anything less amazing…
 
Here's a really pessimistic outcome: Ive succeeds in overhauling the interface of iOS and it is an astonishing success with all the tech journos and bloggers putting the iPhone back on top - we start to hear what we used to hear from them "it's not all about hardware. It's the whole things and the iPhone 5s and iOS 7 together leave the completion lacking".

We all hail the only real genius left at apple (not to knock the brilliance if the others).

However as the Apple wave starts to build again and all the world hails the success of Ive (including investors), Ive himself starts to miss the intimacy of being an actual designer and not just a reviewer and approver of ideas. He leaves to focus on other areas of his design ambition. And then we all lose hope for the future permanently.

Or that last para doesn't happen and Ive stays until retirement and we have 15+ years of brilliance to look forward to.
 
This is getting really exciting now! I'll definitely wait for the 5S! Please give us an announcement in the next few weeks! Even if it doesn't include iOS 7.
 
I cant wait! This sounds really good!!!! :) Bring on the 5S or the 6 with a bigger screen (please?????)
 
insider-man said:
I call BS - the developers for IOS and OSX are two totally separate teams and operate totally autonomously of each other - they don't just 'get pulled across'.

There is so many specialisation to each OS they can't just move people around, the amount of internal financial issues this would cause would be unreal!
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That is such nonsense. 85% of the iOS code also runs on MacOS X. Unchanged. And the tendency is growing. Any knowledge of Cocoa programming is carried over immediately to the iPhone. GCD, ARC, user interface elements, it all carries over.
 
Tim Cook's apparent inability to manage Apple's product roadmap worries me. It seems every new product or update is dogged with delays for whatever reason. He needs to forget the stock market and focus on a more achievable product cycle.

Having worked for UK, US and Japanese IT firms over the years I think this is a particularly US centric problem. When I worked for the Japanese IT firm I was asked to provide products plans over 3, 5 and 10 years because they valued long term development. When I worked for the US IT firms I was rarely if ever asked to look past the next quarter or at most the next 12-18 months because their entire focus was on quarterly earnings. Nothing else mattered.

I see the same apparent issues in Apple today. Forget about the share price. Solve the production problems before you release the next iMac, etc.
 
iOS 7

All I want from iOS 7 is a new, more flexible home screen and lock screen. And the earlier it's released, the more bugs it MAY have.
 
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Shaun said:
Tim Cook's apparent inability to manage Apple's product roadmap worries me. It seems every new product or update is dogged with delays for whatever reason. He needs to forget the stock market and focus on a more achievable product cycle.

Having worked for UK, US and Japanese IT firms over the years I think this is a particularly US centric problem. When I worked for the Japanese IT firm I was asked to provide products plans over 3, 5 and 10 years because they valued long term development. When I worked for the US IT firms I was rarely if ever asked to look past the next quarter or at most the next 12-18 months because their entire focus was on quarterly earnings. Nothing else mattered.

I see the same apparent issues in Apple today. Forget about the share price. Solve the production problems before you release the next iMac, etc.
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All signs point to Steve Jobs having left Apple with a long-term product roadmap and that we won't see post-Jobs products this year.
 
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