Pretty sure Karma repaying the person would more likely be a good raise, promotion, job offer, etc. that the OP could use the extra money from to BUY a second iPad.
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iPad iPad Air package lost in delivery, got a refund, then the package showed up.
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Pretty sure Karma repaying the person would more likely be a good raise, promotion, job offer, etc. that the OP could use the extra money from to BUY a second iPad.
I'll assume all of you have home owners or renters insurance. With that being said, what are your addresses and what times are you guys usually not home? My wife is pregnant with our first child and I'd like for us to have one hell of a good Christmas! Everyone gets paid and we all win. There is no downside!
They are also forgetting that the more claims like this are made, the more they have to increase everyone's rates to pay for them.
Wrong! What you are advocating is called Insurance Fraud.
The original claim was legitimate (not fraud). But as soon as the lost item was found, keep the replacement iPad became insurance fraud. The OP has a duty to inform UPS & Apple and return the replacement.
Concealing the fact that he no longer is entitled to the insurance settlement is Insurance Fraud.
Not just my opinion. Laws and definitions vary by state, but here is what the California Penal code says about it:
550(b) It is unlawful to do... any of the following: ... (3) Conceal, or knowingly fail to disclose the occurrence of, an event that affects any person's initial or continued right or entitlement to any insurance benefit or payment, or the amount of any benefit or payment to which the person is entitled.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=548-551
So the OP is now "concealing an event" (lost iPad showing up) which affects his continued entitlement to the insurance benefit (replacement iPad).
Punishment?
c) (1) Every person who violates paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of subdivision (a) is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for two, three, or five years, and by a fine not exceeding fifty thousand dollars ($50,000), or double the amount of the fraud, whichever is greater.
So is it worth facing a criminal record, a $50k fine, and imprisonment? These are some pretty serious penalties. Ignorance of the law is never a valid defense.Since if they "track you down", you could be subject to some severe penalties, I would recommend you do the right, moral thing, and return the goods which you are not entitled to.
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Really, the "karma" argument?
There is no such thing as karma; it's a laughable, kindergarden-level social construct that people use to convince themselves the world has some natural balance, some means of doling out justice. It's a silly notion used by the weak and powerless to feel better.
Keep it, don't keep it - either way, there is no cosmic order monitoring your behaviour.
There is no such thing as karma; it's a laughable, kindergarden-level social construct that people use to convince themselves the world has some natural balance, some means of doling out justice. It's a silly notion used by the weak and powerless to feel better.
Keep it, don't keep it - either way, there is no cosmic order monitoring your behaviour.
To the OP
I see where you're coming from and I definitely agree that it would be tempting to keep it. HOWEVER, I think that since you were just going to buy one originally, and had already paid for it, you may as well call apple and tell them you got it. Maybe they tell you to keep it, maybe they bill you, but at least you have the piece of mind that you did the right thing and I'm sure you could use the good karma just like the rest of us, it'll pay off with something else. Besides, it's not like it would end up costing you anything extra since you had originally paid for it in the first place.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck. I just hope you do the honorable thing because, quite frankly, there aren't enough honorable people left in this world and it's really a shame.
I see where you're coming from and I definitely agree that it would be tempting to keep it. HOWEVER, I think that since you were just going to buy one originally, and had already paid for it, you may as well call apple and tell them you got it. Maybe they tell you to keep it, maybe they bill you, but at least you have the piece of mind that you did the right thing and I'm sure you could use the good karma just like the rest of us, it'll pay off with something else. Besides, it's not like it would end up costing you anything extra since you had originally paid for it in the first place.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck. I just hope you do the honorable thing because, quite frankly, there aren't enough honorable people left in this world and it's really a shame.
Keep it. We don't get much good luck in life these days. Apple, UPS, etc are all getting paid. Karma doesn't exist. It's a child's argument, and make-believe should be left to children. Just be a good person and pay it forward. Next time you see a homeless guy, buy him lunch. Take your luck, and don't listen to these fools telling you to "do the right thing". You did all the right things when you were told your product was lost in delivery. Steps were taken by UPS and Apple, and you were righted. It's not your fault they didn't tell you "just wait a couple days to see if it turns up". That's THEIR policy. You're dealing with multiple multi-billion dollar corporations. They don't care. Win for the little guy.
how do you know the free ipad isn't karma for him getting ripped off earlier?
Wow, you sound like a fun dinner date. OP, you can't keep the iPad no matter what anyone says on this board. I appreciate that you put this out there to froth the waters of these iPad-hungry malcontents with serious OCD. Do the right thing, not what you can get away with.
So a lunch for someone down on their luck is equal to about $500+?
Wow... just, wow.
Here's a stellar thought: Call Apple. Return the iPad. And buy someone less fortunate lunch.
Yup, that's what I said. Glad you're so "wow'd" by it. It's called paying good luck forward. That's all it is is luck. To the OP, good fortune is a free $500 iPad. To a homeless man, equal luck is a free lunch one day. I don't judge the circumstances of people or how they perceive value as you do.
I think any attempt to rationalize this theft is pathetic. Some things are open to interpretation. This is not. The difference between right and wrong should not be this difficult.
If the OP decides to keep the iPad, that is theft. Period. No ifs, ands, buts, or wait! No excuses about the insurance company having paid, Apple having too much money, him getting lucky, nope. Nada. This is crystal clear. And the right thing to do is crystal clear.
This may sound judgmental, but there are some basic truths any decent human being should recognize. And keeping something that is not yours, that came to your possession through whatever means, is just plain wrong. And some of the replies to the contrary are just very sad. If we can't agree on something as basic as returning something that doesn't belong to us, then we are lost.
"Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching."
(C.S. Lewis).
If the OP decides to keep the iPad, that is theft. Period. No ifs, ands, buts, or wait! No excuses about the insurance company having paid, Apple having too much money, him getting lucky, nope. Nada. This is crystal clear. And the right thing to do is crystal clear.
This may sound judgmental, but there are some basic truths any decent human being should recognize. And keeping something that is not yours, that came to your possession through whatever means, is just plain wrong. And some of the replies to the contrary are just very sad. If we can't agree on something as basic as returning something that doesn't belong to us, then we are lost.
"Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching."
(C.S. Lewis).
Luck is just coincidence. Karma is something that is invested in and believed. In my experience, there's no such thing as tangible luck, but that's what the vernacular is for chance these days.
How about the Golden Rule: treat others the way you want to be treated? Do the right thing and your friends and family will respect you as a man of integrity.
Hold a good conscience and you never have to worry or fear, live your life the right way, take pride in being a decent person. Whatever belief system you have will likely make you realize that there's a reward in store for you at some point for doing the right thing.
I mentioned luck, not karma, because people understand luck better than they understand chance. Just explaining to the lowest common denominator apparently.
I had a similar situation a few years ago with a guitar. I bought a beater guitar to take with me on a deployment and 2 showed up 2 days apart. I contacted them and they told me to just keep it and enjoy. Was nowhere close to 500 bucks, but cool nonetheless.
But why use something that doesn't exist as your reason for acting poorly? Why not say unicorns?
I'm not a perfect person. I've done morally wrong things in my life.
I don't brag about them though. This is your decision to make. Leave us out of it.