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I don't understand the point of having a front-facing camera on the iPad for video chat. If you're pointing the camera at your crotch, how would you see the screen?

You wouldn't see the screen if you point the camera at your crotch. However, place it so you can see the screen and the camera is pointing at your face.

You were joking, right?
 
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Ill try make this simple just in case Steve Jobs reads the comment.

iPad with front facing camera = ibuy.
iPhone with front facing camera = ibuy.


juts put a dam camera in them only cost $10 max. and if theres room in the iPad maybe even a SD card reader.

iPad and iPhone would do so god dam well!

AND PLUS the enjoyment of me taking gagging photos of my self, like a little emo kid in front of the mirror Priceless :p jj
 
Just think about it. Apples works very hard at the design and user experience.

If the Ipad had a camera ether you would tire your arms out holding out far enough from your face, or the other person would be looking up your nose it you had it on your lap.

The only time I see the camera working is when docked, and well thats not very apple to me.

I want a webcam in it, but I seriously can't see it working in a tablet. do to the fact that a laptop base sits flat a webcam works.

Then what about front facing cameras on mobile phones?
 
This photo from Ars shows the circle, looks to small to be a camera though.
 

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Seriously, you'd have to be a moron to buy the 1.0 version of the iPad. But you just know there will be scores of dimwits sleeping outside the Apple stores the night before the iPad goes on sale.

You do understand that if everybody thought that way that we wouldn't have an iPhone or an iMac or a Mac Pro or any other Apple device since they would have folded up and gone out of business?
 
It is a different tale...

- they wanted to keep the price as low as they possibly can

Yep, 'cos a few dollars could be saved on the camera itself and a few more dollars on the extra development costs...

I don't think that the rounded-up price figures (minus 1 dollar) couldn't accommodate that extra tenner as an expenditure. I mean, starting at $499 going up to twice as much... come on!


I would blame organisational inefficiency: some mid-management figure f@@@ed it up at development and Bob Mansfield didn't act in time, because he was more busy with worrying about the lack of USB, battery performance, the massive touch screen and why the tablet needed an inch thick bezel.

Jony Ive was furious - he designed camera for the front and the back, but the back was always tricky, because of the tapered edges. Also, the 3G versions caused some unforeseen problems, because of the placement of the plastic bit that covers the aerial. "But... but this was supposed to be IT. This was supposed to be it! I mean... I mean..." - sighted Ive.

Schiller almost resigned - "you gotta be kidding! No camera on the freaking tablet?! We're gonna be hammered by the press!" "Don't worry, we will get away with this" - said Jobs. "People would kill for this thing."

"Yeah", thought Schiller, "they would kill you."

"Aaanywaaay! Whoever doesn't want to be in the ad and has his face known by the public, can keep moaning and f@@@ off! The rest... TO THE CORNER!!!" - shouted Steven Paul Jobs, current CEO. At once, everybody knew that this was the time when everybody had to shut their mouths. It was obvious that the next CEO would be one of the Senior Vice Presidents. Not appearing in the ad would have been accepting that there was no point campaigning for the position.

"Besides, who the hell would buy an iPhone next year, if they had the same functions on the tablet?" - asked Jobs the terrified board members. "Yeah, yeah, just call it on its name, it wasn't my idea! Phew! iPad... what a joke!" - thought Schiller, while a wet patch started to appear on the front of his khaki.

And another day just passed in Cupertino...
 
why would the ipad that jobs demoed have a 'hidden' webcam, when the ipads on display for the press to play with didn't? if it was a secret, wouldn't jobs just have used one of the demo units? And why would they make a bunch of demo units with flush bezels and no camera just for the press to use?

seems like a lot of trouble to go to just to pull a surprise of limited value out of the hat in March.


Although I do hope they add one. Anything that stops me needing to go to my main computer will be a benefit. So I'd like to add blurays to my dvdpedia collection using the webcam for example.
 
More like:

Just add a camera. Not a big deal.

Sent from my iPhone.





Ill try make this simple just in case Steve Jobs reads the comment.

iPad with front facing camera = ibuy.
iPhone with front facing camera = ibuy.


juts put a dam camera in them only cost $10 max. and if theres room in the iPad maybe even a SD card reader.

iPad and iPhone would do so god dam well!

AND PLUS the enjoyment of me taking gagging photos of my self, like a little emo kid in front of the mirror Priceless :p jj
 
I think it is clear that Apple originally intended to have a camera in the iPad. However Apple are also a company that would not want to implement a feature that worked poorly. I am not a video compression expert, but I know that to compress video well so that you can stream over WiFi or 3G the software compares each frame and looks at the information that moves from frame to Frame. If you have a stable camera on say a desktop mac or notebook then the compression software only has to worry about what is moving ( the face), on a handheld device like the iPad the whole frame is probably moving, and I suspect the video quality was poor. I belive that is why it was pulled. Yes I know that many phones have video camera capability, but these issues will not appear to be so bad as the screen resolution is a lot less.

Yes you can dock the IPad, but that defeats the purpose of it in the first point. Apple don't want people to say 'the web cam quality sucks'

This is just my theory on why you will not see an iSight in the iPad.
 
I'm still using a first generation iPhone. I'll be getting a first generation iPad on the day it goes on sale in the UK.

It wont be till the third or fourth gen of the iPad that it has everything I want. Full handwriting recognition with optional stylus for notes, equations and drawing diagrams.

As for a camera I'd use a FM radio more, not important at all.
 
This is true because I have seen a camera dot on this iPad on the keynote at the time of 9:09 if you look carefully. Here's the snapshot! :) I know this image has been posted but I wanted to post a bigger image. I wonder why Apple removed the camera... :/


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Seriously, you'd have to be a moron to buy the 1.0 version of the iPad. But you just know there will be scores of dimwits sleeping outside the Apple stores the night before the iPad goes on sale.

Then they will complain when in 6 months, the camera will be added and the price will go down.
 
So we are assuming that only the iPad Steve had on stage has a camera? I think the journalist would have noticed a camera while they were playing around with it after the keynote. Unless this is a huge cover up to boost sales when the iPad is finally release, there is only a camera on Steve's personal iPad. I bet it has flash too!
 
+ the hooks found in the iPad SDK = The plot thickens!

That's nonsense. Since the iPad runs the same software as the iPhone, and there are iPhones with cameras, there _must_ be code in the iPad to check whether it has a camera or not. It is unavoidable.
 
All this conspiracy theory. It's already been reported that the camera supplier couldn't supply Apple with enough such cameras to meet iPad production, and still meet their other committments to Apple laptops and all the other laptop mfgrs that have copied Apple's trend of wide application of built-in cameras.

All of this mental masturbation on the issue is amusing, and predictable for this forum, but pretty pointless.
 
And if we look at the Engadget leaked images. The hole at the top of the screen is pretty large.

Is this really for an ambient light sensor?

C.
It would seem like your hand would cover it up when holding the device in landscape...
 
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