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iPad ignored in iOS 10

M. Gustave said:
Ok, well people need to invest in and learn iOS just like any other operating system.
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Well, for me, expecting people to look in Accessibility settings for guest features isn't user friendly at all. I have hearing, vision, and mobility problems, so I'm always poking away through the Accessibility settings, but I don't think it's fair for people looking for guest mode to have to look under Accessibility -- after all, guest mode has nothing to do with accessibility in most people's minds.
 
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jclardy said:
Pretty much the only two things iPad specific were split screen safari, and Swift Playgrounds. A ton of stuff seems to be 3D touch only (Like the improved notifications...that should be interesting given neither iPad can use them, nor the iPhone SE.)

My biggest disappointment is that the slideover UI still sucks and the multitasking UI also still sucks on the iPad.
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Did a quick search in the forums and I haven't seen real confirmation yet...

Does this mean iOS 10 still uses the horrible single-column scrolling app selector for multitasking? Let's hope they're still planning to fix that, it's the worst...
 
lordroddington said:
Did a quick search in the forums and I haven't seen real confirmation yet...

Does this mean iOS 10 still uses the horrible single-column scrolling app selector for multitasking? Let's hope they're still planning to fix that, it's the worst...
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I really like the way Samsung does it. Hold the task switcher to bring up a list of app icons, pick one to use on one side of the screen, then the icons switch to the other side for you to select the other app.

If you're already in an app when you activate it, it just shrinks that app to one side of the screen and gives you a list of icons to pick from.
 
bensisko said:
Personally, I like it.
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I just find that it's gotten very cluttered. I also thought it was supposed to prioritize the order of the apps, but I find that is rarely the case - I find frequently used apps buried at the bottom of the list all the time.
 
lordroddington said:
I just find that it's gotten very cluttered. I also thought it was supposed to prioritize the order of the apps, but I find that is rarely the case - I find frequently used apps buried at the bottom of the list all the time.
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Agree. Very clumsy implementation. I really didn't have high hopes that Apple would spend much time focusing on iPads with the latest iOS so I am not surprised that there isn't much for it - still disappointed a bit though. With a little bit of work, this device could be massively more useful to me.
 
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lordroddington said:
I just find that it's gotten very cluttered. I also thought it was supposed to prioritize the order of the apps, but I find that is rarely the case - I find frequently used apps buried at the bottom of the list all the time.
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Actually, I thought that frequently used apps get moved to the bottom, and least used apps are at the top. Counterintuitive, for sure! In any case, scrolling through a single column of apps to find the app you want to switch to is a totally inefficient way to do it, especially when the order of the apps keep changing!
 
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richpjr said:
I really would only need a mouse or trackpad when using the Apple keyboard when I'm not using the built in keyboard. You cannot have multiple instances of the same app open at the same time (i.e. 2 different word documents open in side by side windows).
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Considering that Safari is getting this option, that would be a software issue, so it will come in an update from Microsoft.
 
temna said:
Considering that Safari is getting this option, that would be a software issue, so it will come in an update from Microsoft.
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Haven't had a chance to view the keynote yet. Was there any mention that this would be something software devs can implement in third party apps?
 
Night Spring said:
Haven't had a chance to view the keynote yet. Was there any mention that this would be something software devs can implement in third party apps?
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Yeah I dont think its open to third party apps at this time, maybe a dev can enlighten us
 
I don't think they should put macOS, as it is right now, on an iPad but should maybe have a windowed mode on iOS for the iPad pros or maybe dual boot or something. But it would only be active once a keyboard and mouse/trackpad are connected.
I would love to see iPads running macOS applications but wouldn't there compatibility issues between X86 and ARM processors or could this be resolved?
 
Appleaker said:
I don't think they should put macOS, as it is right now, on an iPad but should maybe have a windowed mode on iOS for the iPad pros or maybe dual boot or something. But it would only be active once a keyboard and mouse/trackpad are connected.
I would love to see iPads running macOS applications but wouldn't there compatibility issues between X86 and ARM processors or could this be resolved?
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Ugh. That would be the fastest way to get me to stop using iOS devices.
 
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M. Gustave said:
Why? You want tiny touch targets, tiny menus, massive local storage requirements, and processor resource hogging? Try a Surface. I found it to be an awful tablet experience.
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bensisko said:
Ugh. That would be the fastest way to get me to stop using iOS devices.
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Obviously I don't mean with the only input being the touchscreen - that would be horrible and I hope Apple never do it. If you read what I said, I said that it would activate only when a keyboard and trackpad/mouse are connected and everything would return to a standard iOS state when they are detached/disconnected.

If the only way they do it is through the touchscreen, I would rather not see it but if they can do something like that then it might work. Better than macOS on a tablet as people keep suggesting as the only way Apple can truly label that as 'pro' devices.
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bensisko said:
Ugh. That would be the fastest way to get me to stop using iOS devices.
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Why would it make you stop using them? The windowed mode would only be on the iPad Pro and only active when the correct peripherals are connected. Similar to how tablet and desktop mode works on Windows 10.
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Aluminum213 said:
hey, at least we get a swift coding app.... FOR FREE


thank you Tim Cook for remembering the iPad
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Yeah that's the best feature in my opinion. Even if it is just a swift learning app, it can be useful when testing code, etc.
 
canesalato said:
iOS 10 has support for raw photo editing.
Raw files are the digital equivalents of the old analogic negatives, while Jpegs are the equivalent of developed pictures.
Raw support is crucial in any serious photography work, but it's pretty complicate and only a few companies can affort to do it, like Adobe. Apple is one of these companies, as macOS has supported raw formats for years. Up to version 9, iOS has only supported storing raw files, not editing them. In iOS10, third party apps should have access to apple raw photo engine. The same engine that is used in Photos for macOS, the same engine that Aperture used.
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Yes, and here is an example:

I recently shot some photos from my Canon 5K MKII DSLR. I always shoot in RAW. Since previously I have been using Aperture (and not used my DSLR in a while), I decided to try to import them in Photos App on my MacBook. I can do edits within Photos on OSX and the edited photo syncs to my iPad and iPhone fine.... BUT on the IOS devices I cannot see the actual edits values (eg. it would show if I adjusted brightness, exposure etc. and give values but these are all 0). If I start editing the "RAW" file on my iPad, then it converts to a JPG for editing. Keep in mind that the RAW is NEVER lost and I can always revert to original but the way it is now I lose the ability to do any edits on iPad properly.
 
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Peepo said:
Yes, and here is an example:

I recently shot some photos from my Canon 5K MKII DSLR. I always shoot in RAW. Since previously I have been using Aperture (and not used my DSLR in a while), I decided to try to import them in Photos App on my MacBook. I can do edits within Photos on OSX and the edited photo syncs to my iPad and iPhone fine.... BUT on the IOS devices I cannot see the actual edits values (eg. it would show if I adjusted brightness, exposure etc. and give values but these are all 0). If I start editing the "RAW" file on my iPad, then it converts to a JPG for editing. Keep in mind that the RAW is NEVER lost and I can always revert to original but the way it is now I lose the ability to do any edits on iPad properly.
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But that's how it is in iOS9, right? And iOS 10 will change this? Sorry, I may have lost track of the discussion, but I don't understand what this is an exmaple of.
 
Appleaker said:
Obviously I don't mean with the only input being the touchscreen - that would be horrible and I hope Apple never do it. If you read what I said, I said that it would activate only when a keyboard and trackpad/mouse are connected and everything would return to a standard iOS state when they are detached/disconnected.

If the only way they do it is through the touchscreen, I would rather not see it but if they can do something like that then it might work. Better than macOS on a tablet as people keep suggesting as the only way Apple can truly label that as 'pro' devices.

Why would it make you stop using them? The windowed mode would only be on the iPad Pro and only active when the correct peripherals are connected. Similar to how tablet and desktop mode works on Windows 10.
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Yep and it's abysmal on Windows 10. Windows 10 has no right, in any sense of the word, to call that dreck "Tablet Mode" - there's nothing "tablet" about it! Now... MAYBE if they had kept the Windows 8.1 UI for "Tablet Mode", then it would have been better, but it really is absolute Garbage on Windows 10. I LOVED Windows 8.1 - that doesn't mean I thought it was perfect, but it was pretty bold and it was a good direction for the Surface (I understand and agree the UI was terrible for desktop, so Windows 10 is a good thing for desktop computers).

I think Continuum is a good idea, but, in the end they really need different UIs for the Surface and mobile. Ever tried using Windows 10 (in tablet Mode) on an 8" Windows tablet (Dell Venue 8)? It's not a pleasant experience. If they realized that the UI needs to be different (yet could still access the same frameworks, etc.), then I think it would be a MUCH better experience!

I'm really hoping Windows gets there eventually - even if it takes a couple years - but for now, I wish I had Windows 8.1 back. =(
 
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Night Spring said:
But that's how it is in iOS9, right? And iOS 10 will change this? Sorry, I may have lost track of the discussion, but I don't understand what this is an exmaple of.
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IOS 9 cannot edit RAW files - it silently converts to JPG first, then does the edits.
IOS 10 is supposed to allow actual editing of RAW files.
 
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