iPad Pro and iPhone X Win 'Displays of the Year' Awards

[predation]

funny because I returned my x because of the screen. terrible off-axis colors.

 

[EdT]

Funny people forget these are Samsung screens

I haven’t forgotten but I have been puzzled. Is there some hardware difference between Samsung OLED screens and Apple’s? I don’t believe that resolution is the same for both but I may be wrong. If the hardware is identical then is this award celebrating a non-difference?

 

[kildraik]

I have an iPhone X and think the 8’s display is better.

 

[Tech198]

It wouldn't be much of an award because you would only center on Apple devices... "Quick, we gotta throw a few Samsung phones in to show we care about other companies as well"

 

[tooltalk]

Manufacturing capacity, price, yield, backlog, terms, etc. Does LG even provide contract manufacturing for displays like Samsung?

Should kudos go to TSMC for manufacturing Apple's Ax processors used in iPhones and iPads, in TSMC's foundry?

TSMC (pure-foundry) fab's custom chips. Apple designs the IC.

Samsung engineers and manufactures displays. Apple asks Samsung "please make us XX displays with XX brightness, XX pixel arrangement that you already have, XX dimension with ughly notch, and so on" and pays Samsung a boatload of money for it.

That's the only difference I see here.

 

[eoblaed]

And there will still be people on these forums that poo-poo the X because of the blue shift on the OLED or some other nonsense.

The display on the X is amazing. I love it and appreciate it every day. I cannot wait to get a plus sized version this Fall.

 

[Macaholic868]

The iPhone X has a gorgeous display! I am not a displayphile so I figured I wouldn’t notice. Boy was I mistaken on that one. The only downside is how quickly you have to shut it off after inactivity to follow Apple’s recommended settings to avoid burn in.

 

[tooltalk]

I haven’t forgotten but I have been puzzled. Is there some hardware difference between Samsung OLED screens and Apple’s? I don’t believe that resolution is the same for both but I may be wrong. If the hardware is identical then is this award celebrating a non-difference?

They are not different in substance according to one notable display expert -- Dr. Soneira from Displaymate made the following comment about the iPhone X's AMOLED display:

First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.

If Samsung keeps pushing AMOLED, we would continue to see better accuracy, dynamic range, pixel count, power efficiency, but these improvements are not going to come from Apple. It just happens that Apple's last flagship release was at the end of the year and it seems like Apple got the best and latest from Samsung.

 

[macduke]

What's that weird dent in one side of the X display though? I can't find a setting to remove it. The Note 8 for example doesn't have it. I sure love me a clean, symmetrical rectangle that doesn't intrude on the content.

Suddenly being symmetrical matters? LOL, OK.

 

[tooltalk]

Wasn’t there an article here a few weeks ago about the Samsung S9’s display being slightly better calibrated according to some display testing site?

That's somewhat expected, considering that the Galaxy S9 came out after the last iPhone release (2017) and has the atest of everything Samsung AMOLED has to offer.

 

[nStyle]

Once you go OLED you don't go back...but even the iPad's screen at this point is incredibly close.

 

[Zaft]

It’s not bloody edge to edge, or entirely screen apart from the notch! It has thick bezels on every side!

I rather have some side bezel than a useless edge screen and chin on the bottom of the gs9 or others. iPhone goes for an overall equal bezel.

 

[tooltalk]

Lol. Calling the iPhone X display a Samsung display is just like calling the iPhone X a Foxconn phone.

Samsung is a contract manufacturer for this display. Apple didn’t purchase a Samsung part number, they sub-contracted Samsung to manufacture these displays, to Apple designed specifications/tolerances/etc. which then undergoes additional processes AFTER Apple receives the components from the manufacturer.

The difference between good and great typically comes from those tolerances and additional processes. Those things raise component prices because you have lower yields that meet spec. In addition, processing further beyond manufacturing raises cost more.

Those are the things that separate Apple displays from others. Not raw technology (OLED), but processing.

LOL. This is hilarious!! You folks really like the word "design."

First, no, you don't "design" specifications in the same way that you design a chip. Second, you don't need nearly as many engineers, billions in R&D or hefty IP portfolio to write specs for off-the-shelf parts -- with tiny tweaks here and there. Lastly, yes, at the end of the day, the only reason that Samsung is at the top with 95+% of the market share and ranked #1 in mobile displays for several years is largely due to their superior processing/manufacturing/engineering, not Apple's wonderful "spec" writing or PO (purchase order).

 

[NT1440]

Funny people forget these are Samsung screens

Funny people forget how Apple works with their manufacturers for their own run of displays with their own technology in it. As in, these are not off the shelf displays.

 

[Kardinal1911]

I have both of these sitting on my desk right now, actually.



Samsung may manufacture the display, but it's Apples design. One does have to wonder if Apple has some sort of clause in their contracts stating that a manufacturer can't take any of their designs to be used in their own products (ie, a Super Retina Display ending up on a Galaxy S10 or whatever they call their next one. (If it's S10, I hope Chevrolet sues the pants off them, lol)).

It’s callled intellectual property and patents

 

[hajime]

Hope Apple is not going to ruin it with the up-coming IIP.

 

[Kardinal1911]

What design? You mean Apple designed the iPhone frame? LOL..

No, these are the same displays engineered and manufactured by Samsung, tweaked for their customer, Apple. It's not surprising that Apple won the award this year, considering that Samsung won pretty much all previous mobile display award from SID preceding years and all Apple did was to use Samsung's same displays.

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about... apple designs their entire display from the ground up, they source the parts and Samsung and LG manufacture them because Apple doesn’t have the capability(at this time) to do so..
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One touch on my fp reader unlocks much faster though because I never have to align my face to do it, it's basically already unlocked by the time I've brought the phone into my field of sight...?

And I'm still not seeing a notch on the Note 8 nor the upcoming Note 9 seems to have it.

Give it up TOUCH ID is dead!

 

[tooltalk]

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about... apple designs their entire display from the ground up, they source the parts and Samsung and LG manufacture them because Apple doesn’t have the capability(at this time) to do so..
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Give it up TOUCH ID is dead!

I stopped reading your post right after you used word "design." *sigh*
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Funny people forget how Apple works with their manufacturers for their own run of displays with their own technology in it. As in, these are not off the shelf displays.

Would you mind explaining what Apple's underlying technology contributed to the iPhone X's AMOLED display?

 

[wemax]

Didn't know the iPhone X screen was 120Hz. Time to take back what I said about it being a pointless upgrade.

touch input is 120hz but display is still 60hz

 

[citysnaps]

And there will still be people on these forums that poo-poo the X because of the blue shift on the OLED or some other nonsense.

The display on the X is amazing. I love it and appreciate it every day. I cannot wait to get a plus sized version this Fall.

Poo-poo? You don't care or are fussy about color. Some people are.

I like everything about my X. Except that. Speaking as a photographer who cares about color who was extremely satisfied with my 6+ LCD display.
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Once you go OLED you don't go back...but even the iPad's screen at this point is incredibly close.

Unless you're a photographer who really cares about color.

 

[tito2020]

But..but..but..Samsung phones have the best rated displays...!!!

yes at the end of the day samsumg still has best display dont forget sammy made them

 

[citysnaps]

TSMC (pure-foundry) fab's custom chips. Apple designs the IC.

Samsung engineers and manufactures displays. Apple asks Samsung "please make us XX displays with XX brightness, XX pixel arrangement that you already have, XX dimension with ughly notch, and so on" and pays Samsung a boatload of money for it.

That's the only difference I see here.

Perhaps that's because you're just speculating about Apple's input and process working with Samsung, where you believe it boils down to a few sentences simply specifying dimensions, brightness, and pixel arrangement?

 

[fairuz]

touch input is 120hz but display is still 60hz

I'm seeing 120Hz display everywhere. The article also says it helps with movies. Where do you see that it's only 60Hz?

 

[wemax]

I'm seeing 120Hz display everywhere. The article also says it helps with movies. Where do you see that it's only 60Hz?

the ipad pro 10.5 and 12.9 gen 2 have 120hz. apple calls it ProMotion

https://developer.apple.com/library...iOSDeviceCompatibility/Displays/Displays.html

you can go to "Display Refresh" and see what each device is capable of

 

[WhiteHawk]

Not really. Its well known Apple has a contract with Samsung for the 5.8 OLED display. Also, you do realize that Apple calibrates their displays accordingly as well, so it’s not necessarily just a Samsung display, as Apple has them tuned to their specification.

I'm somewhat surprised - I have an iPhone 4 and put my phone next to an iPhone X on display in a phone store, put both displays on the maximum brightness and there wasn't as huge of a difference that I expected.


[I'm very much a non-technical person btw]

Not my experience, coming from a iPhone 6s to the X I expected the screen to be less bright on the X as OLED can’t go as bright as LCD displays but it’s actually the brightest iPhone screen I’ve ever had.