The enterprise market requested a larger screen for more viewable real estate. You can hold the iPP at clipboard level and make the text larger...my doctors office is gonna love it!
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iPad Pro Online Orders Start November 11, Available in Stores Later This Week
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The enterprise market requested a larger screen for more viewable real estate. You can hold the iPP at clipboard level and make the text larger...my doctors office is gonna love it!
For those thinking maybe they should go for the Surface Pro/Book line, you should pay attention to the enormously broad swath of complaints levied at its terrible production quality and numerous problems across the board.
I have all the reasons one could think of to choose one of those devices over iPad Pro but I can not in good conscience do so. Besides the in-person experience being rather poor (heavy, low quality construction) there are numerous software/firmware/hardware issues being reported all over the place, reviews on every site, enthusiast forums like /r/surface, and so on. Thing is, this is the same occurrence on every Surface product launch from the very beginning, except this year seems substantially higher volume. Some are speculating it's due to Microsoft downsizing massively their testing department last year. I don't know. But I did monitor the complaint rate on a few enthusiast forums back when I was considering the SP3. That rate is absolutely exploded. It is not "par for the course" for normal ambient complaining. There are serious flaws in these products.
And why should that surprise you? Whey else are you thinking about iPad Pro? The iOS lineup is immensely stable and well performing compared to all other platforms, that's the #1 reason to even consider it for non-phone uses at this point, I think.
So if you really do think the Surface Pro/Surface Book is the better fit, be prepared to deal with Windows hell and half baked hardware designs. Considering how livid people get around here at the slightest flaws with iPads at launch, I can't even imagine those same people using, say, the Surface Book (which has a tablet the same size as iPad Pro) what with the properly produced models experiencing creaking cases and LCD ripple along the sides when held normally, and so on.
It's true, the Surface options have more power, and run desktop software, and maybe there are specific niches that they serve better, but, it's always a sub-par experience with software not optimized for touch or only barely so.
In reality, the iPad Pro is a new product category and it is going to take time for software to show up that properly serves it. Or maybe it never will. But it's not the same product as the Surface line. Those are windows notebooks in slightly newish form factors and they include every single windows laptop cliche problem you could imagine.
Personally, I'm still weighing the decision. Surface Book for $2,100 (i7, 8GB ram, 256gb storage) vs. iPad Pro top end with cellular for 1079. Different devices, yes. Pros and cons in each for me. Legitimate reasons to choose either. But right now the biggest problem I have here is the instability of Surface products that is only worse now. Tough call!
I have all the reasons one could think of to choose one of those devices over iPad Pro but I can not in good conscience do so. Besides the in-person experience being rather poor (heavy, low quality construction) there are numerous software/firmware/hardware issues being reported all over the place, reviews on every site, enthusiast forums like /r/surface, and so on. Thing is, this is the same occurrence on every Surface product launch from the very beginning, except this year seems substantially higher volume. Some are speculating it's due to Microsoft downsizing massively their testing department last year. I don't know. But I did monitor the complaint rate on a few enthusiast forums back when I was considering the SP3. That rate is absolutely exploded. It is not "par for the course" for normal ambient complaining. There are serious flaws in these products.
And why should that surprise you? Whey else are you thinking about iPad Pro? The iOS lineup is immensely stable and well performing compared to all other platforms, that's the #1 reason to even consider it for non-phone uses at this point, I think.
So if you really do think the Surface Pro/Surface Book is the better fit, be prepared to deal with Windows hell and half baked hardware designs. Considering how livid people get around here at the slightest flaws with iPads at launch, I can't even imagine those same people using, say, the Surface Book (which has a tablet the same size as iPad Pro) what with the properly produced models experiencing creaking cases and LCD ripple along the sides when held normally, and so on.
It's true, the Surface options have more power, and run desktop software, and maybe there are specific niches that they serve better, but, it's always a sub-par experience with software not optimized for touch or only barely so.
In reality, the iPad Pro is a new product category and it is going to take time for software to show up that properly serves it. Or maybe it never will. But it's not the same product as the Surface line. Those are windows notebooks in slightly newish form factors and they include every single windows laptop cliche problem you could imagine.
Personally, I'm still weighing the decision. Surface Book for $2,100 (i7, 8GB ram, 256gb storage) vs. iPad Pro top end with cellular for 1079. Different devices, yes. Pros and cons in each for me. Legitimate reasons to choose either. But right now the biggest problem I have here is the instability of Surface products that is only worse now. Tough call!
It's a small correction, but online orders start (unusually) on the 12th November in NZ:
http://www.apple.com/nz/pr/library/...ursday-Arrives-in-Stores-Later-This-Week.html
http://www.apple.com/nz/pr/library/...ursday-Arrives-in-Stores-Later-This-Week.html
Yeah, it could be, but I was talking about the iPad Pro with the black background. Looks much better with a black background so edge to edge display looks legit.
Don't know much about supply chains eh?
Comparing the apple tv to this doesn't work. Need to look at past ipad releases...which have experienced delays.
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"It doesn't run full Adobe Suite"
If you're looking to run Photoshop on a tablet you have bigger problems.
"It doesn't run full Microsoft Office"
It's fully capable, Microsoft doesn't have a full (or even useable) version of office out for iPad.
"I can't run uTorrent, this is a failure"
I feel like the Macrumors forums are full of users that wait around for new products then troll constantly when they're announced and constantly comment about what they won't/can't do. I'm sure some even have "This would never happen under Steve Jobs" set up as a text expander. You people seriously need to get a life.
If you're looking to run Photoshop on a tablet you have bigger problems.
"It doesn't run full Microsoft Office"
It's fully capable, Microsoft doesn't have a full (or even useable) version of office out for iPad.
"I can't run uTorrent, this is a failure"
I feel like the Macrumors forums are full of users that wait around for new products then troll constantly when they're announced and constantly comment about what they won't/can't do. I'm sure some even have "This would never happen under Steve Jobs" set up as a text expander. You people seriously need to get a life.
I'll quote my response to a similar question earlier today:
"Because Apple usually launches a new product with very clear messaging about when it will be available for pre-order and in-store sales. But the first message about sales and ordering didn't even come from them. Three other retailers announced it before Apple did. Not like their normal launch.
I always assume that they have a strategy for these things, even when they don't make sense on the surface. Maybe that's the case here, and it will become apparent later."
Additionally, the three different retailers that announced it before Apple gave two different release dates.
You are stretching. Everyone including you knows that this iPad will cater to a much smaller demographic than the other iPads. And again... You don't know how many they made. They would have restricted the amount of launch countries if inventory would be restricted. They still do it each year for the iPhone.
Yea I'm going to just do an in store demo and purchase of either the 128gig or 128gig with cellular
Yeah, that's heavy. Try holding one - with a case - for extended periods of time.
And what does thinner and lighter do? Well Apple have maintained the same battery life since the iPad 1 whilst getting thinner and lighter so it has no effect so long as you have decent engineers on your side, of which Apple does.
My first thought, as an amateur astronomer, is there's no way you'd use an iPad while observing without at least putting some kind of red filter over the screen. Even on minimum brightness, it seems very bright at night and would immediately kill your night vision.
Apple UK site still not displaying prices. Cannot think of anything that might influence currency fluctuations at the moment. As a customer in England I realise we draw the short straw when it comes to Apple prices. Do we really have to wait until launch for this information?
Just spoke to John Lewis UK and they aren't doing pre orders. So will have to order on release day
this might be an iPad I won't buy never ....
I'm taking the opposite way: want to replace my iPad Air with a Mini 4. I now have a MBP 13" when I need screen estate.
This clearly isn't a product for everyone ....
Luckily the entry level isn't 16 Gb ....
Again, this isn't a product to everyone.
BTW My opinion is Apple is selling all the iPad lineup at the wrong price in late 2015.
Mini and Air are priced $50-100 above the right level. iPad Pro, to differentiate, is priced about $150 above the right price.....
do you really think this thing is fine for taking pictures ???
Did you see its dimensions ?
It will be higher than in US, take that for granted ....
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I have to disagree, was really on the fence between both and I decided to try the surface pro 4. After just 2 days I will be returning it.
In fairness it's just not the tool I need for the job, it's really a laptop more then a tablet but what I want is a not another laptop.
I like the idea of a big boy OS but the surface pro's lapability is just not cutting it lol, I prefer the iPad's couchability =p
I am open to changing my,mind in the future the surface pro 4 is a very nice product just not what I need.
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Am I the only one who's noticed Apple's recent lethargy regarding the iPad Pro? After the initial product announcement, Apple basically went silent. Then, this Monday they announce preorders will be available Wednesday, but give no time at which preorders will be accepted and no firm date on which the product will be available in the retail stores. Can no one at Apple communicate a decision any more? Or make one?
Today, the day before pre-orders are to begin, the web site for iPad Pro still says "Available November." Wouldn't you think that a product that Apple presents as ground-breaking and the death of the PC would at least merit a web site update announcing preorders? Has anyone noticed that the Apple Pencil seems to get more attention than the iPad Pro?
To me, this entire episode speaks to Apple's lack of confidence in their products. After the less-than-remarkable debut of the Apple Watch, and in the face of declining iPad sales, could it be that Apple doesn't want to blow their horn too loudly lest someone notice if iPad Pro sales are less than stellar?
I hate to be one to keep digging Steve Jobs up and throwing him in Tim Cook's face, but I can't imagine a product launch as weak as this one happening on Jobs' watch.
Am I the only one who's noticed Apple's recent lethargy regarding the iPad Pro? After the initial product announcement, Apple basically went silent. Then, this Monday they announce preorders will be available Wednesday, but give no time at which preorders will be accepted and no firm date on which the product will be available in the retail stores. Can no one at Apple communicate a decision any more? Or make one?
Today, the day before pre-orders are to begin, the web site for iPad Pro still says "Available November." Wouldn't you think that a product that Apple presents as ground-breaking and the death of the PC would at least merit a web site update announcing preorders? Has anyone noticed that the Apple Pencil seems to get more attention than the iPad Pro?
To me, this entire episode speaks to Apple's lack of confidence in their products. After the less-than-remarkable debut of the Apple Watch, and in the face of declining iPad sales, could it be that Apple doesn't want to blow their horn too loudly lest someone notice if iPad Pro sales are less than stellar?
I hate to be one to keep digging Steve Jobs up and throwing him in Tim Cook's face, but I can't imagine a product launch as weak as this one happening on Jobs' watch.
I can just see people using these at concerts for photos. As if the mini wasn't bad enough at those events. Lol
I checked with AT&T again. They knew nothing other than come back on Wed. They may or may not have the new ones in stock. Really? All the other third parties seem to know enough to allow pre-orders.
Aside from maybe the iPad 1 or 2, I don't recall there being any delays with iPads. I've had no issues stopping into the Apple Store with no lines, no wait on launch day for past iPads.
Technically it isn't a stylus since you can only use it with certain apps and not system wide. It's a tool. Wait can it be used system wide? I haven't seen any videos of it being used that way.
Apple isn't holding back features. They release it for the platform when it is ready. 3D Touch on the iPad pro will be a different challenge to implement than it was on the iPhone. The iPad pro already have a screen that has been redesigned with new technologies and also has the highest resolution in all their mobile devices. Cut the guys some slack! And no it will not be obsolete sooner because it doesn't have 3D Touch when the next iteration may, that's not how obsolete works. As long as the device is able to power today's software, apps, web technologies and complete it's tasks in reasonable amount of time etc, it isn't obsolete.
It isn't confusing to keep older models around. They all have different product names and specs. Also if someone isn't sure which one to buy, they have a tongue in their mouth that can be used to ask questions.
Didn't know there was a right side to look at it. Unless you're looking at it an angle of north to South Pole. From space I don't think there is a right side or upside down.
Yes, but it also runs the exact same Adobe app that runs on an iPhone.
Adobe really needs to up their game on the app side if they want creative pros to use their software on an iPad Pro.
Other apps such as Graphic will step in and offer Creative Suite-like features if Adobe does not.
This is the main reason I'm waiting a few months on buying the iPad Pro: pro-ready apps likely won't be there at launch.