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I think the whole narrative of actual professional video creators using this toy as their go to camera was genuinely rediculous. Ok, let's toss out the RED camera and use an
iPhone instead.
Indeed. I'm not a professional photographer, but even though the iPhone is plenty good for everyday captures, I doubt it reaches near true pro-quality standalone equipment (including with the software enhancements to photos and videos).
 
Let’s face it: the design probably won’t win any awards. But the pictures and videos the phone takes just might.

Apple is often criticized for their form over function approach. The iPhone 11 Pro is the opposite: function over form. And that’s a good thing. I couldn’t care less what my camera lens looks like while I’m taking pictures.

Frankly, for me personally this phone will mean the end of my DSLR. As the saying goes in photography: the best camera is the one you have with you. I’ll be selling my equipment that I’ve only been using occasionally over the last few years as it’s heavy. Does the iPhone produce better quality images from a pixel-peeper perspective: probably not. I don’t care. The resolution is good enough. The AI and processing power runs circles around most DSLR and mirrorless cameras. And I have the iPhone with me all the time.
 
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Actually the competition is catching up with Apple and removing the audio jack.
Yea the competition has a long way to go to catch up to Apple Maps, Siri, iCloud, Email, Docs and so on.

Sorry to tell you but Apple is way behind buddy
 
Indeed. I'm not a professional photographer, but even though the iPhone is plenty good for everyday captures, I doubt it reaches near true pro-quality standalone equipment (including with the software enhancements to photos and videos).
Indeed. I'm not a professional photographer, but even though the iPhone is plenty good for everyday captures, I doubt it reaches near true pro-quality standalone equipment (including with the software enhancements to photos and videos).

you’re probably wrong about that. The quality is by far good enough for decently sized prints. Unless you produce large posters on a regular basis, the difference between this and a DSLR or mirrorless camera will be close to unrecognizable. Throw in a couple of clip-on lenses and also add the same kind of flexibility. The only thing you’ll have to consider is if you’re ok with the camera’s processing power and software post-prod is something you can live with or whether you prefer that the image quality comes out of the optics and sensor of a camera, as is the case with regular cameras.

for me, only the picture counts.
 
The green pros look like a WW II Jeep. Can I get one with a windshield wiper for the camera bump?
 
I’m not an engineer nor a product designer, but I think most humans have at least some sense of what is logical and what looks good. So ok, I get that the camera bump is the result of more camera functionality. Logical. But what I don’t understand is why they can’t work the bump into the design of the phone. Sitting in the corner, the bump looks like it was slapped on as an afterthought. And the lenses clumped together looks like a disease.
And I don’t want to be one of those people who criticize without offering a suggestion so here goes: I would think lining up the lenses in a row along the top edge of the phone, like I think I saw on some other phone, but maybe with black housing to hide the lenses, would look much better, plus solve the problem of wobbling when lying on a table top. Maybe they could even do a raised edge on the bottom of the phone for top-bottom symmetry, and help keep the lenses from touching a table’s surface. If the lenses need to be clumped together as close as possible to get accurate pictures, then I’d move the bump toward the middle (favoring the top) of the phone for left-right symmetry, and then change the bump from a square to a circle and make it look almost like a big traditional camera lens (black) with smaller lenses inside the lens (somewhat hidden in the black). And I might still raise the top and bottom edges of the phone so that it can lie flat on a surface and keep the lenses from touching, but raise them in a cool way. (It would be much easier to communicate what I’m envisioning in drawings, but who has time for that...)
Point being, I wish they did something with the bump. It looks like no effort was made.
 
I like the look of it. At least Apple made the camera housing match the colour of the phone unlike the leaks I have seen of the Pixel 4 camera housing.
 
Shot on iPhone*
*additional equipment may have been used
https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1171490002917715971

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For 2020, Apple really needs to return to a flat edge design (like the 5S). The rounded edges add so much bezel on top of the actual screen bezel.
it looks like it has one of those bumper on......To each its own.......
 
Genuinely excited to get an 11 pro.

Question:

The lenses are referenced as having focal lengths of 13, 26, and 52mm. What is this measurement in relation to? Are they referencing a 35mm film lens equivalent? If so, isn't 13mm crazy wide? Would there not be significant distortion?
 
3x the camera bump. 3x the ugliness.

Put a nice case on it and problem solved. 1000’s of cases on market. People walk around outside with smartphones unlike laptops so a case would be very helpful to have. A nice carbon fiber or Kevlar one will help resolve the back camera bump issue. Even all the digital cameras on the market have some sort of bump on them. The better the lenses the bigger the bump. ;)
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The Pro should be USB C maybe next year
Good old Apple always a few years behind to catch up with some things. Really fast processor with a huge bottleneck at connectivity end. They only need to add 1 USB C port so it is not like they need to add 4 Thunderbolt ports to it. Over $1K for it with a top of the line processor and an unfortunate snail paced lightning port connected to it :(
 
Were there any clarifications on the mentioned video stabilization update? If it's anything as magical as the latest gopros and osmo action I'm definitely getting one of these.
 
Doesn’t bother me the bump always disappears in the Apple leather cases

Except the bump won't disappear this year. The bump is now 2 tiers. There is a bump for the camera housing and then the lenses protrude from the camera housing. Meaning the Apple leather case will be flush with the housing bump but then the lenses will protrude beyond that. If you lay the phone on the table with an Apple leather case, it will no longer sit flat on the table.

I don't see any other way except to make a much thicker case. With the thin leather case, if they made the case level with the camera lens, then there would be a gap between the case and the housing bump, right?
 
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you’re probably wrong about that. The quality is by far good enough for decently sized prints. Unless you produce large posters on a regular basis, the difference between this and a DSLR or mirrorless camera will be close to unrecognizable. Throw in a couple of clip-on lenses and also add the same kind of flexibility. The only thing you’ll have to consider is if you’re ok with the camera’s processing power and software post-prod is something you can live with or whether you prefer that the image quality comes out of the optics and sensor of a camera, as is the case with regular cameras.
Maybe I'm wrong. I've never had the opportunity to use a DSLR or other very high-end camera equipment.
for me, only the picture counts.
For me, 85-90% true.
 
And the naming gets weirder. What is it called next year? 11RS and 11 Pro S and 11 Pro Max S?

If Apple has any sense at all, it'll be called the 12. Followed by the 13 the year after. It's time to be done with the "S" crap.
 
Maybe it looks a tad unsightly but then I don’t remember the last time I spent any amount of time looking at the back of my phone.

I was actually going to say the same thing. I pretty much never look at the back - who cares what it looks like?

I am much more focused on battery life, screen, notch, RAM, Qualcomm vs Intel etc.

I think Apple delivered a great set of phones. Wish they would have killed the notch and added Qualcomm but they aren’t deal breakers (QC may be if the Intel modems aren’t improved).
 
What if the cameras were flush and we had a battery that couldn’t be exhausted in a weekend...

If Steve Jobs were here I’m almost sure that’s what we would have. Steve didn’t sacrifice design for function, it isn’t hyperbole to say that he’d never release the design of the 11. Because he would not! Just look at it, no, a square bump added to the corner like that would never fly with his eye and focus towards clean premium design. This looks like a cheap afterthought and a way to save money by keeping the housing relatively unchanged.
 
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