Replace the battery. It's far cheaper and will breathe new life into your older phone. I'm still on my 6S with a new battery last December, and I am on the fence about upgrading this year. I still prefer having the headphone jack (which I do use), and I like TouchID better than FaceID. If I wait though, I think I'll have to upgrade next year regardless.
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Replace the battery. It's far cheaper and will breathe new life into your older phone. I'm still on my 6S with a new battery last December, and I am on the fence about upgrading this year. I still prefer having the headphone jack (which I do use), and I like TouchID better than FaceID. If I wait though, I think I'll have to upgrade next year regardless.
I don't think the BIG unknown is the new 2019 iPhones.
Its what will Apple offer wrt its older iPhones.
I believe the 1st-Gen XR, XS, & XS Max will ALL be discontinued on Sept 10th.
The XR for obvious reasons; just like the X, Apple didn't put enough DRAM into it for App Devs to do much with it !
I suspect the 7 & 7+ will be dropped.
Ideally, Apple would have learned from their mistakes, & would offer an 8s & 8s+ next month, each with an A13, & each with an additional GB of DRAM.
As many of you know, but NOT ALL, iOS consumes more & more of the Available DRAM with each major update ... it now easily consumes 1/3 more than it used to just a few years ago ... since Apps get to use ONLY what's left over, the situation is now Dire for High-Perf apps in the iOS ecosystem.
DRAM is by-far the most-important factor that is UNDER the Radar of most, but should NOT be !
The Pixel 4 will be a MAJOR wake-up call to Apple's Upper Mgmt, none of which have any hands-out Software Development experience ! ... that goes for Apple's Board as well !!
It is the very definition of the blind leading the blind !
Its what will Apple offer wrt its older iPhones.
I believe the 1st-Gen XR, XS, & XS Max will ALL be discontinued on Sept 10th.
The XR for obvious reasons; just like the X, Apple didn't put enough DRAM into it for App Devs to do much with it !
I suspect the 7 & 7+ will be dropped.
Ideally, Apple would have learned from their mistakes, & would offer an 8s & 8s+ next month, each with an A13, & each with an additional GB of DRAM.
As many of you know, but NOT ALL, iOS consumes more & more of the Available DRAM with each major update ... it now easily consumes 1/3 more than it used to just a few years ago ... since Apps get to use ONLY what's left over, the situation is now Dire for High-Perf apps in the iOS ecosystem.
DRAM is by-far the most-important factor that is UNDER the Radar of most, but should NOT be !
The Pixel 4 will be a MAJOR wake-up call to Apple's Upper Mgmt, none of which have any hands-out Software Development experience ! ... that goes for Apple's Board as well !!
It is the very definition of the blind leading the blind !
It is the worst because I am comparing it to all the iPhones I have ever had for years. I live in a major Metro Area with good phone reception but I use WiFi 95% of the time and rarely use mobile data.
My battery lasts only about 16 hrs a day, the phone is dead when I make it home around 7:00 p.m. I do not play games in it, I don't have Apple Music or any equivalent, although I do check my email frequently and occasionally watch a video. Things I have done with my phone with no problem in the past.
So every year for 10 years you’ve been happy to upgradeI've had every new iPhone every year since the iPhone 3G existed. This is the first time I don't feel the need to upgrade. My Xs is almost perfect. Waiting for the next big iPhone change.
now this year, before the new iPhone is even announced, you’re no longer going to upgrade?
Mmmm
If you keep your device for 2 years. You would have had free loan and about $400 trade in value
You didn’t take advantage of the battery replacement program? I did, and will hold out for 2020 with my 7 Plus.
To get a phone with more than 64 GB, and a bigger screen than the XS, it costs 56% more in the US to get the XS Max than the XR. The XS doesn’t count because it displays much less information on-screen as compared to the XR and XS Max. (The XR and XS Max show the same amount of information.)I don't really like the XR. Too many compromises and price difference is not that huge. So either full on phone or wait another year.
One year for you, sure, but the tech in your iPhone SE, like the chip in the iPhone 6S, will be 5 years old when these are announced. If the past pattern holds, the 6S/6SPlus/SE will probably not support iOS14. But maybe they'll have an SE2 or a similar small phone by then.
If that's the only thing pushing you towards a $1000 phone, remember that you can get a new battery installed at the Apple Store for like $50 and it will make your iPhone 7 run like it did when new. But you knew that already, right?
I'm going to try to hang on to my iPhone Xs as long as I can stand it. I like it a lot and there's nothing wrong with it. Maybe there's a new feature coming along that I just gotta have, but that's looking pretty unlikely. And that's OK.
It's not for the new features of iOS 13. I always run the most up to date version and to my knowledge they no longer update the older ones. I want all the security patches that come with each update. Correct me if I'm wrong and they'll continue to update iOS 12. The main point I was making is that if they only released updates every two years, they would need to adjust prices downward in the interim...not very Apple-like.
Also, sometime around the beginning of this year my 6 started running pretty slowly. And I'm dealing with issues keeping a lighting cable connected to the port. 5 years is a pretty good run, so I'm ready. I enjoyed upgrading every two years when it was only $299 (2nd tier of Storage) with a ~$215 trade in of the previous model. But with the disappearance of subsidies and the annual increase in starting price bringing new models up to $750, I haven't been in a rush. If they would learn a lesson from Samsung's release of the 10e or whatever they just released that's a new phone with current specs, but not all the bells and whistles, I would buy something like that. I don't like the idea of buying years old models as the only way to save money.
I'm not sure that's correct ... the scaling is different, and the Xr has fewer pixels, but the amount of information is the same between the Xs and Xs Mac.
The Xr screen is noticeably inferior to the OLED screens of the Xs. Colors don't pop and edges aren't as crisp. It's nice on its own but not when compared side by side.
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Nobody should be buying old stuff.
- For the 2017 phones, that was the iPhone 8, which was like 25% less than the X. Same computer chip inside, lesser screen and camera.
- For 2018, that was the Xr, which was cheaper than the Xs and a lot less than the Max. Same computer chip inside, lesser screen and camera.
Totally agree with your comments about security patches. It seems like app support generally respects reality and lets people run older versions of the OS to a point. 5 years is a very good run for a phone in my opinion. Maybe they can stretch it longer and make up the difference in revenue with services?
The XR and XS Max show the EXACT same amount of display points on screen. However, the XR does it with a 2X multiplier, while the XS Max does it with a 3X multiplier.
Both the XR and the XS Max show 22% more display points than the XS. Also, both feature Zoomed Display mode but the XS does not.
tl;dr:
The XS shows a lot LESS information on screen than the XR.
Agree. Although you may want to check out the secondary market next year (unless you're gong to pass it down to a family member) - next year might be the best time to sell it and use the money to get 5G, TouchID (hopefully).
I'm not a fan of post like these. Its frankly ridiculous. Comparing XR to XS plus saying its the same amount of information is just funny. Sure, on technical level but you are comparing already quite big phone to a phablet. So being nitpicky about technical details and forgetting the elephant in the room - actual physical size to me is a bit funny.
So I'm sorry but your post is just hilarious.
Anyway, thank you for the fun on friday afternoon (all good though, no malicious intent here)
So I'm sorry but your post is just hilarious.
Anyway, thank you for the fun on friday afternoon
(all good though, no malicious intent here) 
Nope, it has nothing to do with how I personally buy them. Like I said, I’ve had every model since the 3GS, and have been happy to do so. I’m just thinking out loud from a purely “INNOVATION!” perspective. Me and my wallet don’t personally care how often they release them, it just feels a bit stale is all, and it would be nice to have something more than “better camera, faster processor”, and if they slowed the releases down they might achieve this.
Alternatively, “just add more” yearly lol, but that feels greedy and unrealistic.
We should have a sticky for this. I didn't upgrade to the X from my 7+ back in the day because the screen felt small. I use Safari a lot so it didn't seem worth it to lose so much screen real estate.
I'm very happy with my XR.
Friday the 13th for pre-orders...??
Oh, this is gonna be good!!!
Oh, this is gonna be good!!!
Scary low pre orders.Friday the 13th for pre-orders...??
Oh, this is gonna be good!!!
Technology is a continuous iteration. If a better camera and faster processor are available, why should the consumers be stuck with 2 year old tech because you think it's stale not to have another wow feature as well. For the person who didn't buy last year's phone they're getting last year's wow feature as well as the best camera and processor available. Why hold them back until there's something to wow jsmith189 personally.
Just reading this forum, there's plenty of people on a 7 or 8 who never bought the Xs generation looking to buy when the "11" drops.
And outside Apple, virtually every company selling every kind of product updates their models as technology evolves. It's continuous updates all along. I bought an AV Receiver last year. The only real advantage the 2018 model had over 2017 was adding Airplay 2. The only difference the recently announced 2019 model has is the latest version of HDMI to do 120Hz 4k. These are minuscule updates so perhaps we should be on the 2015 model until something major like 8k. But the reality is tech evolves slowly and everything stays pretty much up to date.
If Apple continues selling their 2018 iPhone into fall of 2020, those Spring 2020 Samsung phones are going to look pretty sweet by comparison. Your idea will definitely drive people away from Apple.
Well, I don't think you are 100% correct. I understand your point but look at computer line - Mac Pro, iMac etc.
New tech is often available but Apple doesn't update it. Mac Pro went for year before the new one got unveiled even though the tech was available for ages. Sure, they pushed the envelope but isn't that precisely what the other person is trying to say?
New tech is often available but Apple does nothing. Why is that?
I would rather have 2 year cycle with more substantial upgrades then this. X vs XS = literally no difference.
Lets see what 11 will give us