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Meanwhile, I keep using my iPhone SE 2016 or iPhone 4S — and contemplate eventually “upgrading” to an iPod Touch — to have something that I can fully and comfortably use with one hand and that fits neatly in my pocket. My iPhone X sits in the closet, only taken out when I want to take a special photo, and will be replaced once I buy a proper digital camera.
Why haven’t you replaced your iPhone X with the 12 Mini? Smaller, lighter, takes better photos.
 
A few grams more isn’t going to break your arms. Engineering is always a compromise.
It’s not a matter of muscle but nerve pain for some of us. Oddly enough the 12 Pro was too heavy for me to hold comfortably and caused me nerve pain because of the weight it put on my pinky finger to steady it. I switched to the 12 Pro Max just to see what would happen and I’m able to hold it steady differently and take the weight and pain off that “pinky shelf”.
 
Just make the phone thicker and put a bigger battery in. Lets get back to the XR/11 battery life and not the 12. Also at the rate apple is going, pretty soon the whole back will be a camera cutout.
 
No bump please!! If you really need to stick a reflex camera inside for marketing reasons, then just make the iPhone thicker, but no more bumps. Not being able to put the phone laying horizontally on a desk is really uncomfortable. The bump and the wrong position for the off button are the only two things I dislike from my iPhone 12, and I haven't got used to them until all these months. If they release a bump-less S model, I'll consider it with better design than the premium range, and I'll likely choose it instead in the future.
 
I'm an engineer and spend a lot of time using a scientific calculator app with my iPhone 6s lying flat on the table as I tap on it all day doing calculations. I'm thinking of upgrading to the 13 this year, but that enormous bump (compared with the 6s anyway) makes me wonder if the phone is going to wobble like crazy on the table as I tap away on the calculator buttons. I just can't imagine that bump being any good...
 
I'm an engineer and spend a lot of time using a scientific calculator app with my iPhone 6s lying flat on the table as I tap on it all day doing calculations. I'm thinking of upgrading to the 13 this year, but that enormous bump (compared with the 6s anyway) makes me wonder if the phone is going to wobble like crazy on the table as I tap away on the calculator buttons. I just can't imagine that bump being any good...
Precisely. The bump in the 12 makes it very uncomfortable for that use. The iPhone 5 is the best design ever made, design-wise, performance-wise, everything-wise. Everything after the 5 has become worse and worse.
 
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I'm an engineer and spend a lot of time using a scientific calculator app with my iPhone 6s lying flat on the table as I tap on it all day doing calculations. I'm thinking of upgrading to the 13 this year, but that enormous bump (compared with the 6s anyway) makes me wonder if the phone is going to wobble like crazy on the table as I tap away on the calculator buttons. I just can't imagine that bump being any good...
By a cover that levels it out. As a mechanical engineer I spent a nanosecond on the idea.
 
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why? if you really cared you wouldn't buy a new phone every year.
Why? Because a company that no longer wants to include power adapters in the box, and prides itself in their phones being supported by the latest iOS for 5+ years, both for environmental reasons, would also recognize that the cases they make become obsolete. I cannot recall a time after introducing a new form factor, the next “S” cycle of the phone requiring a new case.

The person I replied to said they upgrade every year, not me. Most people will keep their phones for years, but of course they’re in the business to try and entice people to upgrade with the latest must-have feature. At least personally, I am ok with buying used or refurbished electronics. Used phone cases and battery cases, not so much.
 
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By a cover that levels it out. As a mechanical engineer I spent a nanosecond on the idea.
I did exactly that to overcome my 6s's comparatively small bump, but with recent models this is just getting out of hand. I'm in the camp that would prefer a thicker but flat phone and have all available internal space consumed by a bigger battery. I know people will say that makes the phone heavier, but the real weight difference is between that of a thicker phone vs a thinner bumped phone plus a cover. I know people have different points of view, I'm just stating mine. It's certainly clear plenty of others just don't care about the bump.
 
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Why? Because a company that no longer wants to include power adapters in the box, and prides itself in their phones being supported by the latest iOS for 5+ years, both for environmental reasons, would also recognize that the cases they make become obsolete.

The person I replied to said they upgrade every year, I never said I did. Most people will keep their phones for years, but of course they’re in the business to try and entice people to upgrade with the latest must-have feature. At least personally, I am ok with buying used or refurbished electronics. Used phone cases and battery cases, not so much.
Ok, so the person you replied to - who upgrades every year - seems to be the problem here, not apple. Nobody is forcing that person to buy a new phone and thus a new case.

p.s.: people who put cases on their phones are silly. Never used on on my iphone, and never had a problem,
 
I wish they would make an iPhone model with a basic camera and no bump for people like me who don’t use the camera.
 
Meanwhile, I keep using my iPhone SE 2016 or iPhone 4S — and contemplate eventually “upgrading” to an iPod Touch — to have something that I can fully and comfortably use with one hand and that fits neatly in my pocket. My iPhone X sits in the closet, only taken out when I want to take a special photo, and will be replaced once I buy a proper digital camera.
If you're upgrading to an iPod Touch, that means you don't even need a phone. :D
 
If it means larger battery, that's good. However, one cannot cheat physics. Larger battery means heavier phone, and Apple would need to use a new material since the stainless steel is preventing Apple to go larger without adding too much on weight.

This is why I'm actually happy that Android phones are embracing plastic again. So they can have huge battery while maintaining reasonable weight. And plastic doesn't mean cheap feeling. The Galaxy S21 back feels as premium as its Plus and Ultra counterparts.

Maybe it's time Apple use titanium.
 
This is dumb as heck. The camera array can't get bigger, cos it's right on the edge now of what fits a Qi charger.

So unless they are cancelling Qi and going Magsafe-only, or they move the coil from the middle, no, this isn't happening.
 
Ugh. No. As someone who updates every year, I wanted to get at least another year out of my phone cases. These yearly physical changes are all too convenient for these accessory makers. 😒

Convenient how? Having a crazy backstock of accessories that aren't going to sell anymore ever?
 
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