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Unless you balance your phone's back on your fingertips, the sides are what dictate how slippery the iPhone feels. The back of the phone rarely touches the palm of my hand.

As you just said, the flat sides provide a better grip, and you don't have to grip the flat sides as tightly which improves ergonomics.
No, your fingers and palm grab and touch the back of the iPhone 99% of the time. The matte glass is slippery, the smooth glass is grippy.

The back glass being smooth and grippy is far far better to grip and not drop the device. You erroneously think that the device rests in the palm. No, that’s not how phones are held you place fingers across the back, in particular, your index finger for grip and stabilization.

Also, and highly importantly, when you pull your phone out of your pocket all of your fingers grab the back of the device to pull it up and out, and smooth grippy glass allows those fingers to grip it much much much better than the slippery matte glass.

Flat sides do offer better grip only because they dig into your hands.

And no, that is factually untrue that it ‘improves ergonomics because you don’t have to grip it as tightly’. That’s one of the most false and hilarious statements I’ve ever read on here. The square edges dig into a user’s hands and they are pathetically bad for ergonomics. There is no ‘lighter’ grip lmao. It’s horrible ergonomics and feels terrible held in your hands.

Go purchase a squared off steering wheel, you won’t have to grip it as tightly so it will be better ergonomics. LOL. This is sarcasm by the way.
 
The curved screen will keep the case better in position.

With the 12-14 form factor, the silent switch is accidentally toggled all the time due to the case not staying in position.
 
I sort of don’t believe (or don’t want to believe) this rumor because I’m thinking this will be Samsung-like and I didn’t like Samsung phones that had that “feature“ and I don’t think Apple would copy them.
 
No, your fingers and palm grab and touch the back of the iPhone 99% of the time. The matte glass is slippery, the smooth glass is grippy...
Due to the shape of the human hand, my palm touches the back of my phone so infrequently that its material has zero affect on how slippery the phone feels. The shape and material of the sides affects that almost 100%.
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Lighter Pro models would be nice. Two way satellite messaging, usb-c, under screen touchid,etc needed.
 
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If they do go back to a curved frame, I wish Apple would bring back an oem bumper-style case. Those were perfect for my 4, 5, and 6.

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It seems like Apple is making their previous designs cyclical or seasonal. The rumors of the iPhone 15 sound like its going back to iPhone X, while the iPhone 12 - 14 is similar in design to iPhone 5/5s.
 
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Just remove that damn dynamic notch island already!!
The Dynamic Island in 14 Pro was a taste of the 15-16-17 generation, where it will be present in both regular and Pro iPhones 15, 16, and 17.

The best we're going to get is a gradual reduction of its size from year to year. Or just improvements to FaceID while keeping it about the same size.

However, considering that Apple kept original iPhone X notch for 5 years with next to no changes, something tells me that the Dynamic Island might see no significant changes for more than 3 years.

Shifting to new display and FaceID tech every single year is unprecedented for iPhones.
 
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There’s a problem with this.


When you write on something tell us what you do. Think about it.
You'll be surprised how often I mistakenly take my Apple pencil off my iPad and try to quickly select something on my iPhone… It would be a convenience for me, but by no means a must.
 
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Due to the shape of the human hand, my palm touches the back of my phone so infrequently that its material has zero affect on how slippery the phone feels. The shape and material of the sides affects that almost 100%.
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Factually untrue. The human index finger presses against the rear of smartphones 98% of the time.

Every single time a smartphone is pulled out of a pocket the human’s fingers grasp ahold of the back glass to pull it out.

When holding the phone to your ear you place your index finger directly against the back glass.

It is anatomically unnatural to hold the phone cupping it and grabbing just the edges.

When you’re holding the phone using it with one hand your index finger and part of the middle finger are grasping the back.

When you’re holding it with both hands typing with your thumbs, multiple fingers are holding the back of the phone as it rests on them.

Facts are what we want, but your fictional and blatantly incorrect view on reality.
 
You'll be surprised how often I mistakenly take my Apple pencil off my iPad and try to quickly select something on my iPhone… It would be a convenience for me, but by no means a must.
Well when we write things with pencils, pens, markers, etc., we like to place our pinky finger down, on the surface to stabilize our writing or drawing.

You cannot do that when the device is too small for your hand to rest down on it.

Humans do not like to hover their hands as they write or draw. This is why it simply isn’t very viable for a smartphone.

Imagine you’re holding your smartphone in your hand and attempting to write or draw on it; it’s just not a good idea.
 
Yeah I hate curved glass screens. The screen protectors always peel up at the edges.
Don’t use a screen protector; they make your device look absolutely hideous and feel worse too.

The glass is very durable, whereas your plastic screen protector is plastic which scratches easily… if you have a glass screen protector it increases the weight and device thickness, and it also isn’t as scratch-resistant as Apple’s glass.

I wouldn’t dream of ever using a screen protector, you just use your device normally and you’ll only ever see minute scratches if you hold your phone in certain, specific light, actively looking for scratches.
 
Factually untrue. The human index finger presses against the rear of smartphones 98% of the time.
This is a big issue for people who hold their phones with only one finger.
Every single time a smartphone is pulled out of a pocket the human’s fingers grasp ahold of the back glass to pull it out.
An issue if you remove it form your pocket with only your fingers pressed against the back.
When holding the phone to your ear you place your index finger directly against the back glass.
An issue if you hold it with only one finger.
It is anatomically unnatural to hold the phone cupping it and grabbing just the edges.
To quote you "Factually untrue".
When you’re holding the phone using it with one hand your index finger and part of the middle finger are grasping the back.
If you hold it in the least secure way, no material or design changes will help you.
When you’re holding it with both hands typing with your thumbs, multiple fingers are holding the back of the phone as it rests on them.
If you cant securely hold a phone with two hands, no material or design changes will help you.

Maybe you should consider a pop socket case.
 
Lots of opinions for and against the rumored rounded bezels. At least we can all agree we need more dynamic island right? I’m thinking at least one along each edge and then a big one in the center. The back? Just one big dynamic continent.
 
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Why is everyone talking about curved edges like the 6-11 iPhones?

This is talking about curved bezels the sides will still be flat.
 
This is a big issue for people who hold their phones with only one finger.

An issue if you remove it form your pocket with only your fingers pressed against the back.

An issue if you hold it with only one finger.

To quote you "Factually untrue".

If you hold it in the least secure way, no material or design changes will help you.

If you cant securely hold a phone with two hands, no material or design changes will help you.

Maybe you should consider a pop socket case.
Yeah your arguments are all embarrassing lol

Grip is what keeps people from dropping their phones. You don’t even know how humans hold phones…you’re literally stating things you don’t even do. LOL. Like you don’t place your hands on the back of the phone. It’s hilarious you don’t even know how you yourself holds it. Lmao.

Hint: back when the iPhones had aluminum back, the phone was basically a super slippery bar of soap.

Welcome back to reality and ergonomics, hopefully you learned things today.
 
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Why is everyone talking about curved edges like the 6-11 iPhones?

This is talking about curved bezels the sides will still be flat.
I’d pay to see a drawing of what you think the design will look like based on the rumors lol.

Curved bezels huh? Into a flat side huh? So basically you believe that the front and back glass will have the 2.5D beveled bezels like on the iPhone X-11, and that will go straight into a flat squared off side instead of the seamless rounding of the iPhone X-11.

Basically you think that the metal sides will be completely flat but only the glass will curve. I’d pay to see you draw that.

This rumor compares it to the Apple Watch Series 8; you know that has rounded sides right?
 
I don’t use a case and therefore I can tell you that both the look, and the feel, and the GRIP are all VERY important.

When Apple moronically went to the matte glass the back of the iPhone became far far more slippery. Smooth glass is grippy, matte glass is slippery as fk. That was incredibly stupid.

It was also incredibly stupid switching to square edges from the seamless and ergonomic rounded edges. The devices felt far more comfortable in the hand with rounded edges (obviously).

If they switch to matte bands I’ll die laughing for their stupidity. That absolute MORON MKPHD has stupidly said he wants matte edges. I don’t know why that man is so incredibly stupid but matte = slippery. You need GRIP in the material design.

All these incredibly incredibly stupid humans complain about smudges and scratches but they put their phone in a case…… how could they possibly be that stupid?
Most comfortable device in the hand was iPhone 4. Fight me.
 
Most comfortable device in the hand was iPhone 4. Fight me.
Objectively untrue. A human hand is ergonomically matched with a rounded edge.

It literally doesn’t matter what you say, reality disagrees.

Next thing you’ll tell us that a square broom handle is more comfortable, a squared off steering wheel. Holding a toy block is more comfortable than holding a ball. I wonder why a bicycle’s handles are rounded and not square pegs. Hmmm
 
Factually untrue. The human index finger presses against the rear of smartphones 98% of the time.

Every single time a smartphone is pulled out of a pocket the human’s fingers grasp ahold of the back glass to pull it out.

When holding the phone to your ear you place your index finger directly against the back glass.

It is anatomically unnatural to hold the phone cupping it and grabbing just the edges.

When you’re holding the phone using it with one hand your index finger and part of the middle finger are grasping the back.

When you’re holding it with both hands typing with your thumbs, multiple fingers are holding the back of the phone as it rests on them.

Facts are what we want, but your fictional and blatantly incorrect view on reality.
I find that I mostly grasp my phones along the edge. I do add my index finger against the back when typing but otherwise it is mostly edge. We probably all use slightly different grips so don’t get too bothered when someone holds theirs different.
 
I find that I mostly grasp my phones along the edge. I do add my index finger against the back when typing but otherwise it is mostly edge. We probably all use slightly different grips so don’t get too bothered when someone holds theirs different.
People constantly and perpetually touch the back of phones, it’s why everyone cried about smudges. Hehe

Unfortunately the smooth glass back was astronomically more grippy than the garbage hideous matte backs.
 
The curved corners are still horrible. A display should always be rectangular, because most content is rectangular. A curved corner throws away pixels. That strange idea came many years ago, when some smartphone makers were proud that they can built displays that are not rectangular. The result are rounded corners, nodges, circular holes and "dynamic islands". Is it too much to ask that every row of a display has the same number of pixels?
not all content is rectangular.
time is circular, because time is endless - btw thats why aw is not a watch - its an iphone mini mini.
 
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