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The reality is that Apple have lost their traditional 2 year advantage in single core CPU performance over Snapdragon etc. These new SD Elite chips really are a significant jump in performance for new Android flagships, and should be used in Tablets also.
The only thing I would say is: Apple lost their traditional 2 year advantage in multicore today . You can’t predict the future. Apple doesn’t need to have the fastest chip in phones imo. Fast enough and efficient enough for sure. Put the m chips in iPads.
 
Emberrassing! Apple always claims how many light years ahead their chips and software are, that’s what we pay the premium for.
Embarassing is that in such expensive phone Apple uses memory that is half speed of Samsungs as showed up in one test i saw earlier. It is not only aspect influencing the speed of course but not marginal I guess.
It is not good for Apple marketing even most users will not be dealing with speed as phones are very fast. I will return to that in another post yet.
 
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I use Android. I'm faster on Android, even a $300 Android phone, than an iPhone doing the same things and each minute I'm in front of a phone I feel my life bleeding away. The iPhone always requires me to use 2 hands where Android, at least with Samsung's OneUI, I can do a lot of things using the phone in a single hand.
I've got a 16 Pro Max and a S24+ and for some reason, I can type so much more accurately on the S24+ than the 16 Pro Max. I'm constantly mistyping on my iPhone (or it's autocorrecting what I do type to unrelated words) but not so much on Android.
 
Good. Hope this causes Apple to improve and optimize iOS. It's been largely neglected in the stability and performance front after iOS 12.
Nobody asks for this, iOS runs smooth, cooler, with smaller batteries and less lag. It is true that was dethroned in this test but the results aren't that impressive, this impacts 0% on daily users and it provides other features at the same time that users cherish other than maximum raw speed.
 
And yet, if the iPhone had somehow managed to be faster the comments would all probably be "Haha, look at how slow the Samsung flagship is...", "We all know that Apple's combo of hardware and software is what destroys the competition...", etc etc etc.

I'm an Apple user since the Mac Classic days but I'm afraid to say that Apple users have become the sorest of losers as demonstrated time and again over the years.
Agreed. Love Apple but its super fan user base is toxic. They hate competition, complain about other companies copying Apple and it’s “never been the same since Steve left”. The culture feels like a bunch of toddlers in my humble opinion.
 
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iPhone even hit 79 % at the end.....
They started both at 100%, but we don't see the previous tests, they only show this specific test out of many. That implies that the Samsung is draining faster and there is also something iffy about repeating the tests so often and only show this result!
 
They have a common thread in that they were discontinued but getting updates.
That also shows that Apple isn’t treating the HomePod and the AVP as very important, as you stated, as they stop producing it without an update inside. HomePod is closed, but AVP is able to play third party apps. As an developer I wouldn’t put much effort in it as a product already has been out of production. So how is this product so important to Apple?
 
Embarassing is that in such expensive phone Apple uses memory that is half speed of Samsungs as showed up in one test i saw earlier.
iPhone users don’t care, imo. Apple customers en masse aren’t jumping to Samsung because an app is opened faster, imo. Who is it embarrassing to? I don’t think Apple is embarrassed. Shareholders? Maybe one or two? The board? Customers?
It is not only aspect influencing the speed of course but not marginal I guess.
It is not good for Apple marketing even most users will not be dealing with speed as phones are very fast. I will return to that in another post yet.
Apple marketing doesn’t care about these speed tests. It’s not going to be very many that alter a purchase decision breeding a speed test.
 
That also shows that Apple isn’t treating the HomePod and the AVP as very important, as you stated, as they stop producing it without an update inside.
HomePod has an update to its hardware.
HomePod is closed, but AVP is able to pay third party apps. As a developer I wouldn’t put much effort in it as a product already has been out of production. So how is this product so important to Apple?
AVP purportedly has an update to its hardware. “As a developer” I don’t know what developers will think of the soon to be new AVP. Do you?
 
They started both at 100%, but we don't see the previous tests, they only show this specific test out of many. That implies that the Samsung is draining faster and there is also something iffy about repeating the tests so often and only show this result!
Samsung has always told the truth about its benchmarks and never cheated, right?
 
You have to remember the Galaxy S25 Ultra does have a 16 GB RAM model. That makes a huge difference compared to the 8 GB of RAM the iPhone 16 Pro Max has. I expect both the iPhone 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max to go to 12 GB of RAM later this year, and given how efficient the iPhone uses RAM, it will likely match the Galaxy S25 Ultra score.
 
The only thing I would say is: Apple lost their traditional 2 year advantage in multicore today . You can’t predict the future. Apple doesn’t need to have the fastest chip in phones imo. Fast enough and efficient enough for sure. Put the m chips in iPads.
Not multicore, but single core which is very important. Android flagships generally have always had slightly better multicore performance because they usually have 8 cores, compared to the iPhones 6 cores. But now they are about on Par in terms of single core scores. This is actually a good thing, competition is always good for consumers.
 
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Nobody asks for this, iOS runs smooth, cooler, with smaller batteries and less lag. It is true that was dethroned in this test but the results aren't that impressive, this impacts 0% on daily users and it provides other features at the same time that users cherish other than maximum raw speed.
I think you haven’t tried the latest Androids. They are butter smooth for a couple of years now. The UI is almost the same. Animations are user adjustable and most people find the animations on iPhone to slow what gives a feeling of sluggishness.

 
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There are so many variables, that this test does not make sense. And who the hell cares about this stuff?! There are much more important things in life then to care about app loading speed.
Whaaa? This seems like it is actually the practical use of the device instead of some random processor crunch test.
 
Back in the PowerBook G4 days when Macs were trouncing PC laptops the Windows guys did the same thing.

They couldn’t win on the CPU side. They couldn’t win on the hardware design. They couldn’t win on a well designed stable OS either.

So they came on Mac forums showing how many apps they could launch at the same time.

They said Photoshop and Office launched faster on Windows than Mac OS X.

They were right. Apps launched faster on Windows. Sometimes they still do today.

But if all you have is fast app launches and everything else is worse, from the processor to system security, then you aren’t winning.

You’re coping.
 
AVP purportedly has an update to its hardware. “As a developer” I don’t know what developers will think of the soon to be new AVP. Do you?
You said to that Apple treated the AVP as a very important product. My response was that if the AVP is a very important product to Apple then why is it already out of production.
 
A lot of comments on the internet suddenly make sense when you realise that there are a lot of literal children using it. Sometimes I just ask myself “Could I imagine a 12 year old saying this?” And move on.
That was one part of the entire comment buddy. Funny though thought the same in your comment. Moving on.
 
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