iPhone 5 Javascript Benchmarks Over Twice as Fast

[Jimrod]

This concerns me from one of the reviews, I've used black anodised aluminium products and was hoping Apple had used a different kind of process as this is always a problem:

"It is now chamfered and while that looks pretty, we've already noticed that on the black model the edge has started to wear, revealing the shiny silver aluminium metal underneath the "slate" coloured coating and, indeed, we've witnessed it on two separate models, ruling out a fluke manufacturing error."

Starting to wish I'd ordered white as the thing has barely been in use five minutes to exhibit any kind of wear!

 

[tech4all]

I bet you a few Android lovers saw the the score and thought that iPhone 5 was the lowest score before reading the article and was like OH YERRRR SUCK ON THAT APPLE!! haha

And I bet you plenty of iPhone users will look at the iPhone 5 and say wow this is so much better than the iPhone 4S. Why? I dunno...

Widgets: Pointless, like you said.

Pointless? Let's see having instant access to information such as weather, sport scores, text messages, email, social networking updates, news, and more. Yea you could just tap an app to get that info, but you could also snail mail a letter as opposed to email (extreme example I realize). But let's face it email is way faster.

Not exactly "pointless."

 

[EeZeEpEe]

just switch carriers couple months ago and got the SG3 cause i wanted an ip5 and it wasnt out yet so i decided to give android a fair shot while waiting. my thoughts on widgets are whats the point. i have an ebay widget i have to click to see, an app can do that. a myVerizon widget that i have to click to view usage and then it only shows me what i check the last time i clicked. so what i already knew that number. facebook widget, never up to date on post, flashlight widget works just like an app icon. just dont see the big advantage of having widgets. im sure there are some that are useful just none for me. CAN'T WAIT FOR FRIDAY'S DELIVERY

Yeah you definitely didn't try some of the more useful widgets like a calendar, agenda, tasks, Evernote, Beautiful Widget (Best clock/weather on the market).

 

[BluePhoenixRa]

Big LOL at Android fanboys who say everything about specs and nothing about actual performance.

Just hope that my iPhone 5 gets here Friday instead of Monday!

"BUT BUT BUT QUAD CORE MAN! QUAD! BETTER THAN DOUBLE!!!" - Every Android person that claims a phone is slow simply cause it doesn't have Quad core.

Again. I don't mean every Android fans, only the spec-junkies.

 

[macosxuser01]

Benchmarks dont make it or break it, especially since the last article Macrumors wrote got debunked by users posting higher benchmarks than Macrumors posted in the Samsung SIII comparison, thereby beating the iPhone 5.

Wake me up when Apple has a clue about customization and then I'll consider using an iOS based device.

Can you just disappear from Macrumors. iPhone just pwn3d the S3. Stop hating. iPhone wins +1

 

[o0jelly0o]

You do realize that its individuals like YOURSELF that instigate these kinds of 'brand wars' in the forums? Do you find meaning in life by being having an Apple logo or other attached to your character?

You're talking about brand wars and you are clearly an Andriod fan on 'MacRumors' aka Apple forums. Seriously? You are here for one thing, and one thing only. Brand wars. Cause you're cool like that. Push up your glasses and get a life.

 

[enzos]

Just in time for 4G

This prob wouldn't have much effect on 3G but on 4G it could be very noticeable. We have LTE and high-fi voice whatever with Telstra in Oz; expect them to sell better than hotcakes! (Wish I could afford one ;(

 

[dethmaShine]

Benchmarks dont make it or break it, especially since the last article Macrumors wrote got debunked by users posting higher benchmarks than Macrumors posted in the Samsung SIII comparison, thereby beating the iPhone 5.

Wake me up when Apple has a clue about customization and then I'll consider using an iOS based device.

So usability, stability and speed don't make it or break but customization to actually put big clocks, live wallpapers and widgets does.

I get it.

 

[HangmanSwingset]

So, you'd rather turn a blind eye at the fact that Apple purposely limits even the slightest bit of customization? Do you oppose CHOICE?

Sounds more like you're the one that opposes choice. Some people like the iPhone interface, and I have enough problems picking a damn wallpaper (both on my iPhone and my laptop). I don't need to spend infinity freakin hours finding a theme that I deem usable. iOS is fine the way it is, and I only want minor tweaks (5 icon dock, free RAM in the status bar, Clockify [just for the clock icon], and WeatherIcon).

It's just a phone, after all.

 

[o0jelly0o]

This concerns me from one of the reviews, I've used black anodised aluminium products and was hoping Apple had used a different kind of process as this is always a problem:

"It is now chamfered and while that looks pretty, we've already noticed that on the black model the edge has started to wear, revealing the shiny silver aluminium metal underneath the "slate" coloured coating and, indeed, we've witnessed it on two separate models, ruling out a fluke manufacturing error."

Starting to wish I'd ordered white as the thing has barely been in use five minutes to exhibit any kind of wear!

I'm pretty sure the color is done with the metal, not painted on, I'm not sure how it would be that easy to ware. Unless you are just very careless there shouldn't be a problem (i.e. don't run your edges against a knife blade).

 

[The Robot Cow]

wow killer performance! i'll definitely be geting an iphone(something i thought i wouldn't say lol)!

 

[Dammit Cubs]

So all the spec whores will choose the iPhone 5 over the S Galaxy III right? Because they are spec-whores right?

Yeah because this should shut everyone up.

Outside of OS, I don't see how you can say Iphone is "catching up"

 

[macosxuser01]

You're talking about brand wars and you are clearly an Andriod fan on 'MacRumors' aka Apple forums. Seriously? You are here for one thing, and one thing only. Brand wars. Cause you're cool like that. Push up your glasses and get a life.

Hahahahaha so true. These guys think that Android is better then iOS but they don't get how efficient iPhones are over Android phones. I rather have 3GS over S3 because it's more efficient to use then any Android phone on the market. Please just stop before you keep embrassing your self lol

 

[hakime]

Well Javascript is very much a single threaded operation, so as such it is not the best benchmark to use when comparing cpu:s as it only uses one core of the cpu.

Which means that a dual core cpu would probably almost always beat a similar quad core cpu on a test like this, even if the quad core cpu is a little bit faster overall.

However, this also shows a little bit how meaningless quad core is in a mobile device. Many cores get their benefits when you are doing cpu intensive tasks that can be multithreaded, such as rendering, compressing video and similar. Many of the kind of operations you don't normally do on a mobile device. Two cores are probably better for these usage scenarios.

Which is why - I guess - the new Windows Phone 8 devices also run dual core.

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Widgets: Pointless, like you said.
Live tiles: The perfect middleground between widgets and just an icon.

Yes sure Javascript is not designed to test performance on multiple cores, but at least it shows how a single core is performing. In that regard, two powerful cores can outperform four less powerful cores even if the code is written to take advantage of all cores.

But I totally agree that four cores on smartphone and even on tablets are pure marketing. Android does not have a concurrent programming model that would allow developer to write once their applications and scale for any future hardware. Actually, iOS is better as Grand Central Dispatch allows just that and has been promoted by Apple to developers even before the iPhone had dual cores in order for them to write responsive multi-threaded apps. Any app written with GCD today will scale up automatically when cores are added since the programmer does not need to know the number of cores available. But even with that, I think that Apple made the good decision to re-achitecture its cores and keep two of them instead of going for four cores with a less advanced architecture.

Note to MacRumors: the results for the iPhone 4S reported by Anandtech are with iOS 5 but the iPhone 5 runs iOS 6. iOS 6 has significant improvements in the JavaScript engine and a 4S should give between 1700-1800 ms with iOS 6. The iPhone 5 with the A6 is still ~ two times faster. I think it would be better to mention it in the post.

 

[IndieGuy]

I doubt chrome on iOS would have the potential to optimise it into iOS as well as safari is. This is about factory fresh iPhone vs factory fresh other phones though so..

Chrome is terrible on my ipad. Safari blows it out of the water. Chrome simply is not optimized to run on Apple devices.

 

[Jimrod]

I'm pretty sure the color is done with the metal, not painted on, I'm not sure how it would be that easy to ware. Unless you are just very careless there shouldn't be a problem (i.e. don't run your edges against a knife blade).

Yeah, this is what I don't understand - if it's just anodised there will definitely be a problem with wear, if the colour is in the metal there should be no problem even with deep scratches. The review states the colour is in the metal but that bare aluminium is showing in worn areas already...

 

[driceman]

Do they have scores for laptops to get a feel for how fast mobile phones are?

My products aren't bogged down in too many apps or optimized or anything, but they have been in use for a while, so here are some real-world type comparisons:

My 2011 13" MacBook Pro got 205.9. It has 4 GB of RAM and a 2.4 GHz processor. Meanwhile, my iPad 2 got 1812.4 and my iPhone 4 got a 3613.2.

So yes, this phone beat my iPad 2. It's going to be one heck of a phone.

Edit: The MacBook was running the latest OS X Mountain Lion, the iPad 2 and iPhone 4 were both running iOS 5.

 

[neiltc13]

Why is Chrome for Android not included in this list?

It is MUCH faster than the stock Android browser.

 

[MythicFrost]

Chrome is terrible on my ipad. Safari blows it out of the water. Chrome simply is not optimized to run on Apple devices.

That's not Chrome's fault, it's the same as any third party browser. It's limited to using UIWebView which doesn't get access to the Nitro 2 Javascript engine.

 

[wikus]

Sounds more like you're the one that opposes choice. Some people like the iPhone interface, and I have enough problems picking a damn wallpaper (both on my iPhone and my laptop). I don't need to spend infinity freakin hours finding a theme that I deem usable. iOS is fine the way it is, and I only want minor tweaks (5 icon dock, free RAM in the status bar, Clockify [just for the clock icon], and WeatherIcon).

It's just a phone, after all.

So usability, stability and speed don't make it or break but customization to actually put big clocks, live wallpapers and widgets does.

I get it.

These are very primitive rebuttals. Have you read nothing I wrote in this thread?

Hahahahaha so true. These guys think that Android is better then iOS but they don't get how efficient iPhones are over Android phones. I rather have 3GS over S3 because it's more efficient to use then any Android phone on the market. Please just stop before you keep embrassing your self lol

Notice how no one, including me said which platform is better? Also notice how I've been consisten with my criticisms on apple for the lack of customization while many of the other forum members have been dodging the issue and instead of countering the criticism with a legit answer theres been accusation of me being a fandroid, troll, while others imply users like myself only care about specs, etc.

It really goes to show the degree to which some individuals have a grasp on technology and the ability to have a discussion about it.

 

[mnemonix]

Christ, the apple cult here is impossible to reason with.

You must be terminally stupid or something. There is no cult, but this has traditionally been a forum for people who choose Apple products. They've had the choice you constantly tout and chose Apple. It's hardly surprising they're not interested in anything you have to say about the product they rejected out of choice. I'm sure they're not statistically more stupid, or prone to cult like behaviour than anyone else, Android users included, they just didn't make the same choice you made and unsurprisingly, the reasons for that choice still stand. Deal with it.

 

[Tech198]

I thought of Apple people here more as a flock....

They all crowd in one place.. they move elsewhere.

 

[OtherJesus]

Customization in my eyes goes well beyond widgets, which I only have *one* of on my android phone (a big transparent clock using a helvetica type font). I dont care for widgets myself, but I would never enforce the limitation on others to not have them if they so chose to.... unlike apple.

I'm talking about lockscreens, notifications, transition animations, keyboards and sizes, contact shortcuts and what is available when pressed, etc. Its a lot of the little things that make the *whole* experience awesome to *MY* liking, not Steve Jobs or Apple's liking.

My buddy sent me a video of his jailbroken iPhone. It did all the stuff you're talking about, dancing icons, fancy unlock screen, custom fonts... All sorts of stuff. And I personally wasn't impressed. But he's really into that sort of thing.

Cool if you are. Android let's you do it right out of the box. I guess iPhone users have to jailbreak if that want that sort of effect.

Personally, and I recon I speak for a majority of users and average consumers really don't give a hoot about those gimmicks. I know gimmicks is sort of a diss... But that's what they are to me. I just want to unlock my phone and press the icon for what I want.

If I want fancy effects, I'll watch Star Wars

 

[wikus]

My buddy sent me a video of his jailbroken iPhone. It did all the stuff you're talking about, dancing icons, fancy unlock screen, custom fonts... All sorts of stuff. And I personally wasn't impressed. But he's really into that sort of thing.

Cool if you are. Android let's you do it right out of the box. I guess iPhone users have to jailbreak if that want that sort of effect.

Personally, and I recon I speak for a majority of users and average consumers really don't give a hoot about those gimmicks. I know gimmicks is sort of a diss... But that's what they are to me. I just want to unlock my phone and press the icon for what I want.

If I want fancy effects, I'll watch Star Wars

Look into MIUI ROM for Android. No gimmicks at all. All of the real benefits are under the hood, stuff you don't see and theres zero flash. I hate the gimmicky crap too.

 

[michelepri]

Look at the difference between Iphone 5 and Nokia Lumia 900... Tht's how Nokia is planning a comeback?