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I don't think the price difference between 5C 16GB and 5S 32GB will only be $100. The 5C has less storage, (presumably) older hardware and a cheaper plastic case.
If the 5C will be an iPhone 5 in a plastic casing, than this may very well be the case. It will give the 5S a good position compared to the 5C. Apple still wants to push their premium 5S.
 
Knowing the state of NAND flash storage capacities vs speeds, I would not order the 128GB option. At most, I'd stick at 64GB, given that single 64GB NAND chips have gotten faster reads/writes.

Is there anyone with a 128GB iPad 4 who noticed that the read/write times are significantly slower than their previous 64 or 32GB iPad?
 
Damage is all subjective.

Not really. Damage is an observable thing. You can count and measure scratches, dings, and dents. You can quantify the necessary pressure to twist or deform the chassis. If you want to talk about how much damage is acceptable, then yes, that is subjective.

However, I think my original statement stands. People just don't bother to take care of the things they own (i.e. are responsible for). That particular problem by itself is (arguably) no big deal, but going to someone else and complaining that the thing they own is the problem when they themselves are not taking proper care... this is a complete displacement of blame. Such a person complains to exonerate themselves by finding others who, afflicted with the same level of carelessness concerning the things they are responsible for, can empathize, commiserate, and collectively qualify their position. Such a group that collectively shares the same problem, especially in vast numbers, is magically capable of ignoring root cause while establishing artificial demands disguised as necessary improvements.

This is probably starting to sounds like democracy, which I don't think is a coincidence, but that's not my point. Rather, does anyone here truthfully think that Apple does not perform durability analysis? And, given that their superior hardware design is paramount to their business model, do you honestly think they're cutting corners? Why would they risk their brand name for something like that?

Moreover, why aren't people complaining about the aluminum chassis on their laptops? I'd posit that people are satisfied with their laptop chassis because they spend more money on that product and therefore perceive more value. As a result, they take care of the damn thing.
 
Not even in the US

I don't think this will fly in the US. After all, even though there are lots of rich people here, they won't be the kind to flaunt a gold cellphone. A gold watch, a gold bracelet, a gold necklace, or even golden shoes may make sense for us, but not a golden gadget.

The only place I can see this working is in the Middle East. They have so much money for the rich there that they can simply flaunt anything without a care.
 
This rendering someone did earlier in the thread (based on a parts leak) actually looks quite nice. The volume buttons part leak indicate a color similar to the color option you see with cars (my sister owns a champagne colored Lexus SUV), not some tack gold bling. Of course it's all speculation at this point. I guess in Kuo's mind if he throws enouh *** at the wall something will eventually stick.

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I agree this rendering looks good. I would consider it, though I think I'll still go with white. Every other iPhone I've had has been black.

Okay, I am curious, as I am in the market for a 128 GB iPhone (although not in gold, if this is the only option): Could real-life difference of the read/write speed really become a factor? In what form – longer to load music and videos before they start or something like that? Can't really imagine that, but as you people seem to know more about this topic than I do, I wanna ask just to be sure...

I'm curious about the same thing. I can't see it being a perceivable difference. Assuming prices stay as they are and 64 is 299 and 128 is 399, I'd be torn between the 2 but would probably go for the 128 as I am starting to do more and more music as lossless.
 
I've noticed a few people worrying about read / write speeds slowing as the capacity increases.

There's no need for concern about any noticeable problems with this technology.

The measurement of reads & writes to storage is called IOPS (Inputs Outputs Per Second).

For comparison purposes;

On a basic laptop SATA based hard disk, you are looking at about 80 IOPS, so a maximum combination of 80 read & write transactions every second in total.

With a faster 10K RPM speed hard disk you're talking about 140 IOPS and with 15K spin speed about 180 IOPS.

Flash storage for smartphones, however, has 1,500 IOPS + so it won't be a problem with today's usage patterns at least.
 
Not really. Damage is an observable thing. You can count and measure scratches, dings, and dents. You can quantify the necessary pressure to twist or deform the chassis. If you want to talk about how much damage is acceptable, then yes, that is subjective.

However, I think my original statement stands. People just don't bother to take care of the things they own (i.e. are responsible for). That particular problem by itself is (arguably) no big deal, but going to someone else and complaining that the thing they own is the problem when they themselves are not taking proper care... this is a complete displacement of blame. Such a person complains to exonerate themselves by finding others who, afflicted with the same level of carelessness concerning the things they are responsible for, can empathize, commiserate, and collectively qualify their position. Such a group that collectively shares the same problem, especially in vast numbers, is magically capable of ignoring root cause while establishing artificial demands disguised as necessary improvements.

This is probably starting to sounds like democracy, which I don't think is a coincidence, but that's not my point. Rather, does anyone here truthfully think that Apple does not perform durability analysis? And, given that their superior hardware design is paramount to their business model, do you honestly think they're cutting corners? Why would they risk their brand name for something like that?

Moreover, why aren't people complaining about the aluminum chassis on their laptops? I'd posit that people are satisfied with their laptop chassis because they spend more money on that product and therefore perceive more value. As a result, they take care of the damn thing.

I wasn't complaining, just pointing out that the thin anodized Al in a pocket is difficult to keep pristine. This isn't an issue of personal responsibility. I'm not arguing we storm into apple HQ and demand compensation.

The laptops hold up better be ause they don't fit in pockets and it seems to be a denser Al. My mbp looks pristine.

I think they perform durability tests like they do battery tests. Under ideal theoretical conditions. It isn't apples responsibility that my iphone looks nice after normal use, but I can still argue that there are more ideal materials than Al for a phone. It is a statement of fact that the new iphone is more prone to dings and scratches than the iphone 4 design. That's all. The world still goes on and I'm still generally very happy with my iphone.
 
I bought my iPhone 5 and opted for the 64 GB model, of which I've never used more than about 25 GB.

I bought my kid an iPad mini and I opted for the 32 GB model, and it's never been enough. I always seem to be shifting content around...

I have zero interest in a 128 GB iPhone, but I'd buy a 128 GB iPad mini in a heartbeat.
 
The base memory is meaningless as long as customers can buy what they want. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who buy the 16GB model.

Actually it's very meaningful as it's twice the storage at the same price.
 
Asia, garish? You really don't know anything. Pay a visit to Japan or China or Korea and you'll see. The 3 major colors there are red, black, and yellow(white in the case of Japan) Actually, Asians are less forthcoming when it comes to colors than Westerners. From their points of view, Americans look almost flamboyant. Besides, iOS 7's colors are way too bright to be called Asian. The colors there is usually more deep and solid, like iOS 6.


EDIT: unless you are talking about middle or west Asia then I'm clueless.:D

I've never been to China or Japan so I can't really tell but Korea is far from like that. Go out onto the street and you'll see people wearing various colors. In fact you could wear pink t-shirt and green shorts, and nobody will care. South east asians on the other hand are more selective when it comes to color.
source: I'm from asia.

back on topic, I actually think the new color is a nice addition. I wouldn't buy it. but I know a lot who will.
 
32 GB base model, please!

Yeah, exactly!

I don't care about 128GB, but I hope causes Apple to raise the entry-level to 32GB. Then again, capacity upgrades are a gold mine for Apple, so they'll resist this.
 
This will do.

once you add apple care to the price of a 5S that seems a little steep. Maybe they don't want you to get apple care. I am going to be very disappointed if there is not a 5S available for $199.

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I use to think that the iPhone needed more storage than 64gb...not anymore.
For music you can use iTunes Match.
Pictures and videos honestly should be uploaded off your phone regularly to you Mac anyways. I mean, why keep it on your phone...? Use photo stream for the important memories.
How many apps do you REALLY use...? Not 64gb worth I'm sure.

Great that they are up-ing the capacity, but honestly it's just a bit excessive.
Up the cloud storage space to 10gb instead.

Do you have kids? Do your kids have grandparents/great grandparents? If so, then you know that there is no way that you can ever take any pictures/videos off of your phone.
 
I can't believe people are actually biting on this. A gold or champagne or whatever you want to call it 5S? The chances of this happening are about the same as a 5S with a 4.7" display. Let's keep it real.

......and in terms of the poster that offered up a render. Nice job but that has to be the single fugliest color scheme I've ever seen. Ever.
 
Can someone explain why lots of people seem to ask for this? Surely it doesn't matter what the base model is - if the base model is 16GB you can still buy a 32GB if that's what you want/need? :

Because the assumption is that the base model price will stay the same as the current base model price regardless of the size of the base model. That is why.
 
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